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    500 plays +EV theory risking 100u

    -each play will be risk 0.2u each, regardless of wr% or payout
    -ending thread at 500 plays
    -will keep record wins-vs-losses, also units +/-
    -only value of 106% or higher considered (example below)
    -plays in nba, ncaab, nhl, mlb
    -start this 2/13
    example using lines from today(using model wr% from team rankings subscription)
    nhl
    az/44.7%wr+ the line(varies widely multiple factors ) +138 gives 106.38
    vegas/ 62%wr + the line -133(75%) = 108.5
    2 more examples for ncaab
    kansas/ 54.7%wr + line currently @ +150 =136.75
    southern u/73.4%wr + current line @ -180(56%) = 114.5
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    so in simple terms you have 4 plays today 2 in nhl and 2 in ncaa hoops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    so in simple terms you have 4 plays today 2 in nhl and 2 in ncaa hoops?
    Personally, I have 11 wagers today, including the above example games.. Not starting till 2/13 those are examples using today's lines to show perceived value.
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    Good Luck, veri. I'll be watching.

    At one time I ate this Coll Bask for lunch. Knew it inside and out. The game has passed me by.

    Honestly, I hate the 3-pt line. When I think of coll Bask, I think about teams working the ball to big-men to get the high % shot.

    Sorry, I'm just reminiscing. GL on your plays.

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    2/13
    ncaab
    Tennessee state/-2/-148

    nhl
    stl/+180
    lak/bff/O6/-115

    nba
    mia/mlw/O222/-106
    mnn/ptl/O214.5/-106
    5 plays for 1u risk(0.2u-each)

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    Is Tenn St a spread play? Or a Moneyline play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Is Tenn St a spread play? Or a Moneyline play?
    -2 is an alt line readily available, I think. Current ml is -177, posted ats is -4

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    example here again from today's posted plays on how the value is seen
    nba
    mia/mlw-Model prediction spits 233 for total. Current line is 222. So thats 11 points. Math comes out to a 55% of going over.
    wr%=55%+payout/-106(94%) =106.7

    nhl
    stl/ wr%39.7%+payout of @+180 =111.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    2/13
    ncaab
    Tennessee state/-2/-148

    nhl
    stl/+180
    lak/bff/O6/-115

    nba
    mia/mlw/O222/-106
    mnn/ptl/O214.5/-106
    5 plays for 1u risk(0.2u-each)

    2-3/ -0.23u / tp count=5

    2/14-all money lines
    cbb
    xavier/+125
    iupui/+190
    n Kentucky/+150
    ga tech/+150
    s Illinois/+140
    saint joseph's/+150
    fresno state//+175
    s carolina/auburn/O137.5/-110
    ---nba
    nyn/+140
    mia/+150
    lal/+185
    nyn/orl/O211.5/-110
    ---nhl
    az/+108
    13 plays risk 2.6u (0.2u-each)

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    5-8/ -0.27u / tp count=18
    ytd/ 7-11/ -0.50u

    2/15
    --cbb
    tarleton state/+185
    utah/+115
    w ill/tnn tech/O126.5/-110
    --nba
    mnn/ptl/O214/-110
    --nhl
    bff/+137
    stl/+170
    *alt line* phi/tor/O5.5/-138
    7 plays risk 1.4u (0.2u-each)
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    4-3/ +0.43u / tp count=25
    ytd/ 11-14/ -0.07u


    2/16
    --cbb
    vcu/-185
    1 play risk 0.2u
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    1-0/ +0.11/ tp count=26
    ytd/ 12-14/ +0.04

    --cbb
    *alt line* vermont/2.5/-137
    *alt line* ga state/-2.5/+121
    albany/umbc/U176/-110

    --nhl
    *alt line* bff/mnn/O5.5/-150
    *alt line* phi/nj/O5.5/-142
    5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)

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    4-1/ +0.51/ tp count=31
    ytd/ 16-15/ +0.55u

    maybe Monday for plays

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    Nice thread VO. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    Nice thread VO. Keep up the good work.
    Will certainly try. After a 100 or so, hatches will be battened down and in comes bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    4-1/ +0.51/ tp count=31
    ytd/ 16-15/ +0.55u

    maybe Monday for plays

    2/19
    --cbb
    va/+145
    Nicholls state/-125
    incarnate word/-135

    --nhl
    stl/+140
    det/+124
    5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)

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    Good Pitino clip:

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ck-pitino-says

    Rips into his team. Interesting point he made about consistently being on the short-end of FT attempts.

    Wonder how many people saw this coming. They did lose an Exhibition game to Div II Pace.
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    2-3/ -0.19u/ tp count=36
    ytd/ 18-18/ +0.36u

    2/20
    --nhl
    wsh/+145
    vnc/+130

    --cbb
    *alt line* e michigan/-1.5/+121
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    2-3/ -0.19u/ tp count=36
    ytd/ 18-18/ +0.36u

    2/20
    --nhl
    wsh/+145
    vnc/+130

    --cbb
    *alt line* e michigan/-1.5/+121
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
    GL, veri. One comment. I see that you play the Alt-line on lines close to zero.

    This is something we used to debate on the old message boards. Bask bets obviously include the OT scores.

    Game can never land on zero, so -1 to +1 looks like a 2-pt swing but there's no landing spot in the middle. +1.5 always felt like a tough bet, since you have to win outright or land exactly 1. +1 never felt good b/c you only push a 1-pt loss.

    And so many Free Throws involved in the end-game. Man, if we could only be on the right side of the close ones. We'd be much richer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    GL, veri. One comment. I see that you play the Alt-line on lines close to zero.

    This is something we used to debate on the old message boards. Bask bets obviously include the OT scores.

