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    Jas
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    Can we talk about losses?

    This may not be the place for this, but let's talk about losses:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AN3VLLlkdI

    In the last post I made, I came to y'all and asked advice on money management. I told y'all about how my girl and betting make me feel happiest. However, because I want to be better, I feel that you can not improve without transparency about your own mistakes, and hearing about the mistakes of others.

    Couple years ago, I thought all I had to do was pick winners and it would all be easy, and for a while it was. I was a low volume better, but making enough money to travel and live modestly in cheap countries in Asia and South America without a full time gig. Sometimes I'd work part time, but once I started betting more seriously, it showed me that this thing is all I wanted to do professionally.

    At the time I was in a relationship (that later imploded) and during one of our arguments, I said, "screw her".and decided id shoot my shot at real deal offline betting.

    I mentioned in my last thread that I even moved to Costa Rica looking for a job in the industry, only to find out there is no real casinos for sportsbetting out there and the books like betchris etc,. Are just a group of offices near a small compound, not the glamours Vegas style stuff is imagine in movies.

    Furthermore, there were only customer service representative jobs and those were SCARCE and not well paying by US standards (decent for Costa Rica). One guy I met ,randomly, worked for betChris at the time and when I told him about my plans he started to give me the reality and things quickly kinda fizzled out.

    But back to the point, after arguing with my then girlfriend, I got on a plane with some salary and a few dollars of winnings, but instead of flying to Vegas, I flew to Singapore. Yes, someone actually had choices on where to gamble and choose SingaporePools willingly.

    I started out my trip by winning $3,000 in 3 days only with some crazy high risk parlay bets. However by the end of the second week I'd lost $5,000 and was crushed. Im sure many people have lost more or bet that casually, but it was the most money I'd lost in the quickest amount of time. My profits were spent and $5000 on top.

    That experience put me back to a full-time and I reunited with my girlfriend at that time (biggest mistake of my life) and that bad gambling experience set me back a year or 2 in my love and job life. Flash forward several years later and my problem is still about money management, understanding compounding and protecting wins, grinding out daily gains instead of trying to make $2000 in a day. This aggressive attitude is not sustainable and I want to get smarter and better long term.

    I'm hoping people will share more harsh realities and their own experiences, so we can commincate our failings and learn. Hell, tell me your successes and what worked for you.

    These days I only bet soccer and hockey over and unders. I've learned that sometimes the thing you like watching and playing in real life (football and basketball And tennis) will be what you absolutely suck at betting, but something that you hardly follow (like hockey) could just be your "thing" as a better and you don't know why.

    Sportsbooks or finding a local bookie seems to be the way to go from reading other stories here, is it true? Who are the best 2 books to sign up for. At the moment I have 5Dimes, Betdsi and Wagerweb. Which of the big boy books is essential to get an account with? I don't mind living outside of the US to place my bet.
    Last edited by Jas; 05-06-18 at 08:59 AM. Reason: Wanted to edit the title, but not sure how

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    Again you have mentioned betting parlays in the past & it's clear that too many of them was your first problem.

    As for the best 2 books to sign up online with, you will hear many start with Heritage & Bookmaker.

    But through your experience you may have already learned that you might want to fund multiple accounts.

    If you are as serious about doing this full time as you state you are, then you need the availability of shopping lines.

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    I commented in your other thread but it seems to me you already know what the problem is. Take a good look in the mirror and either change some things up or continue to do the same thing and get the same result. I look at gambling as a war, not a battle. You can't win everyday and must learn that some days you must take a loss, tomorrow is a new day. In the end, it;s on you to control yourself and show some willpower and bankroll management.

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    These threads are very very funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Again you have mentioned betting parlays in the past & it's clear that too many of them was your first problem.

    As for the best 2 books to sign up online with, you will hear many start with Heritage & Bookmaker.

    But through your experience you may have already learned that you might want to fund multiple accounts.

    If you are as serious about doing this full time as you state you are, then you need the availability of shopping lines.

    Check out the sponsors atop this page.
    Thanks again for this solid advice. You mentioned it before and it was the first time I've ever considered that I am betting "too many" parlays because those have always been my only bets.

    I only bet a single when I'm hedging a parlay or when I am on a favorite during live bettin to add some quick cash to a bigger parlay bet. I'm a bit lost on single betting. You are right though because I am the type of person who will do at least 5 to 15 parlays a day depending on the day. They will be at least $50-200 each and will be from my previous winnings of a new deposit. I can make it fast but lose it fast also

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    Start with only betting 2% of your total bankroll and create your own numbers on every game you bet. This is the only way you will beat this game long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    I commented in your other thread but it seems to me you already know what the problem is. Take a good look in the mirror and either change some things up or continue to do the same thing and get the same result. I look at gambling as a war, not a battle. You can't win everyday and must learn that some days you must take a loss, tomorrow is a new day. In the end, it;s on you to control yourself and show some willpower and bankroll management.
    I've played so many that I know the days that I won't win. My schedule for soccer is Tuesday afternoon, Friday morning, Saturday, and Sunday.

    All my betting records over time clearly shows that when I play any days besides those, I expose myself to awful match-up and bad lines or I'm missing goal lines on days outside of my schedule.

