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    jjgold
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    Basically No Edge Any Longer Gambling



    Just look at a line service and all you need to know

    USA forget about it books have it set up to lose everything brilliant although had massive help from Euro Experts that taught them about hold % and every USA book bought the software packages unlucky for us.


    Gambling so widespread now it hurt the advanced player

    Thank you technology also, companies popping up all the time selling data to books with player tracking and advanced odds management and risk tools.

    They got us man

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    Lol there was never an edge.

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    Mack there was plenty of lines use to be soft even NFL

    I made good money in Vegas 4 years ago betting both sides ML's free money

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    spot on jj

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    One thing I am glad to see is that offshore is pretty stable lately. Nobody taking shots and going broke?

    Is the square money leaving offshore and just playing in their local state?

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    try get lucky

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    Yup. I gave up. You ONLY do this recreational for fun. No way I'm betting big money on this crap.

    Bottom line is that most can't resist betting multiple games when it's so hard to win one

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    stopped gambling for real $$$ years ago

    feel sorry for the guys who missed the Golden Era of offshore betting

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yup. I gave up. You ONLY do this recreational for fun. No way I'm betting big money on this crap.

    Bottom line is that most can't resist betting multiple games when it's so hard to win one
    Lol,U been betting 10+ games per day for 10 years now............

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyOne View Post
    One thing I am glad to see is that offshore is pretty stable lately. Nobody taking shots and going broke?

    Is the square money leaving offshore and just playing in their local state?
    i would. if NY was legal I would sacrifice FP's and bonuses to have safe money I can do with my bank or paypal quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Lol,U been betting 10+ games per day for 10 years now............
    That's what my whole point was

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    The edges are absolutely still there. You have to treat it like a business and not just gamble for the action. If you are a true analytics guy you will find the edges.

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    We get this thread every now and then.

    It’s just like the marriage threads.

    Those who’ve never experienced success or even outright failed in these areas can’t conceive that there are some of us who succeed in both areas.

    Once resigned to failure, there’s little chance of these guys succeeding with women, and even less of a chance for success in sports betting.

    That’s why we get this thread every so often.


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    Unless you have inside locker room info, you are done. Looking at same info everyone else has.

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    Whatever info you have... linesmaker had it 1st

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    It’s not the info fellas, it’s how you use it.

    (unless it’s the puppy bowl, of course)

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    You want a slight edge while you yourself are gambling
    have 2 or 3 guys betting into you.

    No more then 3 cause it will become to hectic and you’re
    not looking to become a bookie..certainly offsets the -110 juice.


    Also if you are betting into reduced juice at Pinnacle thenyou can grind on their plays if you want to go that route.


    Many angles in your favour when you got 2 guys betting into
    you at -110 and MLB its a complete game changer.

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    We are just throwing darts and praying it lands.

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    I don't know but I'm going to keep trying

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post


    I don't know but I'm going to keep trying

    Good Luck , Gaucho

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    Thanks Sammy. I think I'm done with table games though. Was in Reno for a night and got pummelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    You want a slight edge while you yourself are gambling
    have 2 or 3 guys betting into you.

    No more then 3 cause it will become to hectic and you’re
    not looking to become a bookie..certainly offsets the -110 juice.


    Also if you are betting into reduced juice at Pinnacle thenyou can grind on their plays if you want to go that route.


    Many angles in your favour when you got 2 guys betting into
    you at -110 and MLB its a complete game changer.
    Excellent post

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post


    Thanks Sammy. I think I'm done with table games though. Was in Reno for a night and got pummelled.

    When Table Games go bad they can bury us Too many outcomes too fast - Dont have time to relax and regain composure

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    lot of variables to overcome and most decisions are from previous data collected and trying to imprint onto future events just doesnt materialize in that direction all the time which is why power ratings and reverting to mean came about

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    The best edge I seen all week...

    A regular comes in a bets 10k on a 3 team 1st half ml parlay in cbk. He lost the 1st 2 legs with Kentucky pending. He also lost his last 2 straight 1st half ml wagers. What would you do?

    I guess I have the full history, but that's an edge I like.

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    There is definitely an edge - you gotta take advantage of all these bonuses you can get offshore and the US- look at the draftkings one they are running now- basically free cash! Also, concentrate on 1 or 2 leagues and watch as many games as you can. You can’t bet every sport and make money if you can’t put in the time. My sport is college football only betting between $500- $750 per game -I may bet other sports throughout the year but just for fun small wagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    We get this thread every now and then.

    It’s just like the marriage threads.

    Those who’ve never experienced success or even outright failed in these areas can’t conceive that there are some of us who succeed in both areas.

    Once resigned to failure, there’s little chance of these guys succeeding with women, and even less of a chance for success in sports betting.

    That’s why we get this thread every so often.


    For you can gain the whole world, but lose your soul. I'm just walking through this world. I already won. I don't need success in your terms of the world. Money, cars, houses, women. I accepted Yeshua as my savior so I can never lose. True story. It's finished. That is success. I walk in the ways of Yeshua. All the things you seek are simply an illusion. A matrix. Set before you since you are blind and can't see passed the flesh. The worldly things. This is where you failed, and will always fail. You will reap what you sow. Are you better than this?
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    reading this thread upside down leads me to believe that someone is out of weed

    been wrong before

    who does that song Rock On? just curious

    oh yeah, David Essex

    James Dean
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    its a long term deal , not to mention grind. Could literally be flat all year, months go by then you meet your goal. Its not an atm or a source you expect to get anything from but a couple times a year

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    As long as lines move, there is an edge
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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post
    For you can gain the whole world, but lose your soul. I'm just walking through this world. I already won. I don't need success in your terms of the world. Money, cars, houses, women. I accepted Yeshua as my savior so I can never lose. True story. It's finished. That is success. I walk in the ways of Yeshua. All the things you seek are simply an illusion. A matrix. Set before you since you are blind and can't see passed the flesh. The worldly things. This is where you failed, and will always fail. You will reap what you sow. Are you better than this?

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    dude above is smart
    probably Asian
    good for him, be cool if that shit comes true the Chinese eventually rule the world
    maybe we get to meet him
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    Quote Originally Posted by PittsburghPlayer View Post
    reading this thread upside down leads me to believe that someone is out of weed...


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    ok, the 2 dudes above are smart
    one most likely not Asian, but digs them too

    Rock On

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    As long as lines move, there is an edge

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