[homie1975]

I believe the markets did very well during the Bush I administration.

Stock market shitt the bed under W. Look it up my friend

[HockeyRocks]

U.S. stocks fall as China wants more clarity before signing Sleazebags Phase One deal. No surprise here...

[reigle9]

box, run me through your day

hour-by-hour, it would be fascinating to me

i'll take a shot (and adjust these times to the incel life schedule you're on)

8am - captain crunch in the leftover cereal milk from the prior feeding

9am to noon - beating off to star wars porn, but cant finish cause your pecker is broken, really frustrating time

after giving up trying to like girls until 3pm - nap, this is key to your incel life of playing video games until sun up

3pm - check welfare benefits and get pissed off you dont get enough, never once consider getting a job

330 - cheeto lunch and another nap, being awake is fukkin exhausting

7pm (sundown) - up all night playing video games with other 12yo boys

sound about right? fukkin uncanny, isnt it?

[chico2663]

U.S. stocks fall as China wants more clarity before signing Sleazebags Phase One deal. No surprise here...

stocks are going to take a shit after isis does there damage.

[reigle9]

their, you brokedikk hater

if you cant understand things that are taught in literally 2nd fukking grade, how can you think it's possible to understand that 2+2 isnt potato?

[chico2663]

reigel you live in your mom's house and you are calling someone broke dikk?

Most trump lovers are broke dickk

[reigle9]

chico, i know you still think this is 1999 but it's 2019

[homie1975]

let's try to stay on point Fellas and help each other figure this thing out.

damn "Jina" has some leverage now due to impeachment talk and 2020 election less than 13 mos away. why would they be motivated to make a trade deal at this juncture? they are probably not. they will try and drag this thing out for the next year. personally, i am fine with that as i am long term investor and would rather average down my positions when the thing drops.

[reigle9]

sorry

[homie1975]

sorry

haha i was not singling you out REIGLE.

what's the play here? do we see another Q4 drop similar to last year's freefall?

[reigle9]

i dont pretend to know things that i dont

[chico2663]

let's try to stay on point Fellas and help each other figure this thing out.

damn "Jina" has some leverage now due to impeachment talk and 2020 election less than 13 mos away. why would they be motivated to make a trade deal at this juncture? they are probably not. they will try and drag this thing out for the next year. personally, i am fine with that as i am long term investor and would rather average down my positions when the thing drops.

have 3 stocks that need the deal.
swks and tsm both deal with the i 5. Also i think p&g could use it.

[chico2663]

let's try to stay on point Fellas and help each other figure this thing out.

damn "Jina" has some leverage now due to impeachment talk and 2020 election less than 13 mos away. why would they be motivated to make a trade deal at this juncture? they are probably not. they will try and drag this thing out for the next year. personally, i am fine with that as i am long term investor and would rather average down my positions when the thing drops.

i'm 56 so don't have that much time.

[DrunkHorseplayer]

Stock market shitt the bed under W. Look it up my friend

W is Bush II, HW is Bush I.

[homie1975]

W is Bush II, HW is Bush I.

"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.

i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.

[jt315]

U.S. stocks fall as China wants more clarity before signing Sleazebags Phase One deal. No surprise here...

Any updates today Box of Rocks ?

[guitarjosh]

"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.

i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

[vitterd]

Any updates today Box of Rocks ?

Stay in your lane king mush. You see what happens when you speak?

[homie1975]

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

hmmmmmm.......tough to imagine a sitting president being boatraced like that when the market has been up his entire term.

then again, he was elected in Nov 1988 just 13 mos after the market completely crashed in Oct 1987 so i guess there was only one way to go and that was up? all boats rise with the tide, and the tide had to turn even if a monkey was prez?

"read my lips...." must've crushed him.

[guitarjosh]

hmmmmmm.......tough to imagine a sitting president being boatraced like that when the market has been up his entire term.

then again, he was elected in Nov 1988 just 13 mos after the market completely crashed in Oct 1987 so i guess there was only one way to go and that was up? all boats rise with the tide, and the tide had to turn even if a monkey was prez?

"read my lips...." must've crushed him.

We had a mild recession in 1990, and unemployment tends to peak 2 - 2.5 years after the recession starts, which was right around election day 1992.

[MinnesotaFats]

hmmmmmm.......tough to imagine a sitting president being boatraced like that when the market has been up his entire term.

then again, he was elected in Nov 1988 just 13 mos after the market completely crashed in Oct 1987 so i guess there was only one way to go and that was up? all boats rise with the tide, and the tide had to turn even if a monkey was prez?

"read my lips...." must've crushed him.

No....Ross Perot ran to the RIGHT of Bush, took 19 million votes and allowed Clinton to flip 22 STATES.

If Perot doesn't run HW carrys 40 STATES. Instead we got Clinton with 43% of the general vote, winning 28 states within the margin of Perots capacity and 26 states by less than 5% which, if one looks at the Perot effect, suggests HW could have won up to 44 States.

By far the biggest disappointment of 3rd party politics since Perot ran as a fiscal conservative and Clinton's small welfare reforms were offset by the banking and lending policies that lead to the expansion of credit to poor people, which was the biggest disaster for this country ever, and all us taxpayers are still paying for that now and for the foreseeable future (try retiring when you cant earn interest income due to low rates).

[chico2663]

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

wrong. he was the best for first 32 months but stocks shit the bed his last year.

[chico2663]

No....Ross Perot ran to the RIGHT of Bush, took 19 million votes and allowed Clinton to flip 22 STATES.

If Perot doesn't run HW carrys 40 STATES. Instead we got Clinton with 43% of the general vote, winning 28 states within the margin of Perots capacity and 26 states by less than 5% which, if one looks at the Perot effect, suggests HW could have won up to 44 States.

By far the biggest disappointment of 3rd party politics since Perot ran as a fiscal conservative and Clinton's small welfare reforms were offset by the banking and lending policies that lead to the expansion of credit to poor people, which was the biggest disaster for this country ever, and all us taxpayers are still paying for that now and for the foreseeable future (try retiring when you cant earn interest income due to low rates).

wrong again big boy. While clinton did push for more home involvement.Before w a home loan went into foreclosure after 4 months. W went before the congress and switched it to a year? How do I know this? Because my business partner and i had the h.u.d. business in s.w.ohio,northern ky and west indiana. We did the clean ups,boarding of windows,replacing roofs and winterizing houses. Had that during w's presidency. My business partner is still in business. I had to leave because of health issues.

[chico2663]

No....Ross Perot ran to the RIGHT of Bush, took 19 million votes and allowed Clinton to flip 22 STATES.

If Perot doesn't run HW carrys 40 STATES. Instead we got Clinton with 43% of the general vote, winning 28 states within the margin of Perots capacity and 26 states by less than 5% which, if one looks at the Perot effect, suggests HW could have won up to 44 States.

By far the biggest disappointment of 3rd party politics since Perot ran as a fiscal conservative and Clinton's small welfare reforms were offset by the banking and lending policies that lead to the expansion of credit to poor people, which was the biggest disaster for this country ever, and all us taxpayers are still paying for that now and for the foreseeable future (try retiring when you cant earn interest income due to low rates).

I loved poppa. My brother has 3 different pics taken with him and barbara.One in his fireman outfit, another when he was working at continental and some place in htn in the 3rd. Poppa was the last decent president in my opinion. Even if he was a globalist.

[guitarjosh]

wrong. he was the best for first 32 months but stocks shit the bed his last year.

S&P 500 from 1-20-1989 until election day 1992.

[chico2663]

talking about poppa.
S&P 500 in the first 678 trading days of each presidency

Ronald Reagan
+29%

George H.W. Bush
+35%

Bill Clinton
+34%

George W. Bush
-23%

Barack Obama
+44%

Donald Trump
+31%

[chico2663]

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...ent/index.html



there you go josh. not going to argue with you

[guitarjosh]

talking about poppa.
S&P 500 in the first 678 trading days of each presidency

Ronald Reagan
+29%

George H.W. Bush
+35%

Bill Clinton
+34%

George W. Bush
-23%

Barack Obama
+44%

Donald Trump
+31%

Me too, the guy who became president 1-20-1989 and lost the election on 11-3-1992. Election day closed down 1.5% from the all time high.