    I talk about the importance of those dates so much that my girl will say to me " what are you doing betting this day, you said you should never bet this day"

    Selfcontrol and ego are costing me that war you mentioned. I'm winning battles for 10* or 20* or 30* what I start with by 2 or 3 days, but I'm losing the long term war now big time.
    Last edited by Jas; 05-06-18 at 09:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeFinder View Post
    Start with only betting 2% of your total bankroll and create your own numbers on every game you bet. This is the only way you will beat this game long term.
    Thanks, I'm doing my own numbers on goals over and under now, I rarely want to see the books numbers, unless I'm lazy and just want to play a vig bet and just assume the odds makers where on the right side.

    This bankroll precent thing is different from what I'm doing now. I came up with the number $150-180 a parlay based on the amount id get back on a win. Usually that would put me in the $400 to $700 range back depending on the odds of the 2 teams.

    Someone in the other thread said 2.5% and another person said 5% Max per bet. You are saying 2%, I started doing the math and a 10k bankroll would be enough to bet the amounts that I'm already comfortable betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    These threads are very very funny
    Hahaa, little help though!

    How do I edit the thread title to :

    "Can we talk about losses?"

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    Only mods can edit titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    Only mods can edit titles.
    Contact Eddy Munny
    Thanks!

    I just signed up for Youwager through the link in this website, but I'm not impressed at all by their limited goal total selections in their soccer.

    Gonna try and see what heritage has. Any good book recommendations Jay?

    And who is Eddy? Apologies for the ignorance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    I've played so many that I know the days that I won't win. My schedule for soccer is Tuesday, Friday morning, Saturday, and Sunday.

    All my betting records over time clearly shows that when I play any days besides those, I expose myself to awful match-up and bad lines or I miss goal lines on mostly on days outside of my schedule.

    I talk about the importance of those dates so much that my girl will say to me " what are you doing betting this day, you said you should never bet this day"

    Selfcontrol and ego are costing me that war you mentioned. I'm winning battles for 10* or 20* or 30* what I start with in 2 or 3 days, but I'm losing the long term war now big time.
    learn to listen to that inner voice...if it is not your day and you can see that early on, step back and walk away and find something else to do with your day...there is always tomorrow, remember that.

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    Betdsi is good.
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    What is your earnings or losses from sports betting since you placed your 1st bet

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    Start by not booking flights to Singapore to place high risk parlays lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    What is your earnings or losses from sports betting since you placed your 1st bet
    5dimes tracks that right!?

    Let me check what my account there says

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    My 5dimes totals are disappointing yall:

    Risk:$27,650.96

    Payed out: $26,150.77

    I'm in the red lifetime at 5 dimes.

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    My attempts total win through these parlays has been:$60,711.45

    Meaning I've only taken $26,150.77 out of a possible $60,711.45 in 98% parlay bets.

    Those are New York Jets numbers at 5dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    My attempts total win through these parlays has been:$60,711.45

    Meaning I've only taken $26,150.77 out of a possible $60,711.45 in 98% parlay bets.

    Those are New York Jets numbers at 5dimes
    what about how much u have deposited vs cashed out those are the important numbers its hard be a pro sports bettor most people lose more they win maybe ur better off being a rec bet what u can afford

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    what about how much u have deposited vs cashed out those are the important numbers its hard be a pro sports bettor most people lose more they win maybe ur better off being a rec bet what u can afford
    I've made $27,650.96 in my own money wagers at 5dimes but I guess that is counting winnings too. I don't know how much I've cashed out and put back honestly.

    However, this is saying that I'm at least $1500 in the hole at 5 dimes

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    where u from? always wanted to live that european lifestyle country to country

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    where u from? always wanted to live that european lifestyle country to country
    I'm from Nyc. Never been to Europe, just Asia, Africa, and South America.

    I imagine only certain places in Europe would allow me to live okay winning small amounts

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    Heritage Sportsbook seems to have the same layout as Wagerweb.com sportsbook. Are they the same?

    Which is the better book with faster payout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jts1207 View Post
    Start by not booking flights to Singapore to place high risk parlays lol
    They block you from viewing the SingaporePools. Com website if you are not in Singapore, but if you use a vpn and check out the odds they give, you'd be disgusted. It is a sportsbook run by the Singapore government (yikes) and for me it is easily the worst sportsbook in the world, with the only positive being they pay you as soon as you win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    My attempts total win through these parlays has been:$60,711.45

    Meaning I've only taken $26,150.77 out of a possible $60,711.45 in 98% parlay bets.

    Those are New York Jets numbers at 5dimes
    always forward, never back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    Betdsi is good.
    Isnt that one of SBR's top sponsored books?

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    If your willing to leave the country pinnacle is a must.

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    Never ever talk about losses it’s a golden rule out a forum

    Pinnacle very easy to play from the US through a broker and bitcoin

    Amateurs don’t know how to play at restricted books

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    JJ you should mentor this kid......show him the ways of a professional gambler

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    ur from nyc and choose go singapore to make big bets instead of las vegas or canada yah u shouldnt be a pro gambler

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    This kid could be going down a path of disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    ur from nyc and choose go singapore to make big bets instead of las vegas or canada yah u shouldnt be a pro gambler
    Bahamas 2.5 hour flights and they have a cantor book at Atlantis and will hill at the bahamar. Kid can't be too bright to fly to Singapore to gamble

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