1. 08-30-19 06:49 AM #1
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    Bookmaker Leaving NJ??????? SBR Genie Look Into This

    Anyone know??
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  2. 08-30-19 07:50 AM #2
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    Everyone with any sense leaves Jersey.
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  3. 08-30-19 07:53 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Everyone with any sense leaves Jersey.
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  4. 08-30-19 07:58 AM #4
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    What might eventually happen is a snowball effect with all states if they see offshore afraid of states
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  5. 08-30-19 08:55 AM #5
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    Or they might be trying to play nice to see if they can get into the market legally. If not, back to offshore.
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  6. 08-30-19 09:18 AM #6
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    I think that’s what they’re trying to do everyone wants to get into the legal market
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  7. 08-30-19 09:18 AM #7
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    This will spread...

    Get legal (pay tax) with us or get gone
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  8. 08-30-19 09:49 AM #8
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    Only thing good that can come out of this is so many books where they have to provide bonuses/promos and reduced juice to stay relevant like offshore. Plus legal poker rooms with shared liquidity.

    Otherwise I'd prefer offshore. I don't care about having to pay the taxes as I do that anyways. But if they don't give anyone a chance to beat them. Forget it.
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  9. 08-30-19 10:34 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Only thing good that can come out of this is so many books where they have to provide bonuses/promos and reduced juice to stay relevant like offshore. Plus legal poker rooms with shared liquidity.

    Otherwise I'd prefer offshore. I don't care about having to pay the taxes as I do that anyways. But if they don't give anyone a chance to beat them. Forget it.
    This. Right now the books in Jersey and PA offer 0 incentive to reload accounts. No reload bonuses at all.
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  10. 08-30-19 10:41 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    This. Right now the books in Jersey and PA offer 0 incentive to reload accounts. No reload bonuses at all.
    the incentive is you dont have to keep your money at a book

    keep it in your bank instead

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  11. 08-30-19 10:44 AM #11
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    Cash is KING
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  12. 08-30-19 11:06 AM #12
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    Genie working on story

    I assigned it to her
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  13. 08-30-19 11:10 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    This. Right now the books in Jersey and PA offer 0 incentive to reload accounts. No reload bonuses at all.
    I will say that PointsBet is very good. I've gotten about 7-8 times $250-$300 100% freeplays from them.

    The other books I've gotten twice a $25 free play on deposit with FanDuel and a $50 one from William Hill.

    That is all they have given to me though.
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  14. 08-30-19 11:35 AM #14
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    Tough times offshore and US government will kick them harder while they're down. I would say to operators to get out while the getting is good, but it's to late.
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  15. 08-30-19 12:07 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    the incentive is you dont have to keep your money at a book

    keep it in your bank instead

    That’s a really fukkin nice incentive! Beats any bonus!

    How come I keep hearing bout pretty cool promos from them? Is that just initial signup/deposit?
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  16. 08-30-19 12:13 PM #16
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    Gold what information do you
    Have on Native American casinos views on sports betting
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  17. 08-30-19 01:08 PM #17
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    Native Americans will be big

    More entering market 2020
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  18. 08-30-19 01:33 PM #18
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    hey jj go add 100 points to my contest you fukkin meatball
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  19. 08-30-19 01:59 PM #19
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    As much as I have loved and hyped Bookmaker through the years something is going on over there. A while back they limited there wagering call center hours then they stopped taking if win wagers over the phone completely. At night there are times when there is literally no one there grading wagers and you can’t add an if/win on the the wager. John, who was the best csr supervisor I have ever dealt with gets moved out of VIP then they do away with VIP altogether. I no longer play there.
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  20. 08-30-19 02:01 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Tough times offshore and US government will kick them harder while they're down. I would say to operators to get out while the getting is good, but it's to late.
    Are not offshore books not subject to US federal (or state) regulation?
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  21. 08-30-19 03:02 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Teaser View Post
    As much as I have loved and hyped Bookmaker through the years something is going on over there. A while back they limited there wagering call center hours then they stopped taking if win wagers over the phone completely. At night there are times when there is literally no one there grading wagers and you can’t add an if/win on the the wager. John, who was the best csr supervisor I have ever dealt with gets moved out of VIP then they do away with VIP altogether. I no longer play there.
    Vip is still there. Maybe you got kicked out of it lol.
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  22. 08-30-19 03:05 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Teaser View Post
    As much as I have loved and hyped Bookmaker through the years something is going on over there. A while back they limited there wagering call center hours then they stopped taking if win wagers over the phone completely. At night there are times when there is literally no one there grading wagers and you can’t add an if/win on the the wager. John, who was the best csr supervisor I have ever dealt with gets moved out of VIP then they do away with VIP altogether. I no longer play there.
    I see no reason to use them anymore.
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  23. 08-30-19 03:14 PM #23
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    Seriously??? No need for a top notch book that takes all comers (cept NJ) and pays out without any hesitation or issue??
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  24. 08-30-19 03:58 PM #24
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    Bookmaker BIG LIMITS
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  25. 08-30-19 04:00 PM #25
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    JJ

