1. 06-26-20 07:04 PM #1
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    2020 Election. The State by State Odds and MATH

    I know we've all heard this before but if Trump doesn't win both Florida and Pennsylvania his chances of winning the election are slim to none.

    I took a look at 5Dimes state by state(and DC) odds and I narrowed down the 10 states that are the closest according to the current odds. Of the 41 states with odds of -350 or more Trump is winning 21 of them for 164 delegates. Dem's are winning 20 states for 229 delegates. There are 145 delegates remaining in the 10 closest contested states.

    Trump needs 106 of the remaining 145 delegates and Dems need 41. Below are the 10 states that are the most closely contested and their number of delegates.

    States Trump is favored:
    Georgia -190 16
    Iowa -210 6
    North Carolina -130 15
    Ohio -170 18

    States Dems are favored:
    Arizona -160 11
    Florida -140 29
    Michigan -295 16
    New Hampshire -270 4
    Pennsylvania -265 20
    Wisconsin -215 10

    If the -350's or higher hold up, then Trump needs to win at least 6 of the closest contested states to have any chance at all. There might be a couple -350's or higher that flip but I doubt there will be many. If 5Dimes is wrong on any of the -350's or higher... which states do you think that they are wrong about? If they are not wrong... which of the 10 states above do you think Trump wins?
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    I just realized that it wouldn't be entirely unheard of for there to a be a 269 vote tie.

    If Trump wins all the states where he's favored by -350 or more and the Dems also win all the states where they are favored by -350 or more... AND Trump wins the states below:

    Georgia -190 16
    Iowa -210 6
    North Carolina -130 15
    Ohio -170 18
    Arizona +120 11
    Florida + 100 29
    Wisconsin +165 10

    And Dems Win:
    Michigan -295 16
    New Hampshire -270 4
    Pennsylvania -265 20

    Then it would be a 269 tie. With everything that has gone on this year a 269 tie wouldn't surprise me at all.
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  3. 06-26-20 09:37 PM #3
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    How was he favored in those 10 states in the last election?
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    Too early odds mean
    nothing right now once Biden in the public it’s going to get real close
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  5. 06-26-20 09:45 PM #5
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    The less Biden speaks, the better for him.
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  6. 06-26-20 09:49 PM #6
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    I always enjoy your number crunching......update if warranted.
    Thanxs.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    I know we've all heard this before but if Trump doesn't win both Florida and Pennsylvania his chances of winning the election are slim to none.

    I took a look at 5Dimes state by state(and DC) odds and I narrowed down the 10 states that are the closest according to the current odds. Of the 41 states with odds of -350 or more Trump is winning 21 of them for 164 delegates. Dem's are winning 20 states for 229 delegates. There are 145 delegates remaining in the 10 closest contested states.

    Trump needs 106 of the remaining 145 delegates and Dems need 41. Below are the 10 states that are the most closely contested and their number of delegates.

    States Trump is favored:
    Georgia -190 16
    Iowa -210 6
    North Carolina -130 15
    Ohio -170 18

    States Dems are favored:
    Arizona -160 11
    Florida -140 29
    Michigan -295 16
    New Hampshire -270 4
    Pennsylvania -265 20
    Wisconsin -215 10

    If the -350's or higher hold up, then Trump needs to win at least 6 of the closest contested states to have any chance at all. There might be a couple -350's or higher that flip but I doubt there will be many. If 5Dimes is wrong on any of the -350's or higher... which states do you think that they are wrong about? If they are not wrong... which of the 10 states above do you think Trump wins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    The less Biden speaks, the better for him.
    Absolutely......let your opponent beat himself.
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    If Biden just stays quiet he may win.
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    Don’t forget Nebraska and Maine r split delegate states. There was a scenario where I had 269 each. I think it was trump winning all the tossups except pa and wi. I said in other thread think he gets fla az and will come down to pa wi mi and nc. Doubt any off the list flip barring some kind of world war or civil war
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    Hillary is a lock in 2016 they said and the polls and CNN told us this!!!.. Take your polls and shove them up your asss fake news media!!!

