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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    if you as a bookie went to billy walters said he could only bet favorites,

    I'm almost certain he would have no issue with that
    Nothing wrong with taking favorites if you are referring to the spread. Taking favorites on chalk ml no thanks.

    You give more to get less back and need to win at a high rate.
    I'm happy taking dogs and winning 45% and still doing okay.

    JV biggest problem is that he doesn't take the spreads he tries to be a hero.

    Ml sports are baseball and hockey not basketball and football. I would think he would know that by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Nothing wrong with taking favorites if you are referring to the spread. Taking favorites on chalk ml no thanks.

    You give more to get less back and need to win at a high rate.
    I'm happy taking dogs and winning 45% and still doing okay.

    JV biggest problem is that he doesn't take the spreads he tries to be a hero.

    Ml sports are baseball and hockey not basketball and football. I would think he would know that by now.
    yeah totally agree

    i've found over the years that i'm best at football. i don't know why, maybe because i love the sport the most. i never really played it

    once a dog or fav gets over about 500 (+500 or -500) you're almost ALWAYS better taking the points. I know Steve Fezzik goes on about his Purdue -10000 play in the ncaa basketball tourney how it's smart, but it's not. because you can't tell me -10000 and +4000 works mathematically, which is what they do. that's 60x hole for the book as juice. for live you almost always want to take points unless it's under +300/-300, live they juice the hell out of it

    ok enough technical...

    yeah gotta know your sport. a lot of wasted cash i have on sports i was never good at. strangely though as i've gotten better at football i'm more able to pick out the other sports

    great post
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    you can be a hero but look at what you give up, not what you get

    so many bettors, including on radio, say PLUS MONEY! which seems great...except when you're talking about betting $250 and getting either $490 or $550 back, who cares really. you've GOT to consider what you might give up

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    @budwiser, sounds like you are up for the football season. How much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    @budwiser, sounds like you are up for the football season. How much?
    i don't track it like a ledger. but if you count the years i lost i'm still in the hole for sure

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    one more thing, yeah favorites as chalk -200 or over i never do. i'll take dog ml

    obviously these high mls are used in parlays

    i've lost a lot of -180s learned it's just stupid. take the spread

    great example the chargers spread. -3.5 or -185. low-scoring game. i'd love to take the ml, it was too high. for a normal game it's fine. but i told myself there is no f ing way herbert vs wilson that the chargers don't smoke the jets. bosa is playing, they got guys on that team that can eat wilson for lunch. jets overall have the better team, but we're talking about the most underrated qb in the league herbert vs probably the most overrated at the time (wilson), it's not even remotely close. it was much more competitive than i expected, thought it was a blowout. got lucky on turnovers, cashed. ended up with a lot more than i get if it's -185.

    we have a different story on Sunday coming up, got my eye on a game

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    probably talking too much, but i don't take a game unless i think they win by 7+ over the spread. so if i end up losing, unless it's real unlucky (which happens), it's my fault, and i learn what i did wrong.

    if you learn what you did wrong, you'll succeed. that's the only way anyone will succeed in this, in my opinion.

    i wish i could go back and skip all this shot, what am i going to to do with this info when i'm dead. should have just gotten laid all this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    i don't track it like a ledger. but if you count the years i lost i'm still in the hole for sure
    I was just curious if you are up a lot this year and if you are then I would start tailing you picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    I was just curious if you are up a lot this year and if you are then I would start tailing you picks.
    well i don't put many picks up here, so it's not worth your time

    the vast majority i'm out in the field

    best you learn yourself, don't depend on any one person. i used to do that, learned the hard way. especially when i first started. looks like you're experienced, so you certainly know better.

    on my twitter account i already got followers who are tracking my record, so we'll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    well i don't put many picks up here, so it's not worth your time

    the vast majority i'm out in the field

    best you learn yourself, don't depend on any one person. i used to do that, learned the hard way. especially when i first started. looks like you're experienced, so you certainly know better.

    on my twitter account i already got followers who are tracking my record, so we'll see
    I don't tail anyone's picks here blindly; except fading JV's.

    If I see someone winning consistently, then it's worth to start tailing and see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    I don't tail anyone's picks here blindly; except fading JV's.

    If I see someone winning consistently, then it's worth to start tailing and see how it goes.
    well i would tail what i pick this year...i'm hotter than a 23-year-old angelina jolie sucking on candy.

    but...no guarantees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    well i would tail what i pick this year...i'm hotter than a 23-year-old angelina jolie sucking on candy.

    but...no guarantees.
    Then, please start a thread with all your picks. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    Then, please start a thread with all your picks. Thanks in advance.
    i will never do that. i don't do threads with hundreds of posts.

    as said i don't work that way. i work it my way. and i don't need anyone to know or tail or anything, there's only one way you know if you're up or down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    on my twitter account i already got followers who are tracking my record, so we'll see
    Then, what's your twitter handle so I can follow that at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    i will never do that. i don't do threads with hundreds of posts.

    as said i don't work that way. i work it my way. and i don't need anyone to know or tail or anything, there's only one way you know if you're up or down.

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    @BudWiserSports but I don't do much there either.

    Put up the chargers pick but before that, october 21 mlb.

    i only post when the pick is in and i got time

    so you won't get much, but sure follow if u or anyone wants all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    all good though a bout with diarrhea might be better

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    if you see who i follow on twitter that helps too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    Wait a minute, Mikey! But you did the exact opposite and bet the Jets, yes? Isn't that your new modus operandi?
    That was just a pay back thread for all those haters and jealous people.

    One time shot.

    Anybody who knows me know Chargers over Jets was my play.
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    I remember this guy on the radio telling me he's taking the Jets, that the Chargers are not a good road team, they're 1-2

    Not only is that a small sample size, but everyone should know if they talk about the NFL the Chargers have no home field advantage

    that was a tell. do i want to be on the same side as this idiot, probably not. not worth betting on, but if you listen to enough tells it can help. just one factor in many

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    i was watching dobbs evade nfl pass rushers for a td in atlanta, evading professional pass rushers built to take him down, and said to myself i love watching this shot. ridiculously athletic

    i think you gotta love what you're watching to be good at it. cause like i said i never played football, other than flag football and pickup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    i was watching dobbs evade nfl pass rushers for a td in atlanta, evading professional pass rushers built to take him down, and said to myself i love watching this shot. ridiculously athletic

    i think you gotta love what you're watching to be good at it. cause like i said i never played football, other than flag football and pickup.
    Flag football was cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Flag football was cool
    it was, and i was too light, skinny. couldn't continue. just push my ass around

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