[tmoible]

I like watch horse racing, but I never gamble and put money on horse racing, not even 20 cent pick 6, gamble on horse racing is waste money thing and stupid thing, let me explain step by step.

[slayer14]

The ortiz brothers are saving horse racing

[Cardsfan55]

Yep was bad day for me betting at the racetrack. I don’t go often. Just for entertainment today. Much harder than sports betting and blackjack. Blackjack very beatable. Idk how people profit long term on horse betting

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Got beat in the Preakness but did very well on the rest of the Pimlico card.

[tmoible]

It doesn’t matter you win or lose ,it is not profitable gamble, first the odd is moveable,it change all day,the house already take 15% all gamble money,everyone who bet we already lost 15%, and don’t tell me betting favorite long shot,exata,trifecta.....baaalaa thing,those all are waste money thing,nobody could win,don’t tell me use math what kind of thing to win,i would tell bet horse it is a bad investment

[brock]

One step above Keno.

[gauchojake]

Step 1 slit my throat step 2 play in my blood

[Smoke]

Step 3 RIP GAUCHER

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Agreed deff. lost more than win at the track but what a great feeling it is to do the research on a horse and it wins!

Btw. Hit the Preakness winner for a 50 spot

[jjgold]

Yes the biggest gambling degenerate bet horses

Yep basically lay -120 and -130 every bet just with take outs

[pologq]

Agreed deff. lost more than win at the track but what a great feeling it is to do the research on a horse and it wins!

Btw. Hit the Preakness winner for a 50 spot

nice work

[big joe 1212]

It’s entertainment

I never go in thinking I’m going to make a profit. But when I do, it’s even more exciting!

[funnyb25]

I have buried too many posters in horse racing threads. I can't wait for the next one!

[LongBall52]

Did you ever hear: "you can beat a race, but not the races".

[funnyb25]

Did you ever hear: "you can beat a race, but not the races".

Settle down ShortNipple

[LongBall52]

Settle down ShortNipple

????

[funnyb25]

????

Sorry. Got work tomorrow. Just venting...

[stevenash]

Horse racing is easy to beat.
Wait for the post parade and bet the ranch on the pony that takes a dump.

Would your pal Nasher steer you wrong?

[Chief Wahoo]

Need to concentrate on one track. I stick mostly to Hoosier Park. Take advantage of every perk out there, but I know a lot of people out here limited to what adw they can access.

[Foxx]

With high rebates and/or access to exchange wagering, it's beatable. Without access to either of those, you don't have a prayer betting any significant volume. You can certainly hold an edge in horse tournaments. Match race odds are beatable but I doubt too many places offer them these days, and those that do would be quick to limit anyone with a clue.

But yeah, if you are betting into parimutuel pools with 0 or little rebate, it's no doubt a sizeable -EV situation, but most things gambling for most people are as well.

[jjgold]

Horse racing match up so you’re only edge anything else please just do it for entertainment purposes only or you’ll lose everything and jump off a bridge

[Buena Onda]

It doesn’t matter you win or lose ,it is not profitable gamble, first the odd is moveable,it change all day,the house already take 15% all gamble money,everyone who bet we already lost 15%, and don’t tell me betting favorite long shot,exata,trifecta.....baaalaa thing,those all are waste money thing,nobody could win,don’t tell me use math what kind of thing to win,i would tell bet horse it is a bad investment

[pologq]

It’s entertainment

I never go in thinking I’m going to make a profit. But when I do, it’s even more exciting!

exactly. same for me. i bet small and hope for the best.

[RudyRuetigger]

yes, because if i had software that won, id sell it for pennies

[semibluff]

This thread is what happens when you get your own username wrong. It's all downhill from there.

[LongBall52]

There is some truth to modeling. The problem is that you must end up sitting on a given price/odds. The whales today have bots that bet as the betting closes and you can't get the price. It would be nice to see set odds..Never happen here.

[RudyRuetigger]

There is some truth to modeling. The problem is that you must end up sitting on a given price/odds. The whales today have bots that bet as the betting closes and you can't get the price. It would be nice to see set odds..Never happen here.

dont offer advice



you couldnt convert probability to a money line 2 days ago

[LongBall52]

dont offer advice



you couldnt convert probability to a money line 2 days ago

Two entirely different games/subjects. Telling me don't offer advice on a free message board tells me you're likely a fraud.

[RudyRuetigger]

Two entirely different games/subjects. Telling me don't offer advice on a free message board tells me you're likely a fraud.

i literally gave you advice in your ELEMENTARY thread



Converting % to a Money Line? (sportsbookreview.com)



BIG BOYS ARE TALKING HERE



you have been proven as a juvenile



so it is your bedtime

[Bandit]

There is some truth to modeling. The problem is that you must end up sitting on a given price/odds. The whales today have bots that bet as the betting closes and you can't get the price. It would be nice to see set odds..Never happen here.

Your right - I too would like to see set odds. Will it ever happen, probably not here. Whales do have an advantage with auto bets and some tracks allow them - which pisses me.
For me I play p3/p4's - that way I'm reducing the take. "If" I get decent odds on my prime horse (5-1 Min) I will bet it to win. I avoid ex's and tri's.
Modelling software does produce but, ya there's always a but; if the parameters you set fit the track bias it works - not at all tracks. I do quite well at A tracks and avoid all others - for those it's a crap shoot.