    Trump voters don't poll.. Remember that!! I'm one of them and I never polled in my life..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    The less Biden speaks, the better for him.
    His next sentence should be on inauguration day.
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    It's REALLY sad when you have to hope your Presidential candidate running for office doesn't have to speak..

    That is all I have to say about that..



    Keeping it real!!!

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    It's sadder when you hope your president doesn't speak. The whole world is still laughing at injecting disinfectant as a COVID cure!
    Check out international news channels or newspapers. The US Prez is a worldwide laughing stock.
    They still do bits on...it will go away in the spring, like a miracle! They are quite funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    It's REALLY sad when you have to hope your Presidential candidate running for office doesn't have to speak..

    That is all I have to say about that..



    Keeping it real!!!

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    I will leave you American boys with this of all ages.. AMERICA!!! I'm a patriot!!!

    Let that American Flag fly!! Proud and with honor!!!

    Fock these BLM and young punk libs I say... I'm old school.. GOD BLESS...

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    just like in 2016 when Trump was a 15 to 1 dog.

    Dems are done. No chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickJames View Post
    just like in 2016 when Trump was a 15 to 1 dog.

    Dems are done. No chance.
    This isnt 2016. Trump has to run on his record now and that record is dogshit. He can’t rely on stupid nicknames, james comey, Hillary emails. This thing is over. Trump is finished and off to jail he goes.
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    Trump will carry NC, that i can tell the posters here.....................
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    Lol @ off to jail
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    This isnt 2016. Trump has to run on his record now and that record is dogshit. He can’t rely on stupid nicknames, james comey, Hillary emails. This thing is over. Trump is finished and off to jail he goes.
    You would really want a retarded pedophile that can barely speak in cognitive sentences before trump?

    Wow dude, your TDS is off the charts.
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  20. 06-27-20 12:26 AM #20
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    Arizona -160 for the dems? Hahahahaha I just can't with this polling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    This isnt 2016. Trump has to run on his record now and that record is dogshit. He can’t rely on stupid nicknames, james comey, Hillary emails. This thing is over. Trump is finished and off to jail he goes.
    Correct. The non-politician is now a politician, and his swamp stinks just as bad. And I'm a Republican.
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  22. 06-27-20 01:23 AM #22
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    The only way Dems lose the WH & the Senate is if Biden actually has to speak or debate.

    Trump is finished.

    Party better off w Pence/ Haley
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  23. 06-27-20 07:01 AM #23
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    Personally, I think this election will be very close. Trump is deeply unpopular, but the pandemic has drastically slowed new voter registration and could crush turnout in November. Low turnout elections generally help Republicans so that could counteract Trump's unpopularity.

    Even though Democrats are slight favorites in most swing states, the results are fairly coordinated. In 2016 Clinton's popularity took a huge hit when James Comey announced the FBI was reopening the email case days before the election. This caused her to simultaneously nosedive in several states where she was favored. If a similar scandal or event effected either Trump or Biden before the election all the swing states could flip to one candidate or the other.

    Just my opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickJames View Post
    You would really want a retarded pedophile that can barely speak
    God no.

    That’s why Trump needs to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Personally, I think this election will be very close. Trump is deeply unpopular, but the pandemic has drastically slowed new voter registration and could crush turnout in November. Low turnout elections generally help Republicans so that could counteract Trump's unpopularity.

    Even though Democrats are slight favorites in most swing states, the results are fairly coordinated. In 2016 Clinton's popularity took a huge hit when James Comey announced the FBI was reopening the email case days before the election. This caused her to simultaneously nosedive in several states where she was favored. If a similar scandal or event effected either Trump or Biden before the election all the swing states could flip to one candidate or the other.

    Just my opinion...
    Just a reminder:

    Democrats will stand in line for hours to vote no matter the elements, example, the latest elections in Wis and Ga. If polls don't move much between now and Nov., older Republicans will stay home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    God no.

    That’s why Trump needs to leave.
    Nice Smackdown...
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  28. 06-27-20 10:13 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Hillary is a lock in 2016 they said and the polls and CNN told us this!!!.. Take your polls and shove them up your asss fake news media!!!

