[Sam Odom]

Nobody wins long term unless you incorporate scalping and lots of bonuses

That ^ is where making $$$ used to be -- Much harder now and not as profitable

Still can be done for 3-4c scalps but we're talking about hundreds per month instead of thousands

[jjgold]

Yes sammy

[Alfa1234]

Nobody wins long term unless you incorporate scalping and lots of bonuses

Will try and prove you wrong.

Update for today:

21/sep	Buyuk Belediye VS Ankara U21 X2	2,6	-1
	Bursaspor VS Basaksehir U21 X2	2,05	-1
	Kabilio Jaffa VS Bikat Yayarden X2	2,01	-1
	Mladost VS Proleter X2	4,2
	Shabal Al Ordon VS Al Wehdat 2	3,12
	Leinster VS Edinburgh 1 min 17,5	1,87
	Norwich VS Newcastle U21 1	2,15	1,15
	San Miguel VS Almirante Brown 2	3
	The New Saints VS Bala Town X2	5,55
	Excelsior VS Achilles Women X2	5,5
	Viljandi VS Tammeka O3,5	2,51
	Warta Poznan VS Rakow 1X	1,88
	Sepahan VS Foolad Khuzestan X2	1,95

[juicername]

How are you proving anything to anyone when you're not keeping a record?

[Alfa1234]

How are you proving anything to anyone when you're not keeping a record?

Maybe you should check the thread a bit...there's a record posted almost every day and a total update every few days along with all picks, odds taken and wins/losses.

So far today:

22/sep	Yeni Malatayaspor VS Rizespor 2	3,81
	Madrid VS Raye Vallecano Women X2	2,5
	Torpeo VS Gomel 1X	1,33

[Alfa1234]

Total update so far, up 17.59 units with a bunch of games still open:

