1. 10-02-18 01:07 AM #1
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    Betting it the night before because I love it that much

    Cubs -135... didn't even have to dig into the numbers too much.
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  2. 10-02-18 01:30 AM #2
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    Let's get it Shockman!!
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  3. 10-02-18 01:33 AM #3
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    cubs - 130
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  4. 10-02-18 02:59 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    Cubs -135... didn't even have to dig into the numbers too much.
    Love it. They’re in their beds, while Colorado had to fly to la get beat, fly to Chicago.

    Not to mention cubs already better team
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  6. 10-02-18 08:15 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    Love it. They’re in their beds, while Colorado had to fly to la get beat, fly to Chicago.

    Not to mention cubs already better team
    Their pen shot tho, if i was gonna play them I’d stick to the 1st 5.
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  7. 10-02-18 09:04 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by shocka1212 View Post
    Cubs -135... didn't even have to dig into the numbers too much.
    GL my man.
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  8. 10-02-18 09:15 AM #8
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    GL with the play I'm leaning this way myself, but I need to look at some info before I make it a play.
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  9. 10-02-18 09:58 AM #9
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    Leaning Colorado based on numbers alone, but travel factor plus Freeland on three days rest has me passing.

    Model only has Cubs 52% (-108) under neutral conditions.
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  10. 10-02-18 10:04 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Their pen shot tho, if i was gonna play them I’d stick to the 1st 5.
    Not so sure. In a do or die I’d think everyone is avaialble
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Leaning Colorado based on numbers alone, but travel factor plus Freeland on three days rest has me passing.

    Model only has Cubs 52% (-108) under neutral conditions.
    thats why I stopped digging into them... going with my gut here.
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  12. 10-02-18 10:56 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    Not so sure. In a do or die I’d think everyone is avaialble
    That certainly true and biggest thing that gives me pause on the over as I been considering waiting and hoping Lester has strong start and I can get a good over live. Never really know how starters gonna perform coming out of the pen, some take to it really well, others kinda struggle when being put in that role. For me I just don’t see cubs having much chance to go far cause this day and age I’m not sure you can win without having at least a rock solid pen. Stros were able to have starters perform great out of pen last season so maybe cubs can follow that formula but they don’t exactly have the starters w the nasty stuff Stros did to play that role.

    For rox I’m not sure about trusting freeland on short rest, 1st thing I’m gonna do when I get a chance is look and see how he has been on short rest in his career but don’t think he has done it much. I’m not all that worried about travel, these guys play literally every day and off travel all the time so just don’t see that being a big deal..

    Haven’t seen the total yet or what the wind doing in wrigley today but regardless I lean to over.
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  13. 10-02-18 10:57 AM #13
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    On paper I love Colorado

    But not sure how to cap the unique travel as well as a starter on 3 days rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krk1030 View Post
    On paper I love Colorado

    But not sure how to cap the unique travel as well as a starter on 3 days rest.
    I’m far more worried about freeland on short rest than the travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I’m far more worried about freeland on short rest than the travel.
    Well, you never see this kind of travel during season so it is a factor. Crossing two time zones without a day off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Well, you never see this kind of travel during season so it is a factor. Crossing two time zones without a day off.
    The fact it doesn’t happen does not in any way mean it will be a factor. Adrenaline carries teams in these kind of spots more often than not imo, I think it would be a bigger factor if they had to play another game 2marro when the adrenaline wears off.
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  17. 10-02-18 11:25 AM #17
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    So they play 10,000 regular season games in 6 months and they can't give the teams a day off to travel for a playoff game in case of this very situation???

    Reason number 10 trillion sports are a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    So they play 10,000 regular season games in 6 months and they can't give the teams a day off to travel for a playoff game in case of this very situation???

    Reason number 10 trillion sports are a joke
    Fans overreact. Unique situation otherwise would’ve been a rest. Sports is also about seeing teams play through adversity
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  19. 10-02-18 11:34 AM #19
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    Travel and getting to win 1 of 2 home games as opposed to 1 of 2 road games is a factor imo.

    If Lester gets into 6th they’re in great shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    So they play 10,000 regular season games in 6 months and they can't give the teams a day off to travel for a playoff game in case of this very situation???

