1. 01-05-17 01:36 PM #1
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    Lions can beat Seattle?

    This Seattle team isn't the same team. They have no Earl Thomas, their best overall player. They have no Tyler Lockett. They have no running game. Thomas Rawls is a clown. Russell Wilson looks slower. Jimmy Graham hasn't been in the gameplan all year. Richard Sherman looks a bit washed up. They still have some beasts with Wagner, Bennet, Avril, and Chancellor.

    What about on offense? Doug Baldwin sucks imo. They honestly have no one except Graham.

    I can see Marvin Jones blowing right by Sherman. He's quicker, faster. Golden Tate should have a big game as well. I imagine Stafford throwing it all around the field in this one.

    If Detroit's O line can hold up, it's gonna be a long day for Seattle. Detroit's defense just needs to contain the pocket against Wilson and not let him escape. Seattle's receivers aren't good enough to make plays once you remove Baldwin from the equation with Slay.

    Seattle almost lost to the worst offensive team of the past decade last week, without Carlos Hyde. I trust Stafford way more than Russell Wilson in a 1 game elimination. He has the ability to sling it accurately and Wilson does not.
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  2. 01-05-17 01:38 PM #2
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    I think the Lions will win.
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  3. 01-05-17 01:41 PM #3
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    Lions have played well vs. Seattle last few times - and those Seattle teams were much better than current.
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  4. 01-05-17 01:43 PM #4
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    Seattle pulled Wilson in the 3rd quarter against sf when it looked like Atlanta was gonna clinch the 2 seed

    You do make some good points though and the +8 looks viable
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  5. 01-05-17 01:45 PM #5
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    Something to keep in mind though, this will be just the 3rd outdoor game Stafford will have played in all year. He lost the 2 previous ones (@GB and @NYG)
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  6. 01-05-17 01:47 PM #6
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    anyone can beat anyone in the nfl

    If you do not think that I would quit gambling today
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  7. 01-05-17 02:01 PM #7
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    Detroit has play good football in there last 3 games against the Giants, Dallas, Green Bay in the first half but in the second half they got tired and just couldnt hangin there...Seattle has been down this playoff road.... they will be ready. but my
    not cover....
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  8. 01-05-17 02:14 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by rizespor View Post
    Something to keep in mind though, this will be just the 3rd outdoor game Stafford will have played in all year. He lost the 2 previous ones (@GB and @NYG)
    He played in Chicago.

    Seattle is beat up now, but Detroit can't run and Stafford has the finger/hand issue. The Lions D can make it interesting for a half or so.
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  9. 01-05-17 02:16 PM #9
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    Stafford is 0-2 in playoffs and 5-45 record against teams finishing the season with a winning record.

    I live in Michigan and have watched this shitty team for way too long to know that they will find a way to lose.
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  10. 01-05-17 02:20 PM #10
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    It isn't difficult to get to Wilson that Seattle o line is really poor, amazed Wilsons knee lasted the season. He hasn't really ran the ball this season either.

    Seattle don't have a running game but neither do the Lions, that rookie has done a good job his last two games but this is the best run D in their house I see him getting his bell rung a few times.

    I'd like to see the Lions win and 8 points or whatever it is seems a bit much but Stafford is going to have to play extremely well (no reason he can't even with that banged up finger).
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  11. 01-05-17 02:24 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    He played in Chicago.

    Seattle is beat up now, but Detroit can't run and Stafford has the finger/hand issue. The Lions D can make it interesting for a half or so.
    You're right. But he lost that one too. 0-3 in outdoor games this year plus supposed to be pretty cold on Saturday. ML is probably asking a lot here but backdoor cover definitely in play with such a large number
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  12. 01-05-17 02:26 PM #12
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    Weather and home field will play a factor in this game.
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  13. 01-05-17 02:28 PM #13
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    Any given Saturday!
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  14. 01-05-17 02:36 PM #14
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    I just can't.
    Russell Wilson will get his calls, Pete Carroll will sniff out a win somehow,
    Lions will find a way to lose...somehow. and I don't think Zack Zenner
    will do anywhere near as well in Seattle. This puts it all on Stafford
    with his bum middle finger against an organization which can pressure
    the quarterback.
    I'll probably dig out a Seattle prop bet, not sure which one yet.
    No real value on taking the Seahawks ATS or ML either.
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  15. 01-05-17 02:40 PM #15
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    Seachickens win this game then out.
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  16. 01-05-17 02:47 PM #16
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    No one believes in Zach zenner? The best white running back as Michael Bennett put it? A white guy playing a skill position that relies on speed and dexterity in modern day sports?

    I mean Benny Goodman did it with jazz, Larry Bird with basketball and Michael Jackson with pop. Ok fine Marshall Mathers with hip hop.

    Anyone betting on the next team that has a white player starting at cornerback?
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  17. 01-05-17 03:00 PM #17
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    It is difficult to give 7 or more points in a playoff game unless you are talking the New England Patsies. The rest of the teams are simply too equal to give that many points. Pass on this game, but gun to head, take the Lions + 8.
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  18. 01-05-17 03:57 PM #18
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    Seattle the better team, Lions kinda suck.. I like Seahawks in this one.. Got a superbowl caliber QB in Russel that is running and healthy now playing at home in the playoffs.. Tough to bet against that..

    8 points is a lot though...
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    Time for that teaser
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  20. 01-05-17 05:13 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Seachickens win this game then out.
    I can see them beating Dallas but not Atlanta.
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  21. 01-05-17 05:15 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    I can see them beating Dallas but not Atlanta.
    I agree, Atlanta at home with some home cooked revenge on their minds and no Earl Thomas, tough road.
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  22. 01-05-17 05:16 PM #22
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    12th man and Stafford is a choke artist, no way you can back Lions in this game

    Under for me.

    I will be at the game FYI
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  23. 01-05-17 05:24 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    I think the Lions will win.
    Let's take them ML. Why not?
    Quote Originally Posted by rizespor View Post
    Something to keep in mind though, this will be just the 3rd outdoor game Stafford will have played in all year. He lost the 2 previous ones (@GB and @NYG)
    Good point
    Quote Originally Posted by RockBottom View Post
    He played in Chicago.

    Seattle is beat up now, but Detroit can't run and Stafford has the finger/hand issue. The Lions D can make it interesting for a half or so.
    Is his finger messed up? I haven't noticed on his spiral. Same accuracy just made bad decisions in the pocket past few games. When Stafford is on his game he is hard to beat. He can look like best qb in NFL for 2 quarters. Why not take 3 to 1 odds for that to happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by smith131 View Post
    Stafford is 0-2 in playoffs and 5-45 record against teams finishing the season with a winning record.

    I live in Michigan and have watched this shitty team for way too long to know that they will find a way to lose.
    I've lived here my whole life too and I expect us to lose these types of games. I'm looking for a way to tell myself we'll lose this one because I picked seattle before the year to meet New England again in the final, but I just can't see advantages for Seattle. Where are they? I seriously think Sherman will be exposed in this game. And if he starts a tantrum? The chemistry doesn't seem right here for sea.
    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Seattle the better team, Lions kinda suck.. I like Seahawks in this one.. Got a superbowl caliber QB in Russel that is running and healthy now playing at home in the playoffs.. Tough to bet against that..

    8 points is a lot though...
    Wilson hasn't looked healthