1. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by booker777 View Post
    To Be honest. I am not sure how the old owners ever made money with the model they offered. It was just too good to be true for us, imo. I hate the changes too but we should just be grateful for what we had because you can't expect a business to give away the farm like they did.
    just guessing, but i think the offshore books paid well to have a good rating the american books don't pay as well or at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by booker777 View Post
    To Be honest. I am not sure how the old owners ever made money with the model they offered. It was just too good to be true for us, imo. I hate the changes too but we should just be grateful for what we had because you can't expect a business to give away the farm like they did.
    Do you have any idea how much they made off affiliate links. With all the terrible gamblers here they made a fortune.

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    Bettercollective is a publicly listed company that owns a bunch of websites like vegasinsider.com , speltips.se , wettbasis.com and other similar sites around the world. Their income comes solely from affiliates and they have a market cap of roughly 1 billion dollars.

    There is a lot of money in affiliate links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I don't think LT got the memo yet that the points are worthless. I like when they told us for 9 months that the store will open and it will be better than ever. It went so good I actually missed the 3 day period to place an order. It was like the new Playstation comes out people were sleeping outside the store for a week to buy the 5 Playstations that the store received.

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    Very disappointing , they really handled this bad .

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Sorry late to the game gents and please pardon my ignorance.We ever gonna have anything to purchase in the store again? Dont really want to go pro again unless the store has stuff.
    Please read post #1 in the thread Beefcake. They already do have value and will have more value in multiple ways.

    And why would you give up the chance to renew for 1500 points as opposed to letting those points expire as a non-pro and lose them, and the chance to enter cash contests like the World Cup contest currently running or the Bowl contest next month?

    But go ahead and cut off your nose to spite your face if it makes you feel any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Andy View Post
    Attention SBR Members,


    We would like to address the questions surrounding the SBR Store and its plan going forward. Our initial goal in September was to offer a limited re-opening of the store for football season to give members a chance to redeem some of their betpoints. After reassessing, we feel that approach does not provide fair opportunity to the community as a whole, nor does it fit our long-term vision for a loyalty program.


    The original Store and Pro membership programs were tied to SBRís previous focus on the offshore sportsbook market. As we adapt and shift our brand focus to the regulated sportsbook industry, our community initiatives will evolve as well. With that in mind, we have made the decision that the Store will not re-open. We understand this news will cause some concern; however, we can assure members that betpoints will remain part of the SBR community. We are in the process of reshaping the loyalty program to better fit the product vision of the North American legalized market.


    What will that look like? More details to come. But the main theme is connecting members to the best sports betting options and rewarding regular contributions to the SBR community with exclusive benefits.


    We will touch on a few questions that members will likely have:


    What value does my betpoint balance have?


    - The betpoints you have earned will not go away. While points will not be redeemable for store items, they will gain access to unique rewards in the new loyalty program. Members with higher point balances will have more perks available to them.

    - In addition, we will be introducing 3 more cash contests to the existing Beat The Bullseye football contest:

    1. FIFA World Cup

    2. NCAAF Bowl Games

    3. NFL Playoffs

    - Contests will be open to Pro members only


    Will you get back to holding regular contests on SBR?


    - Oh yes. This news will come as a big relief to both our members and dev team. We are nearing a move onto a new contest platform and away from the legacy platform. We will finally be able to kiss the errors, missing games and incorrect lines goodbye once and for all.

    - The new platform will give us the flexibility to run daily, weekly, and season long contests across all major leagues with a variety of betting options (props included!). All with automated grading, leaderboards, and betpoint integration.


    How will SBR Pro membership work with the new loyalty program?


    - Pro membership will remain. However, we are working on expanding into a tiered system based on betpoint balance which will unlock different perks, for example: SBR swag, entry into exclusive cash contests, free plays at partner sportsbooks, and chances to win sports betting themed trips.

    - We are looking at additional ways to gain pro membership and move up tiers, such as depositing at sportsbook partners, winning marquee contests & becoming a trusted community member.


    How will members be able to earn betpoints going forward?


    - Daily activity will continue to earn points and there will be regular contests with points and prizes up for grabs

    - Quality forum content will be rewarded. We want the community to be a place that welcomes sports bettors both old and new. Posting a quality pick thread, lending a hand to a new member, reporting a site issue will earn betpoints.

    - Furthermore, we want our members to be the voice of SBR and help power our trusted sportsbook reviews. That means incorporating meaningful feedback on your experiences with partner sportsbooks to help shape the grades and rankings. These contributions will be recognized and rewarded as well.


    Moving away from the traditional SBR Store was not an easy decision to make Ė we realize what a big part of the community it has been for several years. Much like the re-branding you have seen across the website, the original betpoint system needs an update to align with the legalized betting landscape. We are confident that the revamped SBR loyalty program will be a benchmark in the industry and worth the wait.