    Reason number 10 trillion sports are a joke
    To be fair, Monday was a non-scheduled tiebreaker whereas as Wild Card dates for each league are set couple of years in advance. MLB unlikely to move those given given TV ad revenue.
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  21. 10-02-18 11:40 AM #21
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    Colorado has to travel, has to play on the road and their starter is pitching on short rest and Cubs are only -130ish?

    Rockies are sounding very contrarian.
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  22. 10-02-18 11:40 AM #22
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    Lol
    So nobody could factor in that 2 teams could tie for the division title and have to play a tiebreaker???

    Really, that is fucckkin rocket science???
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    So they play 10,000 regular season games in 6 months and they can't give the teams a day off to travel for a playoff game in case of this very situation???

    Reason number 10 trillion sports are a joke
    agreed. Easily could of had AL wildcard today
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  24. 10-02-18 11:54 AM #24
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    The TV schedule could be set 2,000 years ahead and it shouldn't matter

    When setting that schedule just factor in the very realistic possibility that there could be a 2 team tiebreaker for the division

    Holy shit, seriously??
    That is really too difficult to do??
    Especially when the regular season drags on forever??
    A one day cushion is too much???

    What a joke
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  25. 10-02-18 11:55 AM #25
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    Why aren't Yankees playing today instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    Colorado has to travel, has to play on the road and their starter is pitching on short rest and Cubs are only -130ish?

    Rockies are sounding very contrarian.
    I wouldn't say "only" -130 when model has -108. Under normal conditions with normal rest, Freeland grades out better than Lester. I am talking purely numbers and not factoring in post-season experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Why aren't Yankees playing today instead?
    Post #20. Maybe could have been possible if the two wild card games were on same network (although still unlikely), but they are not.
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    Besides, AL teams set their rotations at end of season based on scheduled date, so would be totally unfair to get moved up a day. It is not A's/Yankees problem that there was NL tiebreaker.
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    Don’t want the tough scheudle. Win your division.
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  30. 10-02-18 12:35 PM #30
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    I mean I get it sucks, but to act like it’s unbearable for modern day athletes with masseuses, private planes, and millions in the bank is a little overboard.

    Sports is about adversity and who handles it best. Ideal, no. Both have to play under same condition.

    Want to avoid it, don’t jog down to first base in game 61 of regular season because “it’s just one game”
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    Quote Originally Posted by ans61201 View Post
    I mean I get it sucks, but to act like it’s unbearable for modern day athletes with masseuses, private planes, and millions in the bank is a little overboard.

    Sports is about adversity and who handles it best. Ideal, no. Both have to play under same condition.

    Want to avoid it, don’t jog down to first base in game 61 of regular season because “it’s just one game”
    Totally agree. Way too much being made of it imo.. during season when teams have a rough travel/scheduling spot it always gm 2 of the series where I look for it to have a effect, that 1st game I think adrenaline carries you. I recall yanks playing Sunday night game w hours of rain delays then having to play in Tampa next morning basically and their plane didn’t show up till 3-4 in morning and they were fine, granted no time zone in that but so what? At least once a week I pull a all nighter and go to work just fine in morning, sometimes even better, it that next day it catches up!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    Totally agree. Way too much being made of it imo.. during season when teams have a rough travel/scheduling spot it always gm 2 of the series where I look for it to have a effect, that 1st game I think adrenaline carries you. I recall yanks playing Sunday night game w hours of rain delays then having to play in Tampa next morning basically and their plane didn’t show up till 3-4 in morning and they were fine, granted no time zone in that but so what? At least once a week I pull a all nighter and go to work just fine in morning, sometimes even better, it that next day it catches up!!
    Using that theory wouldn’t today be the second day for the Rockies 😬
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    Not saying it is the greatest tragedy that has ever been bestowed upon mankind, but it is pretty stupid not to factor in one extra day into the schedule for a known possibility of a tie, ESPECIALLY when your regular season goes on forever

    Sorry to bring common sense into this
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiethebestdog View Post
    Not saying it is the greatest tragedy that has ever been bestowed upon mankind, but it is pretty stupid not to factor in one extra day into the schedule for a known possibility of a tie, ESPECIALLY when your regular season goes on forever

    Sorry to bring common sense into this
    Maggies are you a Rockies fan?
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  35. 10-02-18 12:54 PM #35
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    it comes down to lester shitting himself or not......guy is bi-polar....
    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Leaning Colorado based on numbers alone, but travel factor plus Freeland on three days rest has me passing.

    Model only has Cubs 52% (-108) under neutral conditions.
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