[Bandit]

okay Rudy. Here's the top 4 Race 2 Churchill today: I'll post Belmont 2nd race after this posting. (here's hoping the chart lines up)

1 Sometimes Al 4/1 (4)6 Ames Mister 5/1 (1)7 Parrot Head 9/2 (1)10 High Tone 10/1 (3)

and the result:

1	7	Parrot Head	9/2	6	$15.70	$7.40	$4.70
2	10	High Tone	10	6		$7.80	$5.10
3	8	Boss Is a Pal	5	5/2			$4.20

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	7 / 10	$132.90
$0.60 Trifecta	7 / 10 / 8	$178.29
$0.20 Superfecta	7 / 10 / 8 / 4	$703.61
$1 Daily Double	4 / 7	$152.90

SCRATCHES:

[Bandit]

Belmont Race 2 today:

1 War Stroll 8/1 (3)3 Duncastle 5/2 (4)6 Vici 7/5 (2)7 Kitten's Cat 9/5 (1)...................................

and the results

1	6	Vici	7/5	3/2	$5.00	$2.90	$2.20
2	7	Kitten's Cat	9/5	2		$2.90	$2.10
3	1	War Stroll	8	10			$3.00

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	6 / 7	$10.00
$2 Quinella	6 / 7	$6.30
$2 Trifecta	6 / 7 / 1	$32.80
$1 Trifecta	6 / 7 / 1	$16.40
$0.20 Superfecta

The payoff isn't the greatest, but I'm playing p3's and 4's so for me to keep the cost down I'm always looking for a single - sometimes 2.
My single is in Race 3 at Churchill. I'll post it next.

[Bandit]

Race 3 Churchill
1st p3
1 Irish Hokie 5/1 (3)2 Yankee Seven 4/1 (4)3 Champagneonm 3/1 (2)5 Cove Blue 6/5 (1)...................................

result

1	5	Cove Blue	6/5	2/5	$2.90	$2.30	$2.10
2	2	Yankee Seven	4	6		$4.40	$2.80
3	3	Champagneonme	3	5			$2.70

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	5 / 2	$12.30
$0.60 Trifecta	5 / 2 / 3	$8.70
$1 Daily Double	7 / 5	$14.00
$0.60 Pick 3	4 / 7 / 5 (3 of 3)	$251.79

A good p3 payoff

[mcaulay777]

As i have stated in these threads Horse Racing is a bad bet now. Im old School i love the Racing Form program and pen but that way of handicapping is dead.You will come up with the 3 favs every time. Takeout, Year long Circuits and Computers have ruined racing i think.I prob could go on and on and i played as a pro for 12 years, Now i cant stand it i was done after 3 races yesterday. IN Person is still kind of cool my next time i play will be a trip to Texas going out to Lone Star July 9, and 10th so should be a nice hot night to have some coronas and play a few races.Plus all these tiny wagers have killed the money payouts.50 cent tris 1 dollar exactas racing needs to go back to a 5 dollar wager like for exactas and go back to 2 dollar tris.

[RudyRuetigger]

okay Rudy. Here's the top 4 Race 2 Churchill today: I'll post Belmont 2nd race after this posting. (here's hoping the chart lines up)

1 Sometimes Al 4/1 (4)6 Ames Mister 5/1 (1)7 Parrot Head 9/2 (1)10 High Tone 10/1 (3)

and the result:

1	7	Parrot Head	9/2	6	$15.70	$7.40	$4.70
2	10	High Tone	10	6		$7.80	$5.10
3	8	Boss Is a Pal	5	5/2			$4.20

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	7 / 10	$132.90
$0.60 Trifecta	7 / 10 / 8	$178.29
$0.20 Superfecta	7 / 10 / 8 / 4	$703.61
$1 Daily Double	4 / 7	$152.90

SCRATCHES:

Belmont Race 2 today:

1 War Stroll 8/1 (3)3 Duncastle 5/2 (4)6 Vici 7/5 (2)7 Kitten's Cat 9/5 (1)...................................

and the results

1	6	Vici	7/5	3/2	$5.00	$2.90	$2.20
2	7	Kitten's Cat	9/5	2		$2.90	$2.10
3	1	War Stroll	8	10			$3.00

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	6 / 7	$10.00
$2 Quinella	6 / 7	$6.30
$2 Trifecta	6 / 7 / 1	$32.80
$1 Trifecta	6 / 7 / 1	$16.40
$0.20 Superfecta

The payoff isn't the greatest, but I'm playing p3's and 4's so for me to keep the cost down I'm always looking for a single - sometimes 2.
My single is in Race 3 at Churchill. I'll post it next.

Race 3 Churchill
1st p3
1 Irish Hokie 5/1 (3)2 Yankee Seven 4/1 (4)3 Champagneonm 3/1 (2)5 Cove Blue 6/5 (1)...................................

result

1	5	Cove Blue	6/5	2/5	$2.90	$2.30	$2.10
2	2	Yankee Seven	4	6		$4.40	$2.80
3	3	Champagneonme	3	5			$2.70

WAGER	RUNNERS	PAYOUT
$2 Exacta	5 / 2	$12.30
$0.60 Trifecta	5 / 2 / 3	$8.70
$1 Daily Double	7 / 5	$14.00
$0.60 Pick 3	4 / 7 / 5 (3 of 3)	$251.79

A good p3 payoff

are you posting winners or winners after the race?


some have cash out amounts????

just post race "x" and your picks with risked amount


thank you