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    Barometric pressure is the key to MLB o/u.

    I'm so close in my research!!! I'll share when verdict comes out.

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    please hurry
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    I always thought the edge was towards the team... with the bigger bats?

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    Global warming will help bettors.

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    This is the laws of physics here.

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    where are you doing your research at? i'm interested in this for sure. any edge is good. looking forward to what you find out

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    good luck guy

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    its not complicated

    higher humidity equals balls flying further

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    Factors effecting distance added to a 400 foot fly ball to center field:
    Condition- Distance added

    1000 feet of altitude +7 Feet
    10 degrees of air temp +4 Feet
    10 degrees of ball temp +4 Feet
    1 inch drop in Barometer +6 Feet
    1 mph following wind +3 Feet
    Ball at 100 % Humidity -30 Feet
    Pitch, +5 mph +3.5 Feet
    Hit along foul line +11 Feet
    Aluminum Bat +30 Feet
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    I always thought there could be a edge betting baseball totals depending on what the moon phase was at a giving period.
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    The chart below shows a sample of balls hit at different speeds and angles under different conditions of temperature, humidity, and altitude. Notice that even a 5 percent difference in drag can make the difference between a fly ball and a home run.

    Trajectory Number Speed (ft/sec) Angle (deg.) Distance in feet given standard temp (70 degree) and pressure (sea level). Vacuum -10% air density (hot and humid) -5% air density (hot and humid) +5% air density (cold and dry) +10% air density (cold and dry) 'head' wind 'tail' wind
    Range in feet
    1 161 45 400 812 419 409 391 382 363 434
    2 140 35 341 577 354 348 335 329 310 370
    3 120 60 236 390 245 241 232 228 186 282
    4 100 25 192 239 196 194 190 188 166 216
    5 75 55 133 165 136 134 131 130 91 171

    Trajectory number:
    1 = home run
    2 = catchable flyball
    3 = catchable flyball
    4 =line drive
    5 = pop-up
    Table based on initial figures provided by:

    Watts, Robert G., and A. Terry Bahill. Keep Your Eye on the Ball: The Science and Folklore of Baseball. New York: W.H. Freeman and Co., 1990.

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    i'm doing research to look into the number of heavy flow menstruating female fans in the stands inside dome games effects the umpire strike zones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    its not complicated

    higher humidity equals balls flying further
    That worked for awhile in colorado until they started storing the baseballs in the right room temperature before the game.Colorado is still a hitters park though just not as high as it once was. Boy do I miss the hitters like McGuire before the steriod scandal broke out.

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    For those interested, here is a link for how weather affects player performance, not just how far the ball travels:

    http://www.baseballvmi.com/predictin...sports-weather

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    Your helping out big time.

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    Is this an edge?

    I'm just wondering if oddsmakers take this into account.

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    A wealth of information!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BChrisB View Post
    I'm just wondering if oddsmakers take this into account.
    IMHO, odds makers base 85% of their lines for totals, on the starting pitcher. The proof of this is simple, virtually all second half totals lines for baseball are 3.5 runs. Only if the game total is 10 or more will the second half line go up to 4 or 4.5 if the game is at Coors.

    Just my 2 cents

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    I'm working with this kid right now from MIT he's gonna make me a baseball model I'm curious to see how he does.

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    You still have to hit the ball hard in the air. Historically betting unders fair way better than overs

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    It would take literally 30 minutes of your time to cap 1 game a day... and there are what?? 14-15 games a day?

    Factor in... with what kind of edge are you getting with so called formula. Possibly low grade....

    To even have an honest approach... without going insane in your own daily life... you'd need to take a look at 1 or 2 major things... and that's it to cap all the MLB games on the board.

    No way you could look for 15 thing for each game. You'd go insane. Possibly force the play as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post

    Factors effecting distance added to a 400 foot fly ball to center field:
    Condition- Distance added

    1000 feet of altitude +7 Feet
    10 degrees of air temp +4 Feet
    10 degrees of ball temp +4 Feet
    1 inch drop in Barometer +6 Feet
    1 mph following wind +3 Feet
    Ball at 100 % Humidity -30 Feet
    Pitch, +5 mph +3.5 Feet
    Hit along foul line +11 Feet
    Aluminum Bat +30 Feet
    very interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    its not complicated

    higher humidity equals balls flying further
    humidity doesnt just change the game of baseball it also changes the ice in hockey games. The times it happens the most is during the month of October. There has been known to have had problems with the Columbus Bluejackets Nationwide Arena before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    It would take literally 30 minutes of your time to cap 1 game a day... and there are what?? 14-15 games a day?

    Factor in... with what kind of edge are you getting with so called formula. Possibly low grade....

    To even have an honest approach... without going insane in your own daily life... you'd need to take a look at 1 or 2 major things... and that's it to cap all the MLB games on the board.

    No way you could look for 15 thing for each game. You'd go insane. Possibly force the play as well....
    If your going to be gambling with real money dont you think you should be spending more time than fifteen minutes to handicapping to dedicate yourself to winning a bet. Let me say this most people spend more time watching the games than handicapping and expect to be entertained and compensated for it with cash.It doesnt work that way. Thats why most people lose. If you want to have winning bet consider every possible outcome even the crazy most outlandish ones.
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    There's human factors that have to be accounted for with regard to weather. As one who played up thru the high school level in the Midwest, I've played plenty of games in sub 40 degree weather, and quite a few in 90 degree weather. I pitched a little but was mostly a 1B and outfielder. Hitters HATE cold weather. I know its nothing new but it isn't how far the ball will fly. It's harder to get loose. You can be loose before the game, but be in the field for a half inning with no ball hit to you, and you aren't loose anymore. Pitchers and catchers are staying active much more, and more likely to stay relatively warm and keep the blood flowing. Also, many position players have some sort of additional clothing layers underneath the uniform to stay warm. They are getting better at making those, but there still is a little bit of restriction of movement, which could inhibit bat speed.

    And when its 90 degrees and humid? Those same positions are the ones working the hardest and most likely to be fatigued earlier. Pitchers and catchers can easily lose 10 lbs or more of water weight during a hot, humid day. Hitters are loose the entire game. Flexibility is important to hitting.

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