[The Kraken]

I'm not going to go into the specific ways in which the security of posters is in jeopardy here, I don't want to give some dipshit any ideas.

This isn't about Brock and Rudy and some dumb posts about some guy named Seer, which I thought was just a nickname for Seaweed....lmao.

There could be security issues here and anyone who's ordered anything, including donations, can be at risk.

It's not a good thing Krackles. Literally no good can come out of what we've seen with this account manipulation.

I'm glad the "glitch" was "momentary" and I'm sure Brock is too, but it leads to so many more questions.

I agree its not a good look. I posted the same the day it happened. It seems child'ish.

But in the grander scheme of things, a posters name got changed for an hour, made a semi-questionable post and thats it.

As for security, I get your point. But I'll trust Spider that they have no access to our info.

What are the possibilities here:
A.) Pavy photoshopped it
B.) Momentary Glitch
C.) Brock somehow skirted the system and changed his name
D.) A current or former mod is trolling
E.) A poster hacked the system and changed the name

Of those scenarios, only E is concerning and its not likely that happened.

[KVB]

...A.) Pavy photoshopped it
B.) Momentary Glitch
C.) Brock somehow skirted the system and changed his name
D.) A current or former mod is trolling
E.) A poster hacked the system and changed the name

Of those scenarios, only E is concerning and its not likely that happened.

It's pretty clear what happened here is D.

And that is the only concerning thing to me.

I'm not worried about E, I don't live in fear.

You are still worried about a name change and trolling, I'm not worried about a name change.

I am worried about security for all users with info on file.

[RudyRuetigger]

names , addresses and sportsbook accounts are not registered in the mod panel. they are kept elsewhere in admin files.

shari said that about name changing as well

[RudyRuetigger]

It's pretty clear what happened here is D.

And that is the only concerning thing to me.

I'm not worried about E, I don't live in fear.

You are still worried about a name change and trolling, I'm not worried about a name change.

I am worried about security for all users with info on file.

exactly what i have been saying


AGAIN, thank you for replies


it is a bigger deal than kraken thinks

[pavyracer]

I agree with KVB. D is the most plausible scenario. This was an inside job. And the reason it stopped so quickly is some higher up got involved to fix this loophole that allowed this. Now SBR is playing dumb with our intelligence so we can let this slip by.

[Roger T. Bannon]

What kind of info do you have that is going to put someone at risk? They get your email address at sign up. That is all they have. Name and address on a payment. You get junk mail everyday. Your name and address are known. It is in the telephone book. If you still have one.

[RudyRuetigger]

I agree with KVB. D is the most plausible scenario. This was an inside job. And the reason it stopped so quickly is some higher up got involved to fix this loophole that allowed this. Now SBR is playing dumb with our intelligence so we can let this slip by.

yea well if you and stake1 didnt catch this, i wouldve been banned and this goes unnoticed


i really thank you guys

[RudyRuetigger]

What kind of info do you have that is going to put someone at risk? They get your email address at sign up. That is all they have. Name and address on a payment. You get junk mail everyday. Your name and address are known. It is in the telephone book. If you still have one.

you want us to post how to scam on the forum?



dumbass

[Zaidoun44]

How do I cash out my betpoint? I see nothing on redeem

[pavyracer]

What kind of info do you have that is going to put someone at risk? They get your email address at sign up. That is all they have. Name and address on a payment. You get junk mail everyday. Your name and address are known. It is in the telephone book. If you still have one.

Roger a long time ago I signed up for a book through the SBR links for a contest (10 years plus ago). One day I get an email from the book that addressed me as pavyracer. I ownly use pavyracer on this site. Why would the email from the book not address me with my real name I signed up for the book?

The point is the books have all our information from SBR and a disgruntled ex-employee may be selling the info for personal gain. This is why security is very important.

[RudyRuetigger]

it is 1000% a security issue


and shari says now maybe it is bullshit and photoshopped????


after spider CONFIRMED that it happened



brock is too stupid to realize what is happening

[KVB]

names , addresses and sportsbook accounts are not registered in the mod panel. they are kept elsewhere in admin files.

Great, so we can begin to narrow it down.

Will there be any further investigation outside of this post?

A head must roll here, there is no alternative.

Please keep us informed.

Thank you.

KVB

[RudyRuetigger]

Great, so we can begin to narrow it down.

Will there be any further investigation outside of this post?

A head must roll here, there is no alternative.

Please keep us informed.

Thank you.

KVB

just read these again

I really don't know about that one. I was told about it in the middle of the night my time but there would be very few people here at the moment with enough access to even change someone's name. It's always been our policy to never allow name changes unless someone wants to forfeit the points, posting history, Pro status, and has a very good reason for it.

I'm trying to figure out what's going on with a lot of stuff so will definitely look into it but I can't guarantee I'll be able to give you an answer. Seems to be very strange and juvenile if that was the case though.

There is no way that any new or even most current staff here would have access to change his name, post under his account, know about the Seer (since most posters chirping in this thread don’t even know him).

