25-29, 8-9 in bowl games, after the horrible bad beat in the Ohio State game.
I think the value is with Alabama at 5.5. Alabama controlled the whole game against Oklahoma but they were inconsistent with a month off and didn't finish several drives, the defense played prevent with the big lead most of the second half.
The last 2 years Clemson has had a great running game with Watson, Gallman, and other running backs. This year Lawrence is not the type of dual threat QB that has give Alabama trouble, like Manziel and Watson. Etinne is not one of Clemson better running backs, he had a good year in the weak ACC, but he's only 200 pounds, and Alabama should be able to control Clemson's running game without putting extra players in the box or moving their safeties up. Alabama has one of their best offensive lines in years and 3 very good running backs, Clemson isn't likely to have Lawrence for the ND game unless his appeal is overturned. The best team Clemson played this year was Notre Dame, an overrated team that mostly played against weaker teams in the big ten and ACC.Alabama should be able to run, and that should open up the field for Tua to attack a Clemson pass defense that has been inconsistent.