1. 12-30-19 04:58 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    SF and Patriots may argue that.. Still Bills are right there -

    Defense wins championships. So they are my sleeper team to win it all. Can grab these odds below now like I did.



    Pending2/2/20 6:20pm NFL Props Football 25021 Buffalo Bills win Super Bowl +4150* vs Field wins Super Bowl LIV
    +5500 @ bm
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  2. 12-30-19 04:58 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    All true but Texans have a huge edge at qb

    Allen could choke

    Last years best d the bears aka this years bills lost first playoff gm on the double doinkkk fg
    QB's don't play against each other... thats ignorant clown shit espn shoves down peoples throats.
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  3. 12-30-19 05:00 PM #38
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    Buffalo to win Superbowl? Lol come on jibby
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  4. 12-30-19 05:00 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    +5500 @ bm
    Yup I'm on a dozen books and hit them the same.. I just post dimes lines on SBR..
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  5. 12-30-19 05:00 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    QB's don't play against each other... thats ignorant clown shit espn shoves down peoples throats.
    I don't like that term either

    Just saying Watson is way better than Allen

    Pretty much cancelled out by the defense difference

    Houston d is not good at all
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  6. 12-30-19 05:06 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Buffalo to win Superbowl? Lol come on jibby
    At +4500 on average book odds why not try?

    Solid defensive teams always have a chance.. I remember the Tampa Bay Bucks and Baltimore Ravens winning super bowls and having zero offense in years past.. It's possible.. Buffalo has an above average offense too.. A long shot but not out of the question LB..

    Houston is +4000 or more odds to win it all also on most books.. Can hit these all for small and ride em.. Always can hedge out if one team makes it to the superbowl also and make some good money after all also.

    Some of these futures have solid value..
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  7. 12-30-19 05:13 PM #42
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    Buff does not have an above avg offense

    The d carries the offense for them
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  8. 12-30-19 05:16 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Buff does not have an above avg offense

    The d carries the offense for them
    I stand corrected.. Slightly below average offense in the NFL rankings. Still they got better as the year went on..

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
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  9. 12-30-19 05:18 PM #44
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    how much does a forensic lab technician make
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  10. 12-30-19 05:19 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I stand corrected.. Slightly below average offense in the NFL rankings. Still they got better as the year went on..

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1
    I wasn't even talking stats

    If anything stats prob inflated since d gives them good field pos
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  11. 12-30-19 05:19 PM #46
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  12. 12-30-19 05:22 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    I don't like that term either

    Just saying Watson is way better than Allen

    Pretty much cancelled out by the defense difference

    Houston d is not good at all
    youre making absolutely no sense here.
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  13. 12-30-19 05:24 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    youre making absolutely no sense here.
    What don't u understand

    Texans have a good qb bad d

    Bills the opposite
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  14. 12-30-19 05:27 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    What don't u understand

    Texans have a good qb bad d

    Bills the opposite
    How is Watson way better then Allen? Allen has no one to throw to. I don't see much difference in the two.
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  15. 12-30-19 05:28 PM #50
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    Low scoring, common lets be honest it comes down to turnovers most of the time

    Laker God Bless you
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  16. 12-30-19 05:31 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    How is Watson way better then Allen? Allen has no one to throw to. I don't see much difference in the two.
    He just is

    Allen like bills offense is carried by the d

    He isn't that good
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  17. 12-30-19 05:36 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    He just is

    Allen like bills offense is carried by the d

    He isn't that good
    You bought the hype. He won't do much in this game. Go look at futures on qb play. Buffalo will just run the ball all day
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  18. 12-30-19 05:41 PM #53
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    are we really betting against this guy?

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  19. 12-30-19 11:19 PM #54
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    ^^ Yes we are..

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  20. 12-30-19 11:31 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    are we really betting against this guy?