31/aug	Kazma al tadamon	3,85	-1
	neman grodna	3,05	2,05
	mlada karvina	1,95	0,95
	getafe valladolid	2,19	-1
	south melbourne port melbourne	2,02	1,02
	newcastle saracens	1,87	0,87
	pyunik lori vanadzor	2,92	-1
	universidad catolica el nacional	1,78	0,78
	montpeller la roche	1,87	-1
	worcester wasps	3,2	-1
	worcester wasps	1,87	0,87
1/sep	nadal basilashvili	8,5	-1
	Parma juve	4,15	3,15
	shakhtar mariupol	3,01	-1
	Crystal palace southampton	3,85	2,85
	Krupa Mostar	2	1
	stuttgart bayern	2,1	1,1
	Nitra Zlate moravce	1,6	0,6
	eskisehirspor karabukspor	2,21	-1
	Wurzburger Wehen Wiesbaden	2,15	1,15
	Forward Linkoping	2,4	1,4
	Karlslund Syrianska	2,2	1,2
	Stade Tunisien Stade Gabesien	1,83	-1
	setubal belenenses u19	2,02	-1
	Castres Lyon	1,87	-1
	Skopje Shkendia	1,34	0,34
2/sep	Guangzhou Shanghai	2,17	1,17
	Dynamo Karpaty	5,75	4,75
	Lazio Frosinone	2	1
	Akropolis Karlstadt	1,85	-1
	Brno Ostrava	2,3	-1
	Kuala lumpur Felcra	2,02	1,02
	Alaska Aces Barangay Ginebra	2,4	1,4
	Plzen Spartak Prague	2,91	1,91
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	2,34	-1
	Middlesbrough aston villa U23	2,6	-1
	vardeneset lysekloster	2,8	-1
	torpedo Novgorod St petersburg	1,75	-1
	Lokomotiv oslo Hodd	4,11	-1
	Djokovic Sousa	9,9	-1
	holstebro skanderborg	2,05	-1
	Barcelona Huesca	2,34	-1
	PSg St Etienne	7,3	-1
	PSg St Etienne	2,46	-1
	Stabaek Nybergsund	2,51	1,51
	Ryazan Khimki	6,8	5,8
3/sep	Pribram Dukla Praha U21 X2	1,93	-1
	Wales Ireland 1	2,22	1,22
	Antwerp Standard R 1X	2,31	1,31
	Crystal Palace Barnsley X2	2,41	-1
	Hearts Dundee R X2	2,89	-1
	Charlton Nottingham U23 X2	1,61	0,61
	Charlton Nottingham U23 2	2,6	-1
	QPR Burnley U23 1	2	1
	Poland Suisse Ladies 1X	3,75	2,75
	Tonsberg Sandefjord X2	2,27	-1
	Djursland Jammerbught 1X	4,5	-1
	Bohemians Boleslav U21 2	1,67	0,67
	Serbie Denmark U19 1X	5,5	-1
5/sep	Latvia Andorra BNTS	1,4	0,4
	Croatia Slovenia 1 min 19,5	1,8	-1
	Al Nasr Emirates Club 1 min 1,5	2,31	-1
	Connacht Zebre 1 min 12,5	1,87	0,87
	Racing Metro VS Agen 1 min 24,5	1,87	0,87
	Jorge Wilstermann Real Potosi O3,5	2,03	1,03
	Al sharjah al ain 1x	1,36	-1
	Ospreys Cheetas 1 min 19,5	1,87	0,87
	South Korea Costa Rica 1	2,02	1,02
7/sep	Hammarby Skovde 2 + 1,5	1,75	-1
	Serbia Macedonia U21 X2	6,5	-1
	Saracens Bristol 1 min 24,5	1,87	-1
	Azerbaijan Kosovo O8,5 corners	2,1	1,1
	Gorna Oryahovitsa Duna Ruse 1x	2,19	1,19
	Barnsley Coventry U23 2	2,43	-1
	Balotesti Braila 1	1,75	-1
	Germany turkey 2	2,25	1,25
	Ajax Zwolle Women x2	6,5	-1
	Italy Poland U10,5 corners	1,85	-1
	Poland FaroeU21 X2	8,6	7,6
8/sep	Japan VS Costa Rica 2	6,21	-1
	Montevideo Wanderes VS Fenix X2	2,01	1,01
	Werder Bremen VS Meppen X2	3,05	-1
	Kapfenberger Wolfsberger X2	1,51	0,51
	Kristianstads VS Grebbestads U2,5	2,23	-1
	Shenzhen Jiangqi X2	2,18	-1
	Montpellier VS Bordeaux Women X2	7,4	6,4
	Mauritania VS Burkina Faso X2	1,31	-1
	Aidrie VS Sutton 1X	1,78	-1
	Utsikens VS Oskarshamm 1X	1,6	0,6
	Dumbarton Vs Montrose 1	2,15	-1
	Obolon VS Sumy O2,5	2,29	-1
	Breidablik VS Thor women U2,5	2,81	-1
	Slaven Belupo VS Inter Zapresic 1	1,72	0,72
	Bijelo Brdo VS Osijek 2	2,76	-1
9/sep	TVP Tampere VS TP 47 X2	3,85	-1
	Gibraltar VS Austria U21 BTS	2,84	-1
	Metalurg Skopje VS Nexe 2	2,09	1,09
	Hull VS Halifax 1min 2,4,5	1,87	-1
	Nurnberg VS Dukla Prague X2	3,35	-1
	Vladikavkaz VS Dynamo Stavropol O2,5	1,96	0,96
	Besiktas VS Altinordu X2	3,4	-1
10/sep	Caykur Rizespor VS Bursaspor 1	2,31	-1
	Lafnitz Vs Kapfenberger 1X	1,87	0,87
	Al Ain VS Al Nasr	2,11	1,11
	Bahia VS Palmeiras 1X	1,69	0,69
	Brazil Vs El Salvador BTS	2,76	-1
	Nacional VS Capiata U2,5	1,85	-1
	Hungary Vs Montenegro U19 2	2,45	-1
	USA Vs Mexico 1	3,48	2,48
	Serbia Vs Israel U19 U2,5	1,8	0,8
	Moldova Vs San Marino X2	6,5	-1
21/sep	Buyuk Belediye VS Ankara U21 X2	2,6	-1
	Bursaspor VS Basaksehir U21 X2	2,05	-1
	Kabilio Jaffa VS Bikat Yayarden X2	2,01	-1
	Mladost VS Proleter X2	4,2
	Shabal Al Ordon VS Al Wehdat 2	3,12	-1
	Leinster VS Edinburgh 1 min 17,5	1,87
	Norwich VS Newcastle U21 1	2,15	1,15
	San Miguel VS Almirante Brown 2	3	-1
	The New Saints VS Bala Town X2	5,55	4,55
	Excelsior VS Achilles Women X2	5,5	-1
	Viljandi VS Tammeka O3,5	2,51
	Warta Poznan VS Rakow 1X	1,88
	Sepahan VS Foolad Khuzestan X2	1,95	-1
22/sep	Yeni Malatayaspor VS Rizespor 2	3,81
	Madrid VS Raye Vallecano Women X2	2,5
	Torpeo VS Gomel 1X	1,33
			17,59

