Originally Posted by
MinnesotaFats
Ok here in lays the problem with the left and their failed premise, ignorance of law.
1- nobody has to treat or respect anyone equally unless it involves an application of law (job interview, apartment or loan application, benefits, etc) criteria including, but not limed to race, sex, religion, etc....
Other than that, so long as I don't harm your private property or batter you, I don't have to talk to you and I can reference you by any name I'd like. I can fly a nazi or confederate flag all day long and it's you, not me, who would be in the wrong for being intolerant of my rights if you attempted to stop me.
2- the purpose of a statue, park, road or plaque is its indefinite duration. Whereas a book can be revised, rewritten or have parts omitted, a statue is there to remind and educate all about our past, who we are or where we came from- right or wrong. The subjective removal of statues and names like Lee or Jackson or Calhoun or Davis does a disservice to history. These are families who, a generation before the civil war, founded this Country. Lee's in Virginia signed the DOI, Lee is a relative of Washington, West Point graduate and his homestead was given to the Country as a burial ground, now known as Arlington National Cemetery. To discredit Lee is to discredit Washington- without whom we wouldn't even have a Country or a peaceful transfer of power or a civilian military. Others, Davis gor example, is related by marriage to 3 or 4 US presidents...are they all bad? Jackson saved the Country from invasion by the British with an army outmanned 3:1. They all have to go? What history will you teach? Will history just be Jefferson and not about his slaves and if you want to stretch it, rape of slaves???
I saw Teddy Roosevelt (r) had to go the other day, but Wilson (d) still is cool? Does anyone know Wilson's history in carving up African colonies post WW1 and how he viewed blacks as "so inferior to the white race as to be ungovernable.....they are much better off with colonial masters" (Paris 1919).
Here in Minnesota Griffith had his statue taken down for a tongue in cheek remark of economic fact, yet Pohlads name continues in good will despite Marquete banks having the lowest % of home mortgages to blacks in the 7 county metro 1950-2000.
We have renamed Lake Calhoun because I guess he was a proponent of slavery in the 1830s but we keep the Humphrey name on everything around here despite ole Hubert running a freeway thru the north side, then eliminating the shelters and housing on Wash Ave only to 'relocate' MPLS black to a 8 square mile area known only as "the north side" which is 90% black.
Slavery, long standing slavery, is Spanish and British and French in its roots....but you don't see this stupid shit taking place in the European world....does the statue of King Charles come down in London? King Louie in Paris?
These are KINGS for christ's sake lol, not even elected officials, that enabled slavery.
No, the outrage is nothing more than stupid sheep following stupid leaders for a stupid cause that serves no purpose.
No white guy is going to give a black guy a job because of this, no black woman is going to get a better mortgage rate because of this....you want to tear down some history, start with the historical alliance between Democrats and black voters. Look at that history and educate yourself there.... the dude w the Confederate flag on his truck isn't the one filling your mind w hate, promises and empty rhetoric. No, that dude actually doesn't want to bother you so don't bother him....the dude that's harming you, that lying to you, that's oppressing you and making you feel bad is the Politican with the (D) behind his name. His story, his plotline, his rhetoric, that's what YOU need to get over. Black Americans have been sold a pile if shit by the Democrats in this Country...a big pile of shit, full of hope, dreams, promises, programs, assistance, etc.
Get over it, you're life is worth more if you don't constantly view yourself as a victim. Afterall, how can I view you as an equal if you don't even view yourself as one. It must be absolutely pathetic to think you exist only as a subordinate, but the truth is, when your entire race is a 95% lock for one party you are subordinate to their leadership....and that has nothing to do with the Confederate flag, in fact, that type of political unity for a racial purpose is in and of itself, very indicative of the claims you make against the confederate flag.
The BLM argument lost it's legitimacy with the vandalism and riots. That was the end of any hope black Americans had for change. White Americans will always give lip service to the cause, but will continue to move to the burbs or areas blacks cannot afford, send their kids to nicer schools and own the business and hire the staff. Meanwhile, the urban areas have been left to black Americans. Their history, culture, parks, homes, etc, all that built this country and its middle class, all the infrastructure and achievements and art, etc and in 2 generations basically, all of it is destroyed by black Americans and their voting patterns.
You want everyone to treat everyone equal....then your community needs to do an equally good job maintaining itself, your children need to do equally well in school, your father's need to do equally well as a husband and your politics should reflect equality, not inferiority and subordination. That's what needs to be moved on from.
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