I’m actually starting to think this is all bullshit but will check more when I get home. Has anyone even asked Brock? He can’t change his name on his own.

​So how did spider notice it and was able to correct it as a glitch?


the moderator spider knew it was a glitch and corrected it....the admin shari thinks maybe it was a joke?

[RudyRuetigger]

i fully expect to be banned again by a "mod"


only because i bring this up and the reasoning makes no sense




i mean....mods dont have to worry about anything except posts right now.


noone is filing an offshore complaint with sbr


noone is filing an ONSHORE complaint



what are the mods/admins doing?

[KVB]

Rudy I'm choosing not to go back to posts where they are trying to figure it out or say what they may or may not know, I want to read consructive posts from SBR on this going forward.

I don't want to add 2+2, I want to know who SBR found responsibile and what they are doing about it.

A head must roll here, and I don't think it's the head of a mod. It's not the head of spider or shari.

If answers aren't available, then we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

For those thinking it's just a childish joke with a name change and random posts, I respectfully disagree, there is a bigger picture here.

If some admin steps in and says "yeah it was me, thought it would be funny" so be it, that's what I would like to hear.

[RudyRuetigger]

Rudy I'm choosing not to go back to posts where they are trying to figure it out or say what they may or may not know, I want to read consructive posts from SBR on this going forward.

I don't want to add 2+2, I want to know who SBR found responsibile and what they are doing about it.

A head must roll here, and I don't think it's the head of a mod. It's not the head of spider or shari.

If answers aren't available, then we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

For those thinking it's just a childish joke with a name change and random posts, I respectfully disagree, there is a bigger picture here.

If some admin steps in and says "yeah it was me, thought it would be funny" so be it, that's what I would like to hear.

i agree except for your last sentence



security online is never funny


im just glad you guys are on my side and realize its a huge problem

[KVB]

i agree except for your last sentence



security online is never funny


im just glad you guys are on my side and realize its a huge problem

If it's an admin joking, then it's pretty much NOT a security issue.

If it's a former employee, we have a different issue.

I would like to hear that somebody who has authorized access to these files did it as a joke. Even if I don't really like it, it's the only thing that I would want to hear.

It's not the best thing to hear, but all other options, in my opinion, are not good ones.

[RudyRuetigger]

If it's an admin joking, then it's pretty much NOT a security issue.

If it's a former employee, we have a different issue.

I would like to hear that somebody who has authorized access to these files did it as a joke. Even if I don't really like it, it's the only thing that I would want to hear.

It's not the best thing to hear, but all other options, in my opinion, are not good ones.

I dont agree with your analysis but lets say your way is correct:



the moderator spider said it is all good NOW


the admin shari thinks it might be a joke



what more do you need??????

[spider]

just read these again

​So how did spider notice it and was able to correct it as a glitch?
the moderator spider knew it was a glitch and corrected it....the admin shari thinks maybe it was a joke?

It was reported that there was a thread in PT regarding a post bearing rudy's name on Brocks account.
I went in and corrected it. no idea what/how happened. thought it was a glitch. end of story.

[RudyRuetigger]

i have more info regarding this issue but it seems like it is not an issue to shari and probably a joke????????????


im not going to spill out everything that i think happened.........kvb probably has a great idea as well



maybe we are similar or different but its a big deal

[KVB]

It was reported that there was a thread in PT regarding a post bearing rudy's name on Brocks account.
I went in and corrected it. no idea what/how happened. thought it was a glitch. end of story.

Spider you guys need to stop posting and sit down and make a list of everyone who had the ability to do this. Then make a head roll...lol.

I think you are confusing the issue as we have heard, even over the years, that mods can't change names.

names , addresses and sportsbook accounts are not registered in the mod panel. they are kept elsewhere in admin files.

Spider, this is not on you, to be clear, but what does this mean "not registered"?

Spider are you a mod, do you have access to this? If you could change the name back, then could someone with your access have changed it to begin with? Spider, maybe you have admin capabilities?

We need to know who did this, why, and whether or not we can expect this to happen again, or at the very least, we don't need to know who, why, etc. but we should be told what happened and what is being done to prevent this from happening again.

You guys need to start narrowing this down.

Otherwise, the only person at SBR that I have ever known to be able to change a name is you Spider.

After all, you changed the name back to Brock. I'm not implying you did this, in fact I really don't see it that way, but there are others with the keys to the car, obviously.

[RudyRuetigger]

i disagree with kvb every other day


and i hate the guy


but man, he is sharp


this needs an explanation

[Roger T. Bannon]

The most likely was jjgold. But I don't think they let him have access because they know he would do this kind of thing.

[KVB]

i disagree with kvb every other day


and i hate the guy


but man, he is sharp


this needs an explanation

The only stance I ever take is on information integrity and attacking forum liars.

If you diasgree with me or hate me, it's most likely because you lied or supported misinformation.

There is no other option there, no matter what you say. At least don't lie to yourself.