[Alfa1234]

DPMM Brunei VS Tampines BTS at 1.52

[Alfa1234]

Peterhead VS Berwick BTS at 2.31

[Alfa1234]

BK-46 VS Musa Pori 1X at 3.05

[Alfa1234]

Akranes VS Throttur Reykjavic X2 at 2.8
Honka VS TPS Women X2 at 6.2

[Alfa1234]

Botev Vratsa VS CSKA Sofia BTSN at 1.73

[Alfa1234]

Kelantan VS Sabah 1 at 2.1

[Alfa1234]

DPMM Brunei VS Tampines 1x at 1.84

[Alfa1234]

Man Unt VS Wolves United wins by 1 at 3.85

[Alfa1234]

Rabotnicki Skopje VS Vardar Skopje x2 at 2.79

[Alfa1234]

Greuter Furth VS Hamburg 2 at 2.45

[Alfa1234]

Caernarfon VS Llanelli 1 at 1.75

[Alfa1234]

Njardvik VS Selfoss 1 at 2.1

[Alfa1234]

Aris VS Dynamo Tbilisi 1 min 19.5 at 1.85

[Alfa1234]

Lillehammer VS Stavanger 2 at 2.15

[Alfa1234]

Votuporanguense VS Batatais X2 at 2.75

[Alfa1234]

Alebrijes de Oaxaca VS Dorados X2 at 1.92

Done for the day.

[PAULYPOKER]

So you think winning long term is impossible?

No, controlling impulse is impossible...........

100% of gamblers would not gamble if it wasn't for impulse..
Their very first bet was encouraged by their own impulse......

So as long as gamblers are gamblers
they will never win long term,period.........

Ask any gambler if they would gamble if it weren't fun
and 100% of them will say no..........

People who win longterm are not GAMBLERS............

[JohnGalt2341]

No, controlling impulse is impossible...........

100% of gamblers would not gamble if it wasn't for impulse..
Their very first bet was encouraged by their own impulse......

So as long as gamblers are gamblers
they will never win long term,period.........

Ask any gambler if they would gamble if it weren't fun
and 100% of them will say no..........

People who win longterm are not GAMBLERS............

I consider the term Professional Gambler to be an oxymoron. If you're truly a Professional... you're not a Gambler.

[Alfa1234]

Update with today and yesterday, up 24.43 units total

21/sep	Buyuk Belediye VS Ankara U21 X2	2,6	-1
	Bursaspor VS Basaksehir U21 X2	2,05	-1
	Kabilio Jaffa VS Bikat Yayarden X2	2,01	-1
	Mladost VS Proleter X2	4,2	-1
	Shabal Al Ordon VS Al Wehdat 2	3,12	-1
	Leinster VS Edinburgh 1 min 17,5	1,87	0,87
	Norwich VS Newcastle U21 1	2,15	1,15
	San Miguel VS Almirante Brown 2	3	-1
	The New Saints VS Bala Town X2	5,55	4,55
	Excelsior VS Achilles Women X2	5,5	-1
	Viljandi VS Tammeka O3,5	2,51	1,51
	Warta Poznan VS Rakow 1X	1,88	-1
	Sepahan VS Foolad Khuzestan X2	1,95	-1
22/sep	Yeni Malatayaspor VS Rizespor 2	3,81	-1
	Madrid VS Raye Vallecano Women X2	2,5	1,5
	Torpeo VS Gomel 1X	1,33	0,33
	DPMM Brunei VS Tampines BTS	1,52	0,52
	Peterhead VS Berwick BTS	2,31	-1
	BK 46 VS Musa Pori 1x	3,05	-1
	akranes Vs Throttur Reykjavic X2	2,8	1,8
	Honka VS TPS Women X2	6,2	-1
	Botev Vratsa VS CSKA Sofia BTSN	1,73	0,73
	Kelanta VS Sabah 1	2,1	1,1
	DPMM Brunei VS Tampines 1x	1,84	0,84
	Man United VS Wolves Unt wins by 1	3,85	-1
	Rabotnicki Skopje VS Vardar Skopje x2	2,79	1,79
	Greuter Furth VS Hamburg 2	2,45
	Caernarfon VS Llanelli 1	1,75	0,75
	Njardvik VS Selfoss 1	2,1	1,1
	Aris VS Dynamo Tbilisi 1 min 19,5	1,85	0,85
	Lillehammer VS Stavanger 2	2,15	1,15
	Votuporanguense VS Batatais X2	2,75	-1
	Alebrijes oaxaca VS Dorados X2	1,92
			24,43

[Alfa1234]

Back at it, Sunday 23 sept

Universidad VS Colunga 2 at 2.2
Barcelona VS Girona BTS at 2.15
Dynamo Mink VS Luch Minsk X2 at 3.8
Albirex VS Hougang BTS at 2.95

[Alfa1234]

Rosengard VS Kristianstadt Women X2 at 2.99
Akzhaiyk VS Astana 1x at 3.05
GBK Kokkola VS Kufu 98 x2 at 3.05

[Alfa1234]

Dynamo Kiev VS Desna X2 at 5.75

[Alfa1234]

Ilves Tampereen VS Pallokissat Women X2 at 3.2
HJK Helsinki VS Jypk Women X2 at 6.5

[Alfa1234]

Prykarpattya VS Volochysk 2 at 3.58

[Alfa1234]

Last one of the day:

Vita Hasten VS Bjorkloven 2 at 2.2

[veriableodds]

that's a lot of picks
UPDATED RECORD plz
after all good book keeping goes hand in hand

[Alfa1234]

Monday 24 sept.

Update coming soon.

First picks:

Unterhaching VS 1860 Munich x2 at 1.8
Nomme Kalju II VS Flora Tallinn II 1X at 4.05

[Alfa1234]

Update till now, up 18.73 units total. Very bad Sunday.

21/sep	Buyuk Belediye VS Ankara U21 X2	2,6	-1
	Bursaspor VS Basaksehir U21 X2	2,05	-1
	Kabilio Jaffa VS Bikat Yayarden X2	2,01	-1
	Mladost VS Proleter X2	4,2	-1
	Shabal Al Ordon VS Al Wehdat 2	3,12	-1
	Leinster VS Edinburgh 1 min 17,5	1,87	0,87
	Norwich VS Newcastle U21 1	2,15	1,15
	San Miguel VS Almirante Brown 2	3	-1
	The New Saints VS Bala Town X2	5,55	4,55
	Excelsior VS Achilles Women X2	5,5	-1
	Viljandi VS Tammeka O3,5	2,51	1,51
	Warta Poznan VS Rakow 1X	1,88	-1
	Sepahan VS Foolad Khuzestan X2	1,95	-1
22/sep	Yeni Malatayaspor VS Rizespor 2	3,81	-1
	Madrid VS Raye Vallecano Women X2	2,5	1,5
	Torpedo VS Gomel 1X	1,33	0,33
	DPMM Brunei VS Tampines BTS	1,52	0,52
	Peterhead VS Berwick BTS	2,31	-1
	BK 46 VS Musa Pori 1x	3,05	-1
	akranes Vs Throttur Reykjavic X2	2,8	1,8
	Honka VS TPS Women X2	6,2	-1
	Botev Vratsa VS CSKA Sofia BTSN	1,73	0,73
	Kelanta VS Sabah 1	2,1	1,1
	DPMM Brunei VS Tampines 1x	1,84	0,84
	Man United VS Wolves Unt wins by 1	3,85	-1
	Rabotnicki Skopje VS Vardar Skopje x2	2,79	1,79
	Greuter Furth VS Hamburg 2	2,45
	Caernarfon VS Llanelli 1	1,75	0,75
	Njardvik VS Selfoss 1	2,1	1,1
	Aris VS Dynamo Tbilisi 1 min 19,5	1,85	0,85
	Lillehammer VS Stavanger 2	2,15	1,15
	Votuporanguense VS Batatais X2	2,75	-1
	Alebrijes oaxaca VS Dorados X2	1,92	-1
23/sep	Universidad VS Colunga 2	2,2	1,2
	Barcelona VS Girona BTS	2,15	1,15
	Dynamo Minsk VS Luch Minsk X2	3,8	-1
	Albirex VS Hougang BTS	2,95	1,95
	Rosengard VS Kristianstadt Women X2	2,99	-1
	Akzhaiyk VS Astana 1X	3,05	-1
	GBK Kokkola VS kufu 98 X2	3,05	-1
	Dynamo Kiev VS Desna X2	5,75	-1
	Ilves Tampereen VS Pallokissat Women X2	3,2	-1
	HJK Helsinki VS Jypk Women X2	6,5	-1
	Prykarpattya VS Volochysk 2	3,58	-1
	Vita Hasten VS Bjorkloven 2	2,2	-1
24/sep	Unterhaching VS Munich 1860 X2	1,8
	Nomme Kalju II VS Flora Tallinn II 1X	4,05
			18,73

[Alfa1234]

Shanghai VS Xinjian X2 at 3.75