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    Tua threw to the best crop of wrs in history in 2019

    Ruggs was the least talked about and nearly the least productive of the four while they were playing. Heard about Jeudy every week, Waddle was special when the ball touched his hands, and Devonte Smith looked the part. Tua won’t throw to anyone that good on the Dolphins his entire rookie contract. He will have to be super accurate to be effective. I just don’t see the Drew Brees comparisons.
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    I do think Judy better than rugs

    Made no sense y he went after

    Raiders r idiots tho

    Didn't they draft heywatd bey w a similar pk

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    I do think Judy better than rugs

    Made no sense y he went after

    Raiders r idiots tho

    Didn't they draft heywatd bey w a similar pk
    That shows the talent level of who Tua was throwing towards. The number one wr taken in the draft was the fourth best receiver on the team. Best wr Corp ever assembled.
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    Agreed. If you watched Alabama's games, he's throwing to crackheads who have already separated from the defender by at least 10 yards. He was throwing baseballs into soccer nets. Plus the crazy injury history, I wouldn't draft him at all, let alone 5th overall.

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    He should do ok if healthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Ruggs was the least talked about and nearly the least productive of the four while they were playing. Heard about Jeudy every week, Waddle was special when the ball touched his hands, and Devonte Smith looked the part. Tua won’t throw to anyone that good on the Dolphins his entire rookie contract. He will have to be super accurate to be effective. I just don’t see the Drew Brees comparisons.
    You might be right, Burrow had Jefferson but his ancillary receivers were not as good as Alabama's.
    Burrow threw a lot to his running back Clyde Edward-Helaire though, Tua had no need to throw to Harris out of the backfield as often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chargers4222 View Post
    Agreed. If you watched Alabama's games, he's throwing to crackheads who have already separated from the defender by at least 10 yards. He was throwing baseballs into soccer nets. Plus the crazy injury history, I wouldn't draft him at all, let alone 5th overall.
    Unreal how good those guys were. They made the backup look good. You can’t overthrow any of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    You might be right, Burrow had Jefferson but his ancillary receivers were not as good as Alabama's.
    Burrow threw a lot to his running back Clyde Edward-Helaire though, Tua had no need to throw to Harris out of the backfield as often.
    Burrow had Jefferson, Chase, and Marshall. ALL of those receivers broke the LSU school record for tds in a season and two of Tua’s receivers went before ANY of them. That’s history breaking talent at Tua’s disposal.

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    Ruggs went 11th, first wr taken last year, Jeudy went 15th last year. Waddle went 6th this year and Devonta Smith 10th. 4 of the top 5 wrs drafted in 20 and 21 were targets of Tua at Bama. Best WR corp ever.

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    i can't stand Tua and can't wait until the Phins move on from him
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    Very impressive.

    Second best prob the groups of receivers that went through Clemson right before deshaun Watson showed up around 2011-14... Hopkins, Watson ect. Can't remember the nobody qb then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Very impressive.

    Second best prob the groups of receivers that went through Clemson right before deshaun Watson showed up around 2011-14... Hopkins, Watson ect. Can't remember the nobody qb then
    Probably Taj Boyd

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    This is why I don't think people who say (insert NFL's worst team here) would crush Alabama 77-0 or whatever, on account of it being some gross mismatch pitting men against boys, have their heads screwed on straight. That kind of gap may have existed many moons ago, but the level of talent that some of these elite Alabama/Clemson/OSU teams have pumped out in recent years has radically closed the gap. Multiple first rounders on both sides of the ball and at myriad of positions, not to mention future first rounders waiting in the wings, and a plethora of other guys that'll get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. These are professional farm teams, not intramural weekend warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    This is why I don't think people who say (insert NFL's worst team here) would crush Alabama 77-0 or whatever, on account of it being some gross mismatch pitting men against boys, have their heads screwed on straight. That kind of gap may have existed many moons ago, but the level of talent that some of these elite Alabama/Clemson/OSU teams have pumped out in recent years has radically closed the gap. Multiple first rounders on both sides of the ball and at myriad of positions, not to mention future first rounders waiting in the wings, and a plethora of other guys that'll get drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. These are professional farm teams, not intramural weekend warriors.
    Pro teams r much deeper tho

    just cus a college team has a hand full of stars

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Pro teams r much deeper tho

    just cus a college team has a hand full of stars
    They're not as deep as you think... A lot of teams lose a guy and scramble to replace him with a journeyman, sometimes guys that are undrafted free agents. In the NFL it's a lot more difficult to hoard talent when there are salary restrictions, whereas Nick Saban can comb the nation and stockpile a gluttony of talent until he runs out of scholarships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Probably Taj Boyd

    yep looks that way

    in 2012/2013
    Sammy Watkins
    Deandre Hopkins
    Adam Humphries
    Martavis Bryant
    Andre Ellington
    Mike Williams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    yep looks that way

    in 2012/2013
    Sammy Watkins
    Deandre Hopkins
    Adam Humphries
    Martavis Bryant
    Andre Ellington
    Mike Williams
    Dwayne Allen and Jaron Brown pros too.

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    Very good detail in here. Not too tough to look good when guys are always open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Very good detail in here. Not too tough to look good when guys are always open.
    That’s why Tua has to be graded on a higher scale. I watched him play a lot at Alabama and I never saw him have to thread the needle once. DBs played 10 yards off of Jeudy and any of those guys who got a step Tua couldn’t overthrow them.
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    tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers
    His longer passes are loopy looking like Philip Rivers. I never thought about until you brought it up. Plus Philip Rivers threw to some of the tallest receivers in his career than most. Gates, V Jackson, Mike Williams, Kenan, to name a few

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    lol wow nobody questions montana’s greatness or any other qb because they had weapons redic
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    tua has a weak arm he's the left handed phillip rivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbison View Post
    i can't stand Tua and can't wait until the Phins move on from him
    I'm 50/50 on Tua, but at least the Phins got that extra 2023 first rounder in their back pocket. If he still can't do well with Fuller and Waddle, then it might be time to move on.

    It seemed like he has had a hard time learning NFL offenses and reading NFL defenses. However, he was a rookie coming off a major injury.

    We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Dilfer also said mark sanchez was an alpha male of his draft’s qb class. I hadn’t listened to him since

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    accuracy

    2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    accuracy

    2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%
    90% of his throws are 10 yards or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    accuracy

    2nd in league in completion percentage at 70.9%
    Tight Ends and check downs are his friends. He definitely is not pushing the ball down the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    90% of his throws are 10 yards or less.
    that goes for every qb

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    that goes for every qb
    Not too far from the truth now a days.

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