[chico2663]

stock market was down second year of bush. Don't need a fake photo because i invested then.

[chico2663]

Me too, the guy who became president 1-20-1989 and lost the election on 11-3-1992. Election day closed down 1.5% from the all time high.

josh his 2nd year was down. no matter how you want to play it . he was down 2nd and 4th year.

[guitarjosh]

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...ent/index.html



there you go josh. not going to argue with you

That doesn't contradict anything I say. I'm claiming that the S&P 500 was within 2% of an all time high on election day 1992, and you're claiming it's not. The chart I posted says I'm right, as usual.

[guitarjosh]

josh his 2nd year was down. no matter how you want to play it . he was down 2nd and 4th year.

Yes, his 2nd year was down, his 4th year the market was at an all time high. Election day was less than 2% from the ATH.

[chico2663]

Dow Jones Industrial Average - Historical Annual Data
Year	Average Closing Price	Year Open	Year High	Year Low	Year Close	Annual % Change
2019	26,018.97	23,346.24	27,359.16	22,686.22	27,001.98	15.75%
2018	25,046.86	24,824.01	26,828.39	21,792.20	23,327.46	-5.63%
2017	21,750.20	19,881.76	24,837.51	19,732.40	24,719.22	25.08%
2016	17,927.11	17,148.94	19,974.62	15,660.18	19,762.60	13.42%
2015	17,587.03	17,832.99	18,312.39	15,666.44	17,425.03	-2.23%
2014	16,777.69	16,441.35	18,053.71	15,372.80	17,823.07	7.52%
2013	15,009.52	13,412.55	16,576.66	13,328.85	16,576.66	26.50%
2012	12,966.44	12,397.38	13,610.15	12,101.46	13,104.14	7.26%
2011	11,957.57	11,670.75	12,810.54	10,655.30	12,217.56	5.53%
2010	10,668.58	10,583.96	11,585.38	9,686.48	11,577.51	11.02%
2009	8,885.65	9,034.69	10,548.51	6,547.05	10,428.05	18.82%
2008	11,244.06	13,043.96	13,058.20	7,552.29	8,776.39	-33.84%
2007	13,178.26	12,474.52	14,164.53	12,050.41	13,264.82	6.43%
2006	11,409.78	10,847.41	12,510.57	10,667.39	12,463.15	16.29%
2005	10,546.66	10,729.43	10,940.55	10,012.36	10,717.50	-0.61%
2004	10,315.51	10,409.85	10,854.54	9,749.99	10,783.01	3.15%
2003	9,006.64	8,607.52	10,453.92	7,524.06	10,453.92	25.32%
2002	9,214.85	10,073.40	10,635.25	7,286.27	8,341.63	-16.76%
2001	10,199.29	10,646.15	11,337.92	8,235.81	10,021.57	-7.10%
2000	10,729.38	11,357.51	11,722.98	9,796.03	10,787.99	-6.17%
1999	10,481.56	9,184.27	11,497.12	9,120.67	11,497.12	25.22%
1998	8,630.76	7,965.00	9,374.27	7,539.07	9,181.43	16.10%
1997	7,447.01	6,442.49	8,259.30	6,391.70	7,908.30	22.64%
1996	5,739.63	5,177.45	6,560.91	5,032.94	6,448.27	26.01%
1995	4,494.28	3,838.48	5,216.47	3,832.08	5,117.12	33.45%
1994	3,794.22	3,756.60	3,978.36	3,593.35	3,834.44	2.14%
1993	3,524.92	3,309.20	3,794.33	3,242.00	3,754.09	13.72%
1992	3,284.08	3,172.40	3,413.20	3,136.60	3,301.11	4.17%
1991	2,929.04	2,610.64	3,168.83	2,470.30	3,168.83	20.32%
1990	2,679.45	2,810.15	2,999.75	2,365.10	2,633.66	-4.34%
1989	2,510.33	2,144.64	2,791.41	2,144.64	2,753.20	26.96%
1988	2,061.48	2,015.25	2,183.50	1,879.14	2,168.57	11.85%
1987	2,277.53	1,927.31	2,722.42	1,738.74	1,938.83	2.26%
1986	1,793.10	1,537.73	1,955.57	1,502.29	1,895.95	22.58%
1985	1,327.99	1,198.87	1,553.10	1,184.96	1,546.67	27.66%

