[hubie69]

This is not to point out anything wrong with SBRodds.

I'm curious if (maybe when?) sbrodds will begin catering to US players who use US books. I'm not here to sh*t all over offshore books, however, sbr I would imagine has a decent chunk of US players who use mobile apps at legal US books.

It would be nice to see things like WilliamHill (The US odds, not EU odds), BetMGM, PointsBet, FD, DK, etc show up within SBRodds (Any books that might be lurking in NJ that I'm not aware of?).

Is this possible? If so, when can we look forward to seeing this?

[Roger T. Bannon]

Yes. As soon as affiliate deals are in place.

[RudyRuetigger]

Yes. As soon as affiliate deals are in place.

i pointed this out years ago along with getting into fantasy sports



Now you have fanduel and draftkings taking over USA



couldve been SBR



i remember nosnibor11 agreeing and PMing me that I was right and we should start fantasy


i didnt have cash for that but damn we would be set right now



that guy is probably here now, i hope he isnt pablo

[hubie69]

Yes. As soon as affiliate deals are in place.

Thanks Roger. Are there any plans to add an odds api for being able to download odds from sbrodds? Like say if somebody had a DB to store them in?

[KVB]

For some reason I though they already did. I could have sworn they put some of these up early on.

I must be thinking of something else.

Can users in NJ even get SBRodds? I thought, because of the unregulated online marketplace, that NJ wouldn't even allow web access to anyone dealing with offshore, even so much as an ad on the web page from offshore.

Vegasinsider literally changed everything they do because of it.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Thanks Roger. Are there any plans to add an odds api for being able to download odds from sbrodds? Like say if somebody had a DB to store them in?

I am not yet with SBR but may offer a consulting deal. I don't think you are going to see anything until offshore is kind of dead and it makes more sense for SBR to move to US-based odds. At this time that would probably not go over well with the offshores.

[hubie69]

I am not yet with SBR but may offer a consulting deal. I don't think you are going to see anything until offshore is kind of dead and it makes more sense for SBR to move to US-based odds. At this time that would probably not go over well with the offshores.

Thanks a TON for answering this. Can you elaborate on why offshore books wouldn't be fans of having their odds more accessible? Likely I'm just missing something

[jjgold]

Hubie only 20 sites that offer usa odds and for the most part usa odds rarely change unlike offshore books where all the sharps bet

You think I want execs at Heritage, Bookmaker, BAS, Bovada putting a gun to my fukkin head trying to squeeze them out??

Hubie these guys are not pussies like USA book guys and you do not fool with them, they wear furs, lots of chains, expensive cars and ties all over USA

Hubie your a good kid man

As you are well aware the world markets move off offshore sportsbooks not usa sportsbooks

[Roger T. Bannon]

Thanks a TON for answering this. Can you elaborate on why offshore books wouldn't be fans of having their odds more accessible? Likely I'm just missing something

SBR gets its money from offshore which as I understand it has actually gotten more money as a result of US opening up. So you go with your bread-and-butter. The offshores are going to be kind of upset if they have US book alongside their lines because that is their competition. So you do not want to piss off your best clientele.

[jjgold]

NO USA ODDS HERE

I will never forget 3 years ago in NJ across the street from my apartment there was a manager from bookmaker in a cadillac sitting there for 4 hrs, never saw him again. I question them years ago about drop down menus to change time zone.

[hubie69]

SBR gets its money from offshore which as I understand it has actually gotten more money as a result of US opening up. So you go with your bread-and-butter. The offshores are going to be kind of upset if they have US book alongside their lines because that is their competition. So you do not want to piss off your best clientele.

That makes sense, I guess I was referring moreso to odds being available to download...And why that might not be feasible


As always though, thank you tons for the info!!

[Roger T. Bannon]

That makes sense, I guess I was referring moreso to odds being available to download...And why that might not be feasible


As always though, thank you tons for the info!!

Well, if they don't put them on SBR Odds you are not going to be able to download them. No reason for SBR to offer US odds of any kind to anybody until it starts to make economic sense which is a long way off.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Not sure what you would want to download anyway that is not available. Those books are probably copying somebody or an average. I don't look at the lines but I am sure they are most similar to one of the books.

[hubie69]

Well, if they don't put them on SBR Odds you are not going to be able to download them. No reason for SBR to offer US odds of any kind to anybody until it starts to make economic sense which is a long way off.

Ahhhh, yeah, I see the confusion here.

The sbrodds to offer USA odds I guess was a general question.

The ability to download odds was in regards to sbrodds as a whole (including offshore). This is my bad, I didn't specify or make that clear. Sorry for the confusion

[hubie69]

SBRodds being available in API would be an amazing benefit for it's users.

Regardless, I found another site that does offer it. I will not mention the site here as to catch an infraction. Would till be nice for SBR to get this on it's development roadmap. I don't particularly want to have to go across the street

Thanks

[Service Plays]

If it can't be monetized there's no reason to do it. Plus putting up the USA odds are only specific to certain states. Offshore still provides to whoever, wherever. No need for USA located land based sportsbooks added to the list. If someone needs them that bad they can go to their site to see them.

[jjgold]

Service correct

End of thread

[hubie69]

No worries guys, if sbr wishes to remain offshore only, that's fine. I've got what I need.

[KVB]

NO USA ODDS HERE

I will never forget 3 years ago in NJ across the street from my apartment there was a manager from bookmaker in a cadillac sitting there for 4 hrs, never saw him again. I question them years ago about drop down menus to change time zone.

C'mon Gold, those are tactics from more than 25 years ago.

I was in LA, we were marketing online books, straight up running cs, access to all back end info

And we were betting too, recruiting players locally and online across the country. Remember pagers with sports info? 800 numbers to offshore line services, just call and listen to the rotation? Remember that shit? I helped popularize it all down south. It was the infancy of online betting in the 90's.

Some outfits dared to set foot in the states, thought it was cool to expose us to all the risk.

But we were betting too, books weren't all that smart. I know all about the gotdamn all black lincoln towncars and the shady ass drivers that come with some. Sit right across the street to show you they are in town. Suitcases or briefcases of cash delivered in person to be taken offshore to fund accounts because sending some wiregram to Rocco or Isabella in Panama was red flag fukkin city. And how sept 11th 2001 changed all that forever.

BTW, I almost moved to antigua to run cs out of there because of the heat. I had to make a choice on which side of the industry to be on.

I always wonder how life would have been different had I moved offshore, instead of becoming a broker.

But the pagers. The pagers were the best...

[jjgold]

KVB’s I always post accurate information that’s why I’m so well respected worldwide

[KVB]

KVB’s I always post accurate information that’s why I’m so well respected worldwide

I was west coast when it all began.

East coast so hardcore then, the west was fluffy, there were bookies, but so fluffy. Everything (the big stuff) was concentrated, not bookie on every corner style.

East coast mob so cuthroat, but nothing compared to thye lawyers I had that could get you offshore account. All I needed was a few business names in case one was taken and serious cash, and it could be done.

Again Sept 11, 2001 changed that world forever.

Panama was my goto, even though there were other options.

[hubie69]

Like I said, it's fine if sbr doesn't wish to cater to it's US users. I found what I need.

[miaplus3]

Brett Mussburger site VSIN has that I think, but I prefer SBR!

[hubie69]

Brett Mussburger site VSIN has that I think, but I prefer SBR!

Yeah, they do, but that's not where I found it.

I also prefer SBR, I wish they would provide a service so I don't need to add yet another site into my handiCAPEing, however, it appears they can't provide the services needed. Which again, is absolutely fine. I got what I need