    is Teaser right ? Bookmaker in trouble ?
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  26. 08-30-19 05:58 PM #26
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    Vip is still there. Maybe you got kicked out of it lol.....

    No. They gave me a standard cut and paste line how they have merged vip service to regular csr to provide "the best possible service" or something line close to it. A total bs line.
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  27. 08-30-19 06:00 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Bookmaker BIG LIMITS
    Their limits are the best in the business. That's what kept me there. They are just cutting corners all over the place.

    and with such big limits it's ridiculous to have no one grading the game and you can't attach an if win to it afterwards either by calling or online.
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  28. 08-30-19 06:12 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    That’s a really fukkin nice incentive! Beats any bonus!

    How come I keep hearing bout pretty cool promos from them? Is that just initial signup/deposit?
    The promos are usually on games. They offer a lot of refund deals on parlays if you get 3 of 4 right. They also do a lot of promos where they give you a site credit if you bet a specific bet (i.e. $5 for every US Woman's goal if you bet $25 on a correct score bet on the game they scored 13. or $5 for every run scored if you bet $25 on the ML in the London Series NYY/BOS, they payed out max bonus on that 3 of 4 sides in the series).

    I actually just looked recently at my site credit e-mails, I'm up $300-400 in site credits alone just for doing their bonus offers. They also refunded my bets on Lakers on Xmas when Lebron got hurt and when Zion blew out his shoe vs. UNC.

    I've also deposited and withdrew in the same day on a reload bonus and collected the 50% deposit bonus and my money was in the acct for a total of 5 minutes.


    And to touch on another point in this thread... you are only legally obligated to pay taxes on winnings with your online account and on wins over $600. At the window, winnings lower than that, its on you to remember and pay in April.... So.....
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  29. 08-30-19 06:56 PM #29
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    Pros and cons to everything man
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  30. 08-30-19 07:42 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post

    I will say that PointsBet is very good. I've gotten about 7-8 times $250-$300 100% freeplays from them.

    The other books I've gotten twice a $25 free play on deposit with FanDuel and a $50 one from William Hill.

    That is all they have given to me though.
    Pointsbet announced a big loss for the last year up to June 30 this week. Sahre price dropped 25cents to AU$3.00

    Thinking it might be a good time to load up on them.

    They look like they have more clue than some of the UK operators about what Americans want.
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  31. 08-30-19 09:08 PM #31
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    The respected top books have made their money. The big name suits made it. That great ride is now a little red wagon rusting out.
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  32. 08-30-19 09:11 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Pointsbet announced a big loss for the last year up to June 30 this week. Sahre price dropped 25cents to AU$3.00

    Thinking it might be a good time to load up on them.

    They look like they have more clue than some of the UK operators about what Americans want.

    -105 NFL at the CATFISH week one from POINTSBET
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  33. 08-30-19 09:14 PM #33
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    Trump will give amnesty and tax incentives to the Americans operating offshore books to bring the money home and invest in US based sportsbooks. Offshore is on the oxygen mask gasping for air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Teaser View Post
    Vip is still there. Maybe you got kicked out of it lol.....

    No. They gave me a standard cut and paste line how they have merged vip service to regular csr to provide "the best possible service" or something line close to it. A total bs line.
    Yeah this isn’t true. So honestly I think they kicked you out of vip. This can happen for a wide range of reasons. I had a buddy get a little attitude once and they moved him out of it and then gave him a response that vip wasn’t around anymore when he asked to be transferred to them the next day
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  35. 08-30-19 10:13 PM #35
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    Also people think one state puts the offshore books out of business. Didn’t people say this when the us starting blocking ip addresses? Or what about when people couldn’t deposit? Everytime these books pivot and stay around. Some people on here just think businesses that crank out the kind of money they do will just give up. It’s just stupid ignorant thinking. Maybe the little shops will cave but they are shit anyway.
    Without all 50 states doing mobile betting there’s a market for offshore books. I’m not driving everyday to a casino to bet overjuiced lines like many others
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