[guitarjosh]

Dow Jones Industrial Average - Historical Annual Data
Year	Average Closing Price	Year Open	Year High	Year Low	Year Close	Annual % Change
2019	26,018.97	23,346.24	27,359.16	22,686.22	27,001.98	15.75%
2018	25,046.86	24,824.01	26,828.39	21,792.20	23,327.46	-5.63%
2017	21,750.20	19,881.76	24,837.51	19,732.40	24,719.22	25.08%
2016	17,927.11	17,148.94	19,974.62	15,660.18	19,762.60	13.42%
2015	17,587.03	17,832.99	18,312.39	15,666.44	17,425.03	-2.23%
2014	16,777.69	16,441.35	18,053.71	15,372.80	17,823.07	7.52%
2013	15,009.52	13,412.55	16,576.66	13,328.85	16,576.66	26.50%
2012	12,966.44	12,397.38	13,610.15	12,101.46	13,104.14	7.26%
2011	11,957.57	11,670.75	12,810.54	10,655.30	12,217.56	5.53%
2010	10,668.58	10,583.96	11,585.38	9,686.48	11,577.51	11.02%
2009	8,885.65	9,034.69	10,548.51	6,547.05	10,428.05	18.82%
2008	11,244.06	13,043.96	13,058.20	7,552.29	8,776.39	-33.84%
2007	13,178.26	12,474.52	14,164.53	12,050.41	13,264.82	6.43%
2006	11,409.78	10,847.41	12,510.57	10,667.39	12,463.15	16.29%
2005	10,546.66	10,729.43	10,940.55	10,012.36	10,717.50	-0.61%
2004	10,315.51	10,409.85	10,854.54	9,749.99	10,783.01	3.15%
2003	9,006.64	8,607.52	10,453.92	7,524.06	10,453.92	25.32%
2002	9,214.85	10,073.40	10,635.25	7,286.27	8,341.63	-16.76%
2001	10,199.29	10,646.15	11,337.92	8,235.81	10,021.57	-7.10%
2000	10,729.38	11,357.51	11,722.98	9,796.03	10,787.99	-6.17%
1999	10,481.56	9,184.27	11,497.12	9,120.67	11,497.12	25.22%
1998	8,630.76	7,965.00	9,374.27	7,539.07	9,181.43	16.10%
1997	7,447.01	6,442.49	8,259.30	6,391.70	7,908.30	22.64%
1996	5,739.63	5,177.45	6,560.91	5,032.94	6,448.27	26.01%
1995	4,494.28	3,838.48	5,216.47	3,832.08	5,117.12	33.45%
1994	3,794.22	3,756.60	3,978.36	3,593.35	3,834.44	2.14%
1993	3,524.92	3,309.20	3,794.33	3,242.00	3,754.09	13.72%
1992	3,284.08	3,172.40	3,413.20	3,136.60	3,301.11	4.17%
1991	2,929.04	2,610.64	3,168.83	2,470.30	3,168.83	20.32%
1990	2,679.45	2,810.15	2,999.75	2,365.10	2,633.66	-4.34%
1989	2,510.33	2,144.64	2,791.41	2,144.64	2,753.20	26.96%
1988	2,061.48	2,015.25	2,183.50	1,879.14	2,168.57	11.85%
1987	2,277.53	1,927.31	2,722.42	1,738.74	1,938.83	2.26%
1986	1,793.10	1,537.73	1,955.57	1,502.29	1,895.95	22.58%
1985	1,327.99	1,198.87	1,553.10	1,184.96	1,546.67	27.66%

Thanks for proving my point. 1992 the DJIA finished higher by over 4% and hit the all time high.

[chico2663]

josh learn to read a graph. his gains were in 2003. in 2004 it was only up around 4 %.In 2003 he did a tax cut and businesses bought back their stock. Just like trump did. Bush was called the jobs act. Please do some due diligence before making another dumb ass statement. Just because your parents told you something people that worked and paid taxes at that time can tell you better. AND NO YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN!