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    Normalization of gambling with commercials

    Anyone noticed a huge increase in gambling and sports betting commercials on TV?

    In a few years, a quarter of the population will have a gambling problem and be in debt.

    All my friends have started gambling, not good at all. I already see the signs of addiction. It is like a disease and the media is feeding it to us.
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    I don't see problem with it, individuals have to take responsibility for themselves for their own choices regardless of outside influences.

    Look at drugs, doesn't need any adds or encouragement and business still booming - bottom line is that each persons bad choices are no one else fault but their own.

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    It’s sad

    I laugh at guys that think they can win

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    Need the losers to help support the winners. OK by me.

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    I've watched some European docs about gambling and it is pretty shocking how many gambling joints they have. They are like payday lenders on every corner. It is definitely going to be a net negative on society. Gambling is a dirty business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuesday View Post
    I don't see problem with it, individuals have to take responsibility for themselves for their own choices regardless of outside influences.

    Look at drugs, doesn't need any adds or encouragement and business still booming - bottom line is that each persons bad choices are no one else fault but their own.
    Yes, but imagine a commercial asking you to try cocaine or crack?

    That is basically what this is, leads down a similar path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGilmore18 View Post
    Yes, but imagine a commercial asking you to try cocaine or crack?

    That is basically what this is, leads down a similar path.
    You're projecting, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGilmore18 View Post
    Yes, but imagine a commercial asking you to try cocaine or crack?

    That is basically what this is, leads down a similar path.
    Nah, more pressure from people asking me to try it than commercials, easy to ignore commercials instead of drunken friends wanting people to get high with them.

    I know what you mean that commercials look bad, but the alternative is worse - which is prohibition, and that never eliminated anything, well except that it eliminated the governments ability to make money off it.

    I just think people will do whatever they want anyways, not needing any encouragement from anyone or any commercials, whether it legal or not - they'll find way to do it, look at murder it's illegal and as common as ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    I've watched some European docs about gambling and it is pretty shocking how many gambling joints they have. They are like payday lenders on every corner. It is definitely going to be a net negative on society. Gambling is a dirty business.
    I don't see anything wrong with books on every corner or payday loans on every corner or liquor stores or convenience stores etc, it all business can't say any is more dirty than next.

    Any business can be done with it without class, restaurants/sports/hookers/drugs/lending/etc, all of it - just like some hotels are sleazy and some hotels classy, it all business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    I've watched some European docs about gambling and it is pretty shocking how many gambling joints they have. They are like payday lenders on every corner. It is definitely going to be a net negative on society. Gambling is a dirty business.
    So is alcohol. Doesn't stop government from selling it everywhere and taxing it heavily. AND so many great memories are created over a glass of good wine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGilmore18 View Post
    Yes, but imagine a commercial asking you to try cocaine or crack?

    That is basically what this is, leads down a similar path.
    What are you talking about? Gambling is worse than crack. If the government tells you Jack Daniels is ok but marijuana is not, do you just believe it blindly?

    You must be a guy who pushes his kid to the front of the vaccination line because you want your neighbors' approval.

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    Yeah I’m surprised they didn’t introduce laws restricting commercials, kind of like with Cigarettes, I am 100% sure there will be commercial restrictions after they get 50% of population and guarantee success.
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    Commercials attack you psychologically. Even if you think your ignoring them you cant stop the chemicals in your brain associating gambling with pleasure. It's really just legal mind control

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    GA meetings loaded now

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGilmore18 View Post
    Anyone noticed a huge increase in gambling and sports betting commercials on TV?

    In a few years, a quarter of the population will have a gambling problem and be in debt.

    All my friends have started gambling, not good at all. I already see the signs of addiction. It is like a disease and the media is feeding it to us.
    I was just at a bar about a month ago with my brother. And a college game was on... this loud mouth dude at the bar would not shut up about this game! yelling... screaming... and he kept on checking his phone... the dude had to be like 23 or 24 years old. Come to find out.. he had $10.00 on a straight wager.... I turn to my brother and said... all this yelling over $10.00? lol What is this guy going to do when he has $500 on a game?? lol

    Point is... gambling is everywhere... even a few females are wagering on the apps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I was just at a bar about a month ago with my brother. And a college game was on... this loud mouth dude at the bar would not shut up about this game! yelling... screaming... and he kept on checking his phone... the dude had to be like 23 or 24 years old. Come to find out.. he had $10.00 on a straight wager.... I turn to my brother and said... all this yelling over $10.00? lol What is this guy going to do when he has $500 on a game?? lol

    Point is... gambling is everywhere... even a few females are wagering on the apps.
    This is aptly called 'market penetration'.

    Not to be confusded with the penetration jjgold daydreams of
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    You're projecting, bro.
    How much have to made in this industry through the years ? You seem to speak very highly of your success.

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    Gambling is not on the level of crack or heroin... or even cigarettes

    I'd compare it to something like fast food where if you're hooked on it, and doing it regularly, it will take its toll on you. But it won't make you rob an old lady to get a fix the way the hard drugs do

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerdevil View Post
    Gambling is not on the level of crack or heroin... or even cigarettes

    I'd compare it to something like fast food where if you're hooked on it, and doing it regularly, it will take its toll on you. But it won't make you rob an old lady to get a fix the way the hard drugs do
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerdevil View Post
    Gambling is not on the level of crack or heroin... or even cigarettes

    I'd compare it to something like fast food where if you're hooked on it, and doing it regularly, it will take its toll on you. But it won't make you rob an old lady to get a fix the way the hard drugs do
    Both will destroy your life if you let it. One kills you faster than the government would want, so it's illegal.

    If the government found a drug/drink/substance/addictive hobby that kills 30% of the population within 5 years of them reaching pension age, and knew it can get away with it, do you think it would it be A) legal or B) illegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerdevil View Post
    Gambling is not on the level of crack or heroin... or even cigarettes

    I'd compare it to something like fast food where if you're hooked on it, and doing it regularly, it will take its toll on you. But it won't make you rob an old lady to get a fix the way the hard drugs do
    Not True.
    Plenty of guys including myself have done hard drugs and never got addicted.
    Plenty of guys and women have lost everything or almost everything gambling. They just don't talk about it.

    The advertising is wrong and too heavy for gambling. When they talk about live odds and show them on the screen during games and matches, that's wrong. It is overload with too many shows about it on tv and radio now. I try to ignore it all because all they do is ruin your own insights.

    All their angles and talking points are paths to losses. The worst are historicals and "percentage chance to win".
    The obsessive focus on star players also throws us off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vene1616 View Post
    So is alcohol. Doesn't stop government from selling it everywhere and taxing it heavily. AND so many great memories are created over a glass of good wine...
    Also a lot of memories not made with a big bottle of Bud Ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGilmore18 View Post
    Anyone noticed a huge increase in gambling and sports betting commercials on TV?

    In a few years, a quarter of the population will have a gambling problem and be in debt.

    All my friends have started gambling, not good at all. I already see the signs of addiction. It is like a disease and the media is feeding it to us.
    All over. It's awful. One commercial, Shaq said he follows his friend's bets because he's got a "winning system". Then some other guy goes "I just bet by team color". They are normalizing stupid shit. Addiction will never be higher because we are surrounded by ad's, emails, banners, billboards. It's all over.

    They want you logging in daily, placing bets every day. Checking back 4-5x a day to see the next promotion or free bet. They are getting players hooked more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    They want you logging in daily, placing bets every day. Checking back 4-5x a day to see the next promotion or free bet. They are getting players hooked more and more.
    Players and their families and friends are betting props and fantasy with inside info.
    It's just going to get worse and worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Players and their families and friends are betting props and fantasy with inside info.
    It's just going to get worse and worse.
    I meant players as in bettors. Not actual athletes.

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    Everything thinks gambling a joke until you lose everything and put a gun to your head

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    How much have to made in this industry through the years ? You seem to speak very highly of your success.
    If you're asking me how much I've made, it's a number I won't post on here for any number of reasons, including because only winners would understand. I know who wins and loses by what people say. It's obvious.

    If you treat sportsbetting as a market and follow it closely, it's "easy" to win. It does take some time and dedication though. Most either can't or won't do it. But if you at leas understand and follow some principles, you can do OK.

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    Yeh but Eliminate 95% because they do not have what it takes

    It’s any business most people fail because they do not have what it takes to be successful


    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    If you're asking me how much I've made, it's a number I won't post on here for any number of reasons, including because only winners would understand. I know who wins and loses by what people say. It's obvious.

    If you treat sportsbetting as a market and follow it closely, it's "easy" to win. It does take some time and dedication though. Most either can't or won't do it. But if you at leas understand and follow some principles, you can do OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Yeh but Eliminate 95% because they do not have what it takes

    It’s any business most people fail because they do not have what it takes to be successful
    In this case, I think it's because most people don't understand or comprehend what it takes and what makes the difference between winning and losing. They just don't get it. You can tell them and they still either won't get it or don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    In this case, I think it's because most people don't understand or comprehend what it takes and what makes the difference between winning and losing. They just don't get it. You can tell them and they still either won't get it or don't care.
    There's not a ton of the public who can understand the fairly basic math involved to be a winner either

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    The problem is not sports betting as much as casino. Once you've got all these little outfits by the payday loans and liquor stores, they've got people in there all day long. Then you have all sorts of crime. The gambling laws are less about gambling as they are about property values.

    You've got to keep this stuff to resorts and internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubie69 View Post
    There's not a ton of the public who can understand the fairly basic math involved to be a winner either
    Like it's not about picking the right side. Example, you want to bet Fla Int vs. ND this morning. It opened FIU -11.5 and closed -8. They won by 9. Bet it at the right time and it didn't matter which side you liked, you win. This only has to happen 1 in 20 times to turn 50% into 55% or vice versa. Now keep doing that forever and you win. Don't do it and you lose. Very simple. I should stop telling people though.

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    Pkz tell your family to keep playing poker i cleaned house on their funk last nite.

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    Betting it at right time is random

    Totally irrelevant


    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Like it's not about picking the right side. Example, you want to bet Fla Int vs. ND this morning. It opened FIU -11.5 and closed -8. They won by 9. Bet it at the right time and it didn't matter which side you liked, you win. This only has to happen 1 in 20 times to turn 50% into 55% or vice versa. Now keep doing that forever and you win. Don't do it and you lose. Very simple. I should stop telling people though.

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