[jjgold]

Trout 10x better and he does nothing to make Angels any good
He cannot not even play and they have same record

HARPER???????????????????? HUH?????????????

This is not Tom Brady, James , ect who win games all by themselves and who are bigger than the game

PITCHING WINS NOT HITTING

LOL!!!!

Dummies ruin their organization financially for some clown that bats 260and would make zero difference if you put a young latin stud in his place making 3 million a year

[2daBank]

Paying any one player anywhere close to that kind of money is asinine. Can’t do it with pitchers cause you will inevitably have them on the shelf for 14-18 months of the deal with TJ surgery. Plus you typically paying for past results not future which is stupid..

I would give machado the money way before Harper but again nobody worth that kind of jack!

[cincinnatikid513]

when will mlb teams learn the long term contracts don't pay off

miguel cabrera
joey votto
joe mauer
albert pujols
alex rodriguez
zack greinke
chris davis
david price
jason heyward
homer bailey
ian desmond
jordan zimmerman
matt kemp
upton brothers
ryan braun
david wright
jake arrieta
felix hernandez
shin soo choo
troy tulowitzski


the only guy who is worth his contract

Mike Trout

[jjgold]

Trout Outstanding but my point is the angels are never any good they are mediocre at best because they have no pitching

Replace trout with some good pitchers and the angels do much better

[2daBank]

Think a lot of teams have started figuring it out ck. You see a lot more teams locking up their young guys before they have done a lot to much more reasonable deals where they paying for expected future production opposed to overpaying for past performance.. see cardinals doing it a lot, they have actually had several not do so well after doing it but the contracts so good and the players still so young w upside they are easy contracts to move and get some return.

[cincinnatikid513]

Think a lot of teams have started figuring it out ck. You see a lot more teams locking up their young guys before they have done a lot to much more reasonable deals where they paying for expected future production opposed to overpaying for past performance.. see cardinals doing it a lot, they have actually had several not do so well after doing it but the contracts so good and the players still so young w upside they are easy contracts to move and get some return.

cards draft well and have a great farm system, always have good young prospects with big arms, u don't see st louis give out bad contracts often as well

[lakerboy]

Number one rule to survive in sports.


You NEVER over pay for players who have played there best game already.

[packerd_00]

How many Teams could afford to do it,that's ridiculous money.Dont even reckon the Yankees would pay him 500 million,he's done f#ck all in crunch time,what's he done in the Playoffs.

[JMobile]

JD Martinez is worth it.

[2daBank]

cards draft well and have a great farm system, always have good young prospects with big arms, u don't see st louis give out bad contracts often as well

Well in fairness they tried with heyword and price, luckily we just got outbid!! Sometimes better to be lucky than good!!! Lol..

We draft and pluck south of the boarder arms very well, havnt done as well trying to find bats.

Honestly they been striking out quite a bit in free agency. Fowler deal looking uglier by the minute and still on hook for bunch of money and years with him. We got about 30 mil in utterly useless pen arms going out this year (although holland’s 14 mil starting to show little promise), Cecil getting bout 9 mil a year and is utter dogshit, gregerson getting 4-5 mil per I think (dunno how many years).

Wainwright been getting past performance dollars for last 2 years (luckily he comes off the books after this year!)..

I believe they gonna make a run at machado but I think good bet they will get outbid. Not sure how I feel bout that? if I was gonna shell out a 30 mil a year deal i do think machado be a guy I’d go for it with. While I hate those deals after seeing some of these 17-20mil per deals (like Fowler) not pan out I’m starting to lean to “instead of 2-3 middling players why not go all out for a big time potential hof’er”? They getting to point they gonna need a splash, if we miss playoffs they might actually pony up enough to get him as fan support is starting to waiver a little. Ticket sales still strong but more no shows and the secondary market for tix is really soft right now!!

[Chi_archie]

good points

[spro23]

next recession is going to really crush this country. most of these pro sports leagues depend on 45+ year old white guys with money. But they're ethnically replacing their customers thinking theyre going to get the same result. Working class people are getting phucked in the azz and its only going to get worse.

I also don't think 162 games will be sustainable to say the least. there simply wont be enough paying customers.

[MinnesotaFats]

If the stadiums don't fill up soon noone gonna get more than 10mm yr soon

[2daBank]

If the stadiums don't fill up soon noone gonna get more than 10mm yr soon

Have kinda started seeing that the last few years as these guys wanting fairly big money all sat around a lot longer than I’m sure they expected and most settled for far less than agents were telling them they were gonna get.. there still exceptions tho, machado and Harper will both get monster deals. I’d be happy if my team landed machado, pissed if they even talked to harpers ppl! Lol

[Chi_archie]

If the stadiums don't fill up soon noone gonna get more than 10mm yr soon

aren't tv deals where the big$ comes from?

[spro23]

Nascar attendance has been down like %30+ this year. Americans are phucking broke. These pro sports owners think its like the 90s when everyone had money. Sports are completely extraneous and a luxury. There's no reason to go to ANY sporting event and pay phucking $20 to park then all the other sh1t to watch a bunch of r3tards run around on the field.

I look for most sports leagues to take heavy losses in the near future. I think it will only get worse.

[2daBank]

aren't tv deals where the big$ comes from?

Yep and those have only gotten stronger. Think the doomsdayers in here being a bit dramatic.

[lakerboy]

Nascar attendance has been down like %30+ this year. Americans are phucking broke. These pro sports owners think its like the 90s when everyone had money. Sports are completely extraneous and a luxury. There's no reason to go to ANY sporting event and pay phucking $20 to park then all the other sh1t to watch a bunch of r3tards run around on the field.