    Trump voters don't poll.. Remember that!! I'm one of them and I never polled in my life..
    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Arizona -160 for the dems? Hahahahaha I just can't with this polling.
    This isn't polls. This is 5Dimes. There are only 1 of 2 things possible here.

    #1 The 5Dimes prices below are WAY OFF which would mean that there are FANTASTIC betting opportunities below for Trump supporters.

    #2. 5Dimes is right and Trump will likely lose the election.

    It has to be one or the other. Which is it? My gut tells me that Trump supporters think that it's #1. So... which of the prices below are "WAY OFF"?
    2020 US Presidential Election - Electoral Votes Winner
    graded based on popular vote
    Tue 11/3 501 Republican Nominee wins Alabama -2600
    8:00AM 502 Democratic Nominee wins Alabama +1200
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    Tue 11/3 503 Republican Nominee wins Alaska -975
    8:00AM 504 Democratic Nominee wins Alaska +525
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    Tue 11/3 505 Republican Nominee wins Arizona +120
    8:00AM 506 Democratic Nominee wins Arizona -160
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    Tue 11/3 507 Republican Nominee wins Arkansas -1700
    8:00AM 508 Democratic Nominee wins Arkansas +800
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    Tue 11/3 509 Republican Nominee wins California +1850
    8:00AM 510 Democratic Nominee wins California -5550
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    Tue 11/3 511 Republican Nominee wins Colorado +500
    8:00AM 512 Democratic Nominee wins Colorado -900
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    Tue 11/3 513 Republican Nominee wins Connecticut +850
    8:00AM 514 Democratic Nominee wins Connecticut -1750
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    Tue 11/3 515 Republican Nominee wins Delaware +1200
    8:00AM 516 Democratic Nominee wins Delaware -2600
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    Tue 11/3 517 Republican Nominee wins Dist of Columbia +3150
    8:00AM 518 Democratic Nominee wins Dist of Columbia -11450
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    Tue 11/3 519 Republican Nominee wins Florida -120
    8:00AM 520 Democratic Nominee wins Florida -120
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    Tue 11/3 521 Republican Nominee wins Georgia -190
    8:00AM 522 Democratic Nominee wins Georgia +150
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    Tue 11/3 523 Republican Nominee wins Hawaii +2050
    8:00AM 524 Democratic Nominee wins Hawaii -6150
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    Tue 11/3 525 Republican Nominee wins Idaho -5400
    8:00AM 526 Democratic Nominee wins Idaho +1800
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    Tue 11/3 527 Republican Nominee wins Illinois +1375
    8:00AM 528 Democratic Nominee wins Illinois -3425
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    Tue 11/3 529 Republican Nominee wins Indiana -900
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    8:00AM 544 Democratic Nominee wins Massachusetts -4050
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    Tue 11/3 545 Republican Nominee wins Michigan +215
    8:00AM 546 Democratic Nominee wins Michigan -295
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    8:00AM 548 Democratic Nominee wins Minnesota -300
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    Tue 11/3 549 Republican Nominee wins Mississippi -1500
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    Tue 11/3 551 Republican Nominee wins Missouri -750
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    Tue 11/3 555 Republican Nominee wins Nebraska -2300
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    8:00AM 560 Democratic Nominee wins New Hampshire -270
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    Tue 11/3 563 Republican Nominee wins New Mexico +550
    8:00AM 564 Democratic Nominee wins New Mexico -1050
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    Tue 11/3 565 Republican Nominee wins New York +2100
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    Tue 11/3 567 Republican Nominee wins North Carolina -130
    8:00AM 568 Democratic Nominee wins North Carolina -110
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    Tue 11/3 569 Republican Nominee wins North Dakota -2600
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    Tue 11/3 571 Republican Nominee wins Ohio -170
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    Tue 11/3 573 Republican Nominee wins Oklahoma -2600
    8:00AM 574 Democratic Nominee wins Oklahoma +1200
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    Tue 11/3 575 Republican Nominee wins Oregon +900
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    Tue 11/3 577 Republican Nominee wins Pennsylvania +185
    8:00AM 578 Democratic Nominee wins Pennsylvania -265
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    Tue 11/3 579 Republican Nominee wins Rhode Island +950
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    Tue 11/3 581 Republican Nominee wins South Carolina -900
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    Tue 11/3 583 Republican Nominee wins South Dakota -1850
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    Tue 11/3 585 Republican Nominee wins Tennessee -1500
    8:00AM 586 Democratic Nominee wins Tennessee +700
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    Tue 11/3 587 Republican Nominee wins Texas -375
    8:00AM 588 Democratic Nominee wins Texas +259
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    Tue 11/3 589 Republican Nominee wins Utah -975
    8:00AM 590 Democratic Nominee wins Utah +525
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    Tue 11/3 591 Republican Nominee wins Vermont +1500
    8:00AM 592 Democratic Nominee wins Vermont -4500
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    Tue 11/3 593 Republican Nominee wins Virginia +500
    8:00AM 594 Democratic Nominee wins Virginia -900
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    Tue 11/3 595 Republican Nominee wins Washington +1150
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    Tue 11/3 599 Republican Nominee wins Wisconsin +165
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    Tue 11/3 601 Republican Nominee wins Wyoming -3600
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    The less Biden speaks, the better for him.
    We'll see how he does in the debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    I just realized that it wouldn't be entirely unheard of for there to a be a 269 vote tie.

    If Trump wins all the states where he's favored by -350 or more and the Dems also win all the states where they are favored by -350 or more... AND Trump wins the states below:

    Georgia -190 16
    Iowa -210 6
    North Carolina -130 15
    Ohio -170 18
    Arizona +120 11
    Florida + 100 29
    Wisconsin +165 10

    And Dems Win:
    Michigan -295 16
    New Hampshire -270 4
    Pennsylvania -265 20

    Then it would be a 269 tie. With everything that has gone on this year a 269 tie wouldn't surprise me at all.
    Trump winning Arizona? That's delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickJames View Post
    just like in 2016 when Trump was a 15 to 1 dog.

    Dems are done. No chance.


    I was about to say haven't we learned from the first time around that you can't take anymore these numbers seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrickJames View Post
    You would really want a retarded pedophile that can barely speak in cognitive sentences before trump?

    Wow dude, your TDS is off the charts.
    Trump is retarded and has been banging his own daughter for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Huntertz View Post
    It's sadder when you hope your president doesn't speak. The whole world is still laughing at injecting disinfectant as a COVID cure!
    Check out international news channels or newspapers. The US Prez is a worldwide laughing stock.
    They still do bits on...it will go away in the spring, like a miracle! They are quite funny.
    youve been proven a clown time and time again

    yet you keep typing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    I was about to say haven't we learned from the first time around that you can't take anymore these numbers seriously
    It's possible that you could be right but I think it's foolish to just ASSUME that the Books will be way off because of what happened last time.

    Let's consider this... on any given Saturday or Sunday during football season the Books are going to get AT LEAST one game wrong and a big underdog wins. Because of this... should we just assume that they will always be wrong in every single game?

    When you consider how good a sportsbook is it's probably a good idea to consider how they do as a whole... not just one event. Trump was a complete novelty back in 2016. This is why the Books were way off back then. Novelty's are a Books weakness most of the time. Trump is no longer a novelty. I would be very surprised if any of the major Books didn't consider what happened last time when they are setting their lines.

    But let's just assume that I am wrong and the Books are most definitely underestimating Trump like all of his followers are suggesting. This means that there is GREAT VALUE on Trump at +150. If Trump is a "guaranteed lock" like most of his followers on here suggest... then there should be a 500 page thread about his +150 price. But there is not. My question for you is... if +150 for Trump is such a great value then why aren't his supporters going nuts over this price?

    Could it be... because deep down they suspect that the line is sharp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Could it be... because deep down they suspect that the line is sharp?
    no dumbass

    its because noone wants to keep money pending until november in a book that might not even be around
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