    Please understand the full details of the new program have not been finalized, but we will do our best to answer any questions you may have.
    You can word salad all you want, but this sure reads like you bought a business and it's liabilities that you knew about and decided not to pay those liabilities or transformed them into something else of much lesser value you would be willing to pay. I don't really want trips, or free plays with rollovers at books I don't want to play at. I'd like to receive for my points what was available at the time they were risked and we didn't know the site was changing hands. You wouldn't like it if you bet a black $100 chip on a hand of blackjack and then get an oversized teddy bear when you win, would you?

    It's a pretty scumbag thing to do, first by the previous owner John or whatever who knew this would probably happen, and you new guys who are making it happen, all the while and to my understanding running successful, moneymaking websites elsewhere. It's not a new thing on these gambling forums, the shadiness and the scamming by management, but my points were worth about 6k in bitcoin before you lot came to town so excuse me if I'm a little more concerned than those with 500 betpoint balances gleefully imagining new ways for them to get paid while larger balances get screwed.

    Here's an idea. How about paying what's owed in bitcoin and giftcards first, THEN change to your new system to see if posters like it? Is it really that much compared to what you bought the business for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by booker777 View Post
    To Be honest. I am not sure how the old owners ever made money with the model they offered. It was just too good to be true for us, imo. I hate the changes too but we should just be grateful for what we had because you can't expect a business to give away the farm like they did.
    Says the guy with a 408 betpoints balance

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    Pizza Pizza

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly
    Here's an idea. How about paying what's owed in bitcoin and giftcards first, THEN change to your new system to see if posters like it? Is it really that much compared to what you bought the business for?
    They are NOT gonna do that, don't you see from the 'salad' they're just trying to bury any value betpoints might have had into the ground, so they never have to pay out a dime for hundreds of thousands of them that people have managed to accumulate? These points are supposed to be reward points. That you can exchange for something useful... Entry ticket to some contest is not a reward! It's gambling. Gambling already occurred to win the points, yeah if you keep gambling and gambling... we know the final outcome. No thanks.

    Here's an idea. Everybody boycott going/renewing Pro until betpoint value is restored to pre-ownership change levels!

    Amen.

    Last edited by Pinocchio; 11-24-22 at 11:20 PM.

  11. #186
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    Yea right now itís all talk.

  12. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    They are NOT gonna do that, don't you see from the 'salad' they're just trying to bury any value betpoints might have had into the ground, so they never have to pay out a dime for hundreds of thousands of them that people have managed to accumulate? These points are supposed to be reward points. That you can exchange for something useful... Entry ticket to some contest is not a reward! It's gambling. Gambling already occurred to win the points, yeah if you keep gambling and gambling... we know the final outcome. No thanks.

    Here's an idea. Everybody boycott going/renewing Pro until betpoint value is restored to pre-ownership change levels!

    Amen.

    I blame that John character as much if not more than new ownership. Not like he went bust and a good samaritan company came in to rescue clients. He went off and started his own new forum, and gave no one a clue he was about to skip town because he knew posters would want to cash in the points. Was there not a no compete clause in the purchase? WTF. I suspect current and former employees were left unpaid as well. Oh wait, JJGold knew and had his bitcoin order honored I think.

    Also, this paragraph is so sick you just have to laugh:

    We would like to address the questions surrounding the SBR Store and its plan going forward. Our initial goal in September was to offer a limited re-opening of the store for football season to give members a chance to redeem some of their betpoints. After reassessing, we feel that approach does not provide fair opportunity to the community as a whole, nor does it fit our long-term vision for a loyalty program.

  13. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    You can word salad all you want, but this sure reads like you bought a business and it's liabilities that you knew about and decided not to pay those liabilities or transformed them into something else of much lesser value you would be willing to pay. I don't really want trips, or free plays with rollovers at books I don't want to play at. I'd like to receive for my points what was available at the time they were risked and we didn't know the site was changing hands. You wouldn't like it if you bet a black $100 chip on a hand of blackjack and then get an oversized teddy bear when you win, would you?

    It's a pretty scumbag thing to do, first by the previous owner John or whatever who knew this would probably happen, and you new guys who are making it happen, all the while and to my understanding running successful, moneymaking websites elsewhere. It's not a new thing on these gambling forums, the shadiness and the scamming by management, but my points were worth about 6k in bitcoin before you lot came to town so excuse me if I'm a little more concerned than those with 500 betpoint balances gleefully imagining new ways for them to get paid while larger balances get screwed.

    Here's an idea. How about paying what's owed in bitcoin and giftcards first, THEN change to your new system to see if posters like it? Is it really that much compared to what you bought the business for?
    It totally sucks for a consumer or user when a new business owner comes in. You really don't know what to expect... high percentages show it's never close to the original owner. It may start out "similar" as the original owner but as months go by... the new owner runs their system... and what they believe is right.

    Where do you point the finger? If John blabs that he's selling... the value of the sale decreases rapidly. Value could drop as high as 70%. We all knew something was happening during the last 6 months before the sale... it was rather quiet and dull here. Not saying it's any better now.. A lot of posters GOT THE SHAFT.

    Saying that betpoints "value" would be relatively the same... and/or redemption would be the same... well... that was a brain fart by the new owner. Should we put strike 1 or strike 2 on him now?

