1. 10-31-22 04:27 PM #1
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    SBR Consensus

    I know there have been a million threads on this, but given the change in ownership I feel like we should revive it. Do the betting consensus numbers come from:
    a - a US Book
    b - the Covers contest picks
    C- somewhere else like offshore or sportradar
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  2. 10-31-22 04:35 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    I know there have been a million threads on this, but given the change in ownership I feel like we should revive it. Do the betting consensus numbers come from:
    a - a US Book
    b - the Covers contest picks
    C- somewhere else like offshore or sportradar
    THANKS
    Old SBR management was just as cagey about revealing data sources as the new ones are. I guess it's considered commercially valuable info.

    The most I have seen said publicly, so I feel comfortable to repeat it, is that we use data from several books plus a couple of services. I've seen Don Best and Pinny mentioned.
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  3. 10-31-22 06:58 PM #3
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    Thanks Opti. I would be interested in seeing the dollar volume from the sources utilized if possible. I know that was a feature in the past for NFL. You would think with the US facing books being publicly traded companies that there would be more transparency from an investor risk perspective.
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  4. 10-31-22 07:56 PM #4
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    I just do not see how we can use information we cannot verify. Why would sports books allow us information that has any value?
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  5. 10-31-22 07:59 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    I just do not see how we can use information we cannot verify. Why would sports books allow us information that has any value?
    You can verify it's value by tracking the consensus vs w/l ATS but you're right, the info by itself is pretty useless.
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  6. 10-31-22 09:07 PM #6
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    Yes, we are going to want to know is it based on $'s for the consensus and what kind of volume? If it is a per head basis then the sharpness of the clientele would be nice but it is like you say we would have to track it in order to fade or follow.

    Not sure if you play at a world gaming site. They put up a consensus on each game. For example: in the NBA tonight they have Houston +8 1/2 at 90%. It was +9 earlier so I do not know how much of the consensus was at each. The over 225 1/2 is at 94%.

    The money line showed 60% a half hour ago on Houston and now it is 24%. So, does that mean some players are hitting the 390 favorite Clippers or was it a really small sample size on the money line.

    One thing for sure is if a player never tries to find anything he will never find anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Old SBR management was just as cagey about revealing data sources as the new ones are. I guess it's considered commercially valuable info.

    The most I have seen said publicly, so I feel comfortable to repeat it, is that we use data from several books plus a couple of services. I've seen Don Best and Pinny mentioned.
    Honestly its because that data is manipulated. Books dont just hand out that information without a purpose. When they use to hand that out early on 7-10 years ago they would get buried on certain games. Just like most things books adjust after you hit them hard enough and then if you dont adjust they give you the "consensus data" they want to give you and put you in the grave and laugh while they collect your money.
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  8. 10-31-22 10:26 PM #8
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    Jake - I never check SBR Consensus anymore... I think it's highly inaccurate. Doesn't match up in any way, shape, or form... with other sites. It's pure garbage.

    I've also seen it change drastically 30 minutes after a game has started. Where one side was dominated 65% of the time.... all of a sudden the "other side" is now at 67% it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE.
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  9. 10-31-22 10:37 PM #9
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    Want a consensus report just ask ten of your buddies at work
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    i do not trust any consensus reports anymore. too much manipulation to get people to bet a certain way.
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    They are not accurate anywhwere
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  12. 11-01-22 08:27 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Want a consensus report just ask ten of your buddies at work
    Lol so true

    I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Lol so true

    I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade

    Gauco Loco, who would win in a statistics knowledge bet? You or Justin7, the line is out

    Justin7 -750
    Ese Loco +1350

    I am wagering on you Ese Loco!
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    Lol bro I have never taken a stats class.
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  15. 11-01-22 09:41 AM #15
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    I don't use that stuff anymore. I've adjusted to the the new world order. I might even get the bivalent vaccine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I don't use that stuff anymore. I've adjusted to the the new world order. I might even get the bivalent vaccine.
    I remember when i first joined and you told me DO NOT EVER GO BY SBR CONSESUS! GL today bro
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  17. 11-01-22 10:13 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Lol so true

    I have a buddy who is so square I just call him on the big games and find out who he likes and then fade


    Jake, Stop calling me then.
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  18. 11-01-22 10:15 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    They are not accurate anywhwere
    JJ is right.
    I have yet to find any that appear to be representative of the actual market. Nothing at one site matches another. The built in delays the sites have in updating the information makes it useless anyway.
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