    Big time playoff winning QB
    Watch out
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  21. 12-30-19 11:34 PM #56
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    McDermott is the most underrated coach in the NFL, always has a good game plan and team doesn't bet themselves with penalties. Bills still likely a year away with need to upgradeallens weapons though.
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  22. 12-30-19 11:39 PM #57
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    i don't think so
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  23. 12-30-19 11:45 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    This looks like a great play
    I'm taking Hou. They come up pretty clutch in the big games and esp if all 3 WR are healthy and ready to go... makes Watson even more dangerous. Hou got in the playoff experience last year for number of players. Bills offense just too inconsistent for me in a game of this magnitude.

    Well... Hou ML might be a parlay with another team. I dunno yet.
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  24. 12-31-19 12:35 AM #59
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    Good luck bud.

    Texans are at home. Don’t see it
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  25. 12-31-19 06:15 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Betting on O'Brien in the playoffs not good. I like Watson but buffalo is better and McDermott is a great coach
    Lol again with your coaches. Andy Reid is a great coach and has never even won a superbowl. All the guy does is win games. Unfortunately, he's not the one who went offsides on the final play of the game when Brady threw that interception in the AFC championship. And they redid the play. And then Brady won.
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  26. 12-31-19 06:20 AM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    At +4500 on average book odds why not try?

    Solid defensive teams always have a chance.. I remember the Tampa Bay Bucks and Baltimore Ravens winning super bowls and having zero offense in years past.. It's possible.. Buffalo has an above average offense too.. A long shot but not out of the question LB..

    Houston is +4000 or more odds to win it all also on most books.. Can hit these all for small and ride em.. Always can hedge out if one team makes it to the superbowl also and make some good money after all also.

    Some of these futures have solid value..
    Baltimore and Tampa had 2 of the best defenses of all time. Buff D isn't even top 5 in the playoffs bro. Ravens are better. Pats are better. 49ers. Saints. I'm sure I'm missing someone too. Cause I'm tired. Bills D has zero hall of famers. Zero. Look up who was on that Bucs defense bro. Come on now. Ravens, don't even get me startedthere.
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  27. 12-31-19 10:59 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Baltimore and Tampa had 2 of the best defenses of all time. Buff D isn't even top 5 in the playoffs bro. Ravens are better. Pats are better. 49ers. Saints. I'm sure I'm missing someone too. Cause I'm tired. Bills D has zero hall of famers. Zero. Look up who was on that Bucs defense bro. Come on now. Ravens, don't even get me startedthere.
    Ranked #3 on the year according to the NFL rankings, just slightly behind SF and the Pats.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1
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  28. 12-31-19 11:33 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    ^^ Yes we are..

    Posting a gif of a guy beating the garbage cowboys lmfao
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  29. 12-31-19 11:37 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    Posting a gif of a guy beating the garbage cowboys lmfao
    Cowboys would wax Houston up and down the field pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    Cowboys would wax Houston up and down the field pal.
    Unlikely...
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  31. 12-31-19 12:26 PM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Lol again with your coaches. Andy Reid is a great coach and has never even won a superbowl. All the guy does is win games. Unfortunately, he's not the one who went offsides on the final play of the game when Brady threw that interception in the AFC championship. And they redid the play. And then Brady won.
    Stop. Coaching is huge in the playoffs. Reid makes so many mistakes because he gets out of character and starts thinking differently down the stretch. Buffalo will be VERY well prepared with a solid game plan. O'Brien isn't a good coach
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  32. 12-31-19 12:54 PM #67
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    O'Brien is 1-3 SU in the playoffs as Texans coach with his sole win being against the Raiders when Carr was out for the season.
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  33. 12-31-19 01:03 PM #68
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    Good bet.
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  34. 12-31-19 01:04 PM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiLLx View Post
    O'Brien is 1-3 SU in the playoffs as Texans coach with his sole win being against the Raiders when Carr was out for the season.
    he aint playing these guys are

    qb rec: allen 15-12, 30 td 21 int - watson 24-13, 71 td 29 int
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    are we really betting against this guy?

    can't bet enough against him actually...... his best performances in this league have all been games he's lost. this will be another. Team sport guys..... stop listening to a bunch of suits on TV tell you otherwise... games are won in the trenches.
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