    I remember purchasing my 2nd tanning salon and the deal went absolutely terrible. The old owner sabotaged the database... I had no idea who had "active" packages already paid for... and who didn't. Reason why the previous owner did this... was purely out of spite. She wanted to sell... I offered a price... and she accepted. The day of the transition... I powered the computer up and the database was corrupted. Yes, it went to court... and the jury concluded it was a no win decision. No proof that "she" actually did it. Point of this quick story... for 3-4 months I practically allowed 50% of the population TO TAN FOR FREE. I had to keep the peace and popularity of the tanning salon. Sure, word got out that I was cornered... and just come in their and say you paid for a package... the owner will allow you to tan for free... I couldn't allow the people to JUST LEAVE... they were ALREADY HERE. I figured a good gesture would keep everyone happy. And it did. Sure... it wasn't a part of the initial business equation. But things pop up when you least expect it.

    Hopefully the new owner will think this through.... and keep everyone happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    They are NOT gonna do that, don't you see from the 'salad' they're just trying to bury any value betpoints might have had into the ground, so they never have to pay out a dime for hundreds of thousands of them that people have managed to accumulate? These points are supposed to be reward points. That you can exchange for something useful... Entry ticket to some contest is not a reward! It's gambling. Gambling already occurred to win the points, yeah if you keep gambling and gambling... we know the final outcome. No thanks.

    Here's an idea. Everybody boycott going/renewing Pro until betpoint value is restored to pre-ownership change levels!

    Amen.

    I totally agree

  15. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    They are NOT gonna do that, don't you see from the 'salad' they're just trying to bury any value betpoints might have had into the ground, so they never have to pay out a dime for hundreds of thousands of them that people have managed to accumulate? These points are supposed to be reward points. That you can exchange for something useful... Entry ticket to some contest is not a reward! It's gambling. Gambling already occurred to win the points, yeah if you keep gambling and gambling... we know the final outcome. No thanks.

    Here's an idea. Everybody boycott going/renewing Pro until betpoint value is restored to pre-ownership change levels!

    Amen.

    makes no sense, would just make it easier for the contest pros to win stuff

  16. #191
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    we don't mind being taken advantage of just no more big announcements please
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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    we don't mind being taken advantage of just no more big announcements please
    lol

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    if you are going to fcuk me at least buy me a whopper first

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    if you are going to fcuk me at least buy me a whopper first
    shiiit at this point i will take a white castle burger.
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    Everything good comes to an end. This is THE END, we spent over a year trying to hold on but it’s time to move on, it was fun while it lasted but there are zero reasons to be here now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PD77 View Post
    Everything good comes to an end. This is THE END, we spent over a year trying to hold on but itís time to move on, it was fun while it lasted but there are zero reasons to be here now.
    I think most of the old posters moved to the new site. Whoever bought this site is not going to pay for the old owner's mistakes. They bought a lemon and now they are trying to make lemonade with it for the remaining 5 posters still posting here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I think most of the old posters moved to the new site. Whoever bought this site is not going to pay for the old owner's mistakes. They bought a lemon and now they are trying to make lemonade with it for the remaining 5 posters still posting here.
    where is new site?

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    The New site actually exists.?

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    I know points are worthless, so why does it take 24 hours to grade a bet after 5pm Eastern time? I mean, being a website company, do you not know how to write code?

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    Can someone please donate....


    I'm stuck on negative
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    Quote Originally Posted by cala56 View Post
    The New site actually exists.?
    Yes it's been around for a while. I believe Johnny W had a plan and laid the groundwork a few years in advance. They set up the PRO program like the old one before donating to charity was a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Yes it's been around for a while. I believe Johnny W had a plan and laid the groundwork a few years in advance. They set up the PRO program like the old one before donating to charity was a thing.
    whats the name of the site

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    When you hit a +480 free bet

    5026495
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    SOC
    STRAIGHT BET (FP)
    [37097] MOROCCO +480

    0.00 / 681.60

    681.60
    WIN
    WIN
    11/27/2022 04:51 AM

    But you're not happy at all, since the points are worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacher10 View Post
    Can someone please donate....


    I'm stuck on negative
    u guys are silly, negative balances can be fixed by mods, stop betting free plays on games that can push a push is a loss on free plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacher10 View Post
    Can someone please donate....


    I'm stuck on negative
    I will request a reset for you.

    Try to avoid push lines when using freeplay points to stop it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    shiiit at this point i will take a white castle burger.
    good point. those are damn good when you are hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex_icon View Post
    When you hit a +480 free bet

    5026495
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    SOC
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    [37097] MOROCCO +480

    0.00 / 681.60

    681.60
    WIN
    WIN
    11/27/2022 04:51 AM

    But you're not happy at all, since the points are worthless.
    it is like getting a hit on a dating site and she talks dirty but then you look at the girl and realize she is your ex

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    good point. those are damn good when you are DRUNK.
    fixed it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    it is like getting a hit on a dating site and she talks dirty but then you look at the girl and realize she is your ex

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    Thank you Manny and everyone else for the points.

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