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    Kansas St +3.5

    I’ve used this logic on this forum before, with mostly observed success. My all time favorite situational play. Simply, the situation is in conference play, betting the higher rated team on the road in the last game of a two game series when the higher rated team dropped home floor earlier in the season in an ugly to less than stellar fashion and the team who dropped home court is a top 75 overall team.

    On the surface this might look ugly, but if you look deeper I think K-state is the right side here. Forget about the number next to their name for a minute. A few weeks ago, K-state lost by 20 at home to Texas in what was actually a much closer game than the scoreboard would lead you to believe. Despite Texas having a statistical outlier of a shooting night from 3, shooting 20 points better than their season to date average with the help of Febres (a Texas bench player) who had a career day, going 7-9 from 3. Febres dropped 23 points, about 3 times his season to date average points per game. All of that said, K-State was within 5 through three quarters of the game, only to get beat down the stretch by 15. Also, in the first matchup, K-state was without their senior leader and significant contributor Dean Wade, an individual who presently accounts for roughly 20-25% of their possessions used, a kid who has been absolutely killing it since his return. Honestly, you could make an argument that K-state is the best team in the Big 12 right now with all of KU’s injuries. As it sits, K-State is a legitimate contender for the regular season Big 12 title and has a legitimate shot at a 2-4 seed in the tournament. Even though they have been rolling of late, I don’t think they forgot getting embarrassed on their home court earlier in the season, and they’re going to come out with max motivation. Using the spread as a measurement of expectations, K-state has been one of the best teams in college hoops, going 7-1 ATS in their last 8, 5-1 ATS in their last 6 road games, and 7-0 ATS in their last 7 Big 12 games. Finally, when you extrapolate the line, let’s say 3-4 points for home court in this matchup, the line says that these two are around a PK on a neutral? I don’t think so. K-state huge.

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    Not easy to win back 2 back against decent teams. I don't like Texas though. And ranked vs unranked doesn't work anymore. I think Vegas has finally gotten wise and adjusted even more. Now the right side is more often the ranked team. Revenge factor is pretty bg though. You even get some points One thing I noticed this year and I don't know if it is intentional with Vegas or it is simply teams are more even this year but there haven't been as many big home dogs. And they aren't covering quite as well. Bit off topic on home dogs. Just thought it was interesting
    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutup View Post
    Not easy to win back 2 back against decent teams. I don't like Texas though. And ranked vs unranked doesn't work anymore. I think Vegas has finally gotten wise and adjusted even more. Now the right side is more often the ranked team. One thing I noticed this year and I don't know if it is intentional with Vegas or it is simply teams are more even this year but there haven't been as many big home dogs. And they aren't covering quite as well.
    GL
    I think there’s always been a lot of parity in college basketball, possibly just recency bias from you. I just really like the situation here, I think there’s some inherent value in the line.

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    Saw some sharps also on this. Is anyone else on Texas?

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    Similar situation to OU / Baylor last night. OU got buried at home by 30 last month but hung tough, lost the cover late on free throws. Like the play - Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Similar situation to OU / Baylor last night. OU got buried at home by 30 last month but hung tough, lost the cover late on free throws. Like the play - Good luck!
    Thanks bro. Appreciate it. Similar, a little different as OU power rated lower than BU. But I see what you mean brother.

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    Almost tipppp

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    That’s a helluva intricate system. Nice write up. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    That’s a helluva intricate system. Nice write up. Best of luck.
    Thanks bro. I appreciate that. It all just fell out of my mouth.

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    I'm on the over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    I'm on the over.
    Nice. Logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Nice. Logic?
    K st games were a lock for the under 1h of the season.. books have adjusted now that the staggering stats on the under are in the know.

    Those games were going under because Dean Wade wasn't in the lineup.. the second he came back, they have picked up the pace scoring and the books really haven't adjusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    K st games were a lock for the under 1h of the season.. books have adjusted now that the staggering stats on the under are in the know.

    Those games were going under because Dean Wade wasn't in the lineup.. the second he came back, they have picked up the pace scoring and the books really haven't adjusted
    Like it. How’s it looking presently? I really am a little uneasy myself, this could go either way for sure. The refs are blowing their whistles a lot against K state, which does not fair well for me or them lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Like it. How’s it looking presently? I really am a little uneasy myself, this could go either way for sure. The refs are blowing their whistles a lot against K state, which does not fair well for me or them lol.
    I bet the opening over of 124 late last night but everyone hopped on the under for some reason although I did not agree with it.. live total is at 146 right now so I'm liking my chances here although college hoops can get awfully rig job ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    I bet the opening over of 124 late last night but everyone hopped on the under for some reason although I did not agree with it.. live total is at 146 right now so I'm liking my chances here although college hoops can get awfully rig job ish
    Wow, total was that low, eh. Should definitely hit that with ease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    I bet the opening over of 124 late last night but everyone hopped on the under for some reason although I did not agree with it.. live total is at 146 right now so I'm liking my chances here although college hoops can get awfully rig job ish
    Nice man. These two teams are like the two most prone teams in the Big 12 to go on a scoreless streak though. That said, you’re a huge favorite right now, can’t ask for much more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Wow, total was that low, eh. Should definitely hit that with ease.
    actually got bet down to 122 and even 121.5 at some point.. bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    actually got bet down to 122 and even 121.5 at some point.. bizarre.
    Very. You watching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Nice man. These two teams are like the two most prone teams in the Big 12 to go on a scoreless streak though. That said, you’re a huge favorite right now, can’t ask for much more than that.
    don't worry about your spread play, if anything take a little stab at the Texas ML live to hedge.. this has all the feelings of the Iowa/Northwestern game on Sunday where they had one of the more bizarre come backs I can remember but didn't cover

    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Very. You watching?
    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    don't worry about your spread play, if anything take a little stab at the Texas ML live to hedge.. this has all the feelings of the Iowa/Northwestern game on Sunday where they had one of the more bizarre come backs I can remember but didn't cover



    yes
    Same. I really don’t know who’s going to win this one man..

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    They won’t stop fukin fouling. It’s insane how bad this has been.

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    Texas can't hit 3's and still making this close

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    I'm on the over.
    cash it....

    I feel good about your spread play. K st currently has about a 74% chance of winning here

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    Dude a HUGE hit for me. I emptied my balance on this one.

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    Helluva call. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Helluva call. Congrats.
    Thanx bro. This is a once in a season type of play. My largest play of 2019 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Dude a HUGE hit for me. I emptied my balance on this one.
    ballsy.. glad you won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    ballsy.. glad you won.
    Thanks bro. Gonna pay for my Infared 6s I’m copping this weekend, a pair of kicks for my girl, and all of the Valentine’s Day gifts I got her with a bunch to spare lol.

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    Good shit. Always happy to see posters hit their all in bets. Can’t beat using the winnings on some J’s and the girl.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunlap3 View Post
    Thanks bro. Gonna pay for my Infared 6s I’m copping this weekend, a pair of kicks for my girl, and all of the Valentine’s Day gifts I got her with a bunch to spare lol.
    enjoy.. I just ordered a Traeger Grill so this helped with that....ballsy going all in though glad you won
    Last edited by shocka1212; 02-12-19 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    enjoy.. I just ordered a Traeger Grill so this helped with that....ballsy going all in though glad you won
    Thx bro. Really appreciate you.

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