    Game can never land on zero, so -1 to +1 looks like a 2-pt swing but there's no landing spot in the middle. +1.5 always felt like a tough bet, since you have to win outright or land exactly 1. +1 never felt good b/c you only push a 1-pt loss.

    And so many Free Throws involved in the end-game. Man, if we could only be on the right side of the close ones. We'd be much richer.
    It's simple most games, ''not all'' tend to fly past the number. Total or a side doesn't matter. A single point yields 11%+ more on the payout (personally I'd rather get a +ev on payout, rather than getting less than 1 back for 1 bet) Nhl I want a win on the lay# instead of a push. As far as BTCL that's a complicated prospect, also again this fella has no interest in the time, and dedication needed.

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    1-2/ -0.11u/ tp count=39
    ytd/ 19-20/ +0.25u

    2/21
    --cbb
    s. fl/-220
    georgia/-110
    ole miss/+7.5/-110
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)
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    2-1/ +0.07 / tp count=42
    ytd/ 21-21/ +0.32u

    2/22
    --cbb
    le moyne/-140
    texas state/+135
    *alt line* siu edwardsville/-2/-130
    washington state/+12.5/-110
    *alt line* oregon/-2/+122

    --nhl
    mnt/+198
    wsh/+172
    stl/+102
    nsh/+140
    *alt line* fl-car/O5.5/-139
    *alt line* tor-vg/O5.5/-148

    --nba
    orl-clv/O216.5/-110
    12 plays risk 2.4u (0.2u-each)
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    GL, veri.

    I have to even think about Le Moyne. Think that's a newly lined team. So many teams for the oddsmaker to line.

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    7-5/ +0.66u / tp count=54
    ytd/ 28-26/ +0.98u


    2/23
    --cbb
    Columbia/-155
    1 play risk 0.2u

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    0-1/ -0.2u/ tp count=55
    ytd/ 28-27/ +0.78u

    2/24
    --cbb
    unc asheville/-200
    duke/+125
    unc greensboro/-195
    oregon/-130
    w kentucky/-165
    weber state/-145
    Georgetown/-180

    --nba
    bkl-mnn/O216.5/-110

    --nhl
    *alt line* dll-car/O5.5/-148
    9 plays risk 1.8u (0.2u-each)

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    1-8/ -1.49u / tp count=64
    ytd/ 29-35/ -0.71u

    2/25
    --cbb
    *alt line* quinnipiac/-2.5/+123
    *alt line* cleveland state/-4/+126
    --nba
    dll/ind/U254/-110
    cha/ptl/O213/-110
    --nhl
    *alt line* car/bff/O5.5/-144
    5 plays risk 1u (0.2u-each)

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    L a m e

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    -each play will be risk 0.2u each, regardless of wr% or payout
    -ending thread at 500 plays
    -will keep record wins-vs-losses, also units +/-
    -only value of 106% or higher considered (example below)
    -plays in nba, ncaab, nhl, mlb
    -start this 2/13
    example using lines from today(using model wr% from team rankings subscription)
    nhl
    az/44.7%wr+ the line(varies widely multiple factors ) +138 gives 106.38
    vegas/ 62%wr + the line -133(75%) = 108.5
    2 more examples for ncaab
    kansas/ 54.7%wr + line currently @ +150 =136.75
    southern u/73.4%wr + current line @ -180(56%) = 114.5
    Pardon my ignorance, but what does wr mean?

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    1-4/ -0.62u/ tp count=69
    ytd/ 30-39/ -1.33u

    2/26
    --nhl
    dll/-160
    --nba
    *alt line* mem/-1/+122
    mia/+7.5/-110
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkwind View Post
    L a m e

    I have had a terrible last 3 days agree. This a trial run, not even 100 wagers in. What could one expect??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, but what does wr mean?
    win rate % based on model #'s. Any other questions? Below I will include todays hockey line for examples.
    dallas/ projected win %= 65 + the payot(-160/63%) that equals 106.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veriableodds View Post
    1-4/ -0.62u/ tp count=69
    ytd/ 30-39/ -1.33u

    2/26
    --nhl
    dll/-160
    --nba
    *alt line* mem/-1/+122
    mia/+7.5/-110
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)

    1-2/ -0.22/ tp count=72
    ytd/ 31-41/ -1.55u

    2/27
    --cbb
    cincy/houston/O133/-110
    --nba
    bkl/orl/O213.5/-110
    --nhl
    clg/+100
    3 plays risk 0.6u (0.2u-each)

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    1-2/ -0.20u/ tp count=75
    ytd/ 32-43/ -1.75u

    2/28**going completely unbiased, running the gauntlet. Anything showing +ev of 106 or higher. This is payout strategy, does not mean the team getting or covering the points has value. All lines are -110 except radford.**
    --nba
    no/+6
    tor/+3
    mem/+12
    chi/+5
    sac/+7.5
    --cbb
    boston u/+6.5
    rhode island/+12.5
    old dominion/+14.5
    w carolina/-2
    tulane/+2
    marshall/+2
    northwestern/+5.5
    providence/+10.5
    auburn/+7
    iupui/+13
    holy cross/+13.5
    radford/ml/-160
    winthrop/+8
    coastal carolina/+9.5
    belmont/+3
    wichita state/+8
    tulsa/+2
    uic/+9
    missouri state/+4.5
    oklahoma/+9.5
    bellarmine/+11.5
    ole miss/+6
    az st/+12
    depaul/xav/U156.5
    29 plays risk 5.8u (0.2u-each)
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    Whoa Nelly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    Whoa Nelly!
    Looking forward to throwing more money at this crazy project...lol

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