For this instance though, a head needs to roll, or at least come clean and then perhaps roll...lol.

This kind of mickey mouse business is worth leaving SBR over.

[shari91]

There will not be an explanation as there is no one to give one. Who in the utter fukk do you expect us to ask???

As far as I’m concerned I’m removing myself from this because I don’t think you guys understand that the names still here that you recognise as staff have NO clue what’s going on and have little to no admin capability other than myself. And I sure as hell never changed anyone’s name nor have I in almost 12 years even when people begged and pleaded.

There may just not be a resolution to this one guys. Sorry but this isn’t my site and we’ve got quite a few more important things we’re trying to get resolution on and/or restore back to ‘normal’.

[KVB]

There will not be an explanation as there is no one to give one. Who in the utter fukk do you expect us to ask???

As far as I’m concerned I’m removing myself from this because I don’t think you guys understand that the names still here that you recognise as staff have NO clue what’s going on and have little to no admin capability other than myself. And I sure as hell never changed anyone’s name nor have I in almost 12 years even when people begged and pleaded.

There may just not be a resolution to this one guys. Sorry but this isn’t my site and we’ve got quite a few more important things we’re trying to get resolution on and/or restore back to ‘normal’.

Had a feeling this would be the case.

Thanks shari, I get that there is just nothing more you can do.

As far as who to ask, that's a question, not for us, but for you and spider, and whoever else. Who can you ask?

If there is nobody to ask, then so be it. I do understand this, but don't like it.

If the site was indeed hacked, or gets "hacked" is there anyone that can do anything about it?

Is there a tech dept anymore? A promise of security?

Chi Archie, check in.

[RudyRuetigger]

There will not be an explanation as there is no one to give one. Who in the utter fukk do you expect us to ask???

As far as I’m concerned I’m removing myself from this because I don’t think you guys understand that the names still here that you recognise as staff have NO clue what’s going on and have little to no admin capability other than myself. And I sure as hell never changed anyone’s name nor have I in almost 12 years even when people begged and pleaded.

There may just not be a resolution to this one guys. Sorry but this isn’t my site and we’ve got quite a few more important things we’re trying to get resolution on and/or restore back to ‘normal’.

enough said






as for more important resolution.............?


uhhh security is the prime issue for every site


I have no clue why KVB nominated your post


thats why i hate the clown

[spider]

Originally Posted by spider

names , addresses and sportsbook accounts are not registered in the mod panel. they are kept elsewhere in admin files.

======================================== ====================



the mod panel only has your handle & email., bans, points, etc.

your real name ,address, and other info is kept at head office in CR, and accessed only by administration.

[RudyRuetigger]

somehow spider knew it happened and corrected it


shari, the admin, didnt know and thought we were all joking

[RudyRuetigger]

Originally Posted by spider

names , addresses and sportsbook accounts are not registered in the mod panel. they are kept elsewhere in admin files.

======================================== ====================



the mod panel only has your handle & email., bans, points, etc.

your real name ,address, and other info is kept at head office in CR, and accessed only by administration.

huh????????????



this is a huge security issue



i even said you should be in charge of contests while you were just an ordinary poster


now you act like a big shot



FACT IS..............THIS HAPPENED AND WE ALL DESERVE ANSWERS

[RudyRuetigger]

i dont know how mods are now getting mad for asking questions about this



makes no sense



that should be a top priority?

[KVB]

enough said






as for more important resolution.............?


uhhh security is the prime issue for every site


I have no clue why KVB nominated your post


thats why i hate the clown

I nominated the post because she gave us the frank truth.

"There will not be an explanation."

I nominated it because it stops the running around and circular nonsense.

...I have no clue why KVB nominated your post
thats why i hate the clown

Don't blame me because you don't have clue.

Your the one that doesn't have clue and gets all emotional over it, instead of just asking. For you, that eventually leads to lying about something or somebody and getting dramatic.

You will quickly learn...

....But many will quickly find that if you are lying or posting bad info in order to cause drama or to troll, then you aren't going to get much attention from me.

No matter how hard you try....

[shari91]

somehow spider knew it happened and corrected it


shari, the admin, didnt know and thought we were all joking

I don’t think everyone was joking. I’m saying that there are very few people who would even have the capability to change someone’s name. I’m one of them and didn’t do it. I checked the log in activity of all the former staff here I could find and most hadn’t even logged in here after mid October. That is all I can do.

And no I’m not an admin, I’m now a moderator

[RudyRuetigger]

I nominated the post because she gave us the frank truth.

"There will not be an explanation."

says all i need to know about you


SCUMBAG

[RudyRuetigger]

I don’t think everyone was joking. I’m saying that there are very few people who would even have the capability to change someone’s name. I’m one of them and didn’t do it. I checked the log in activity of all the former staff here I could find and most hadn’t even logged in here after mid October. That is all I can do.

And no I’m not an admin, I’m now a moderator

if you want to go back to admin, shouldnt you ask who has access?????????????