I look for most sports leagues to take heavy losses in the near future. I think it will only get worse.

Only major markets with corporate dollars will do well but the leagues just make them share there money to keep the other teams around.

[MinnesotaFats]

aren't tv deals where the big$ comes from?

TV is dead

Roku/ Net streaming taking over

Days of ESPN (for sale), FOX (for sale) giving big money long term deals is over for all sports except NFL, and even they will take a hit next time round....

League owned networks is future, but again if noone wants to go to the ball park, noone is going to want to pay to watch...

[chico2663]

Trout 10x better and he does nothing to make Angels any good
He cannot not even play and they have same record

HARPER???????????????????? HUH?????????????

This is not Tom Brady, James , ect who win games all by themselves and who are bigger than the game

PITCHING WINS NOT HITTING

LOL!!!!

Dummies ruin their organization financially for some clown that bats 260and would make zero difference if you put a young latin stud in his place making 3 million a year

Votto, bruce bailey and dat dude is why the reds have sucked for so long.Yes you can trade them but sometimes you have to eat that contract

[mrpapageorgio]

League owned networks is future, but again if noone wants to go to the ball park, noone is going to want to pay to watch...

People will pay for MLB.tv if it means only having to pay $150/year (or nothing if it's on Cable) and being able to watch from the comfort of your own home and not have to pay for parking or overpriced hot dogs and beer with better camera angles.

That's why people aren't going to NFL games either. The experience is much better at home.

[Foxx]

aren't tv deals where the big$ comes from?

And integrity fees.

[DeathAdder]

Harper's a warrior, went toe to toe with Papelbon. Sign of a leader and an alpha male. Have no problem with Bryce getting his. Dude has earned a massive contract. 500 mill is peanuts nowadays with MLB tv deal in the billions and massive revenue deals.

[sourtwist]

Imagine going up to bat, every single time, knowing that a pitcher won't pitch to you because he doesn't have to

The fact that he's still so young and his maturity hasn't peaked yet plays a factor in his approach at the plate

He's a .300 hitter with 45 homers and 120 rbis for the next 10 years on the yanks

Protection is everything

[packerd_00]

Harper's a warrior, went toe to toe with Papelbon. Sign of a leader and an alpha male. Have no problem with Bryce getting his. Dude has earned a massive contract. 500 mill is peanuts nowadays with MLB tv deal in the billions and massive revenue deals.

Alpha male ?,you do talk some nonsense sometimes.

[TheSchafe]

Imagine going up to bat, every single time, knowing that a pitcher won't pitch to you because he doesn't have to

The fact that he's still so young and his maturity hasn't peaked yet plays a factor in his approach at the plate

He's a .300 hitter with 45 homers and 120 rbis for the next 10 years on the yanks

Protection is everything

My belief is that he'll stay in the NL East. Gun to my head, Phillies. However, it's also likely he ends up as a Yankee. I expect the Yankees and Red Sox to both make a run at the guy. He already is a superstar despite the sub par numbers this year and the anger issues...both of which will get better with age and good managerial leadership. Guys like Gabe Kapler and Aaron Boone were clubhouse leaders in their player days, and I think that's what a young superstar like Bryce Harper needs. Being around guys like Jonathan Papelbon negatively influenced the guy, and soft managers (Matt Williams, Dusty, and now Dave Martinez) haven't helped the situation.

But I agree sourtwist, being in the right lineup and with the right players will put Harper in Cooperstown someday. Bank on it.

[jjgold]

Baseball revenues have to be sinking

Plus baseball not even marketable

No young people even watch, this is not the NBA or NFL

[d2bets]

He'll do well for himself, but he isn't getting 500 million. If he wants a forever-type contract, most he'll get is 350 million.

[jjgold]

Harper fortunate to play for a very good team and still can’t get him a title so obviously he’s not worth the money

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Harper's approach and swing are totally fukked right now...agreed, no way I'd pay him even close to what he is looking for.

that said, someone will open the coffers for him.

[goduke]

People will pay for MLB.tv if it means only having to pay $150/year (or nothing if it's on Cable) and being able to watch from the comfort of your own home and not have to pay for parking or overpriced hot dogs and beer with better camera angles.

That's why people aren't going to NFL games either. The experience is much better at home.

The one problem with sports on the net is they are all delayed. If you watch any live sports online what you see happened 1.5 to 3 minutes before. Doesn’t work for live betting

[jjgold]

The average kid or young person could not name 5 MLB players

It is a dying sport

[Venom72]

The average kid or young person could not name 5 MLB players

It is a dying sport

Your right about kids,thats always been an issue for mlb they cant attract the younger crowd like basketball and football can..dying is a strong word though, baseball will always have its core audience

[bonusguy]

harper hitting .210

the entire MLB is focused on stopping him. hours of video on how to get him out has worked

[BigBusiness]

Nascar attendance has been down like %30+ this year. Americans are phucking broke. These pro sports owners think its like the 90s when everyone had money. Sports are completely extraneous and a luxury. There's no reason to go to ANY sporting event and pay phucking $20 to park then all the other sh1t to watch a bunch of r3tards run around on the field.

I look for most sports leagues to take heavy losses in the near future. I think it will only get worse.

What in the hell are you talking about. This economy is just aas good as it was in the 90's

Jobs are plentiful. People have more money in their pocket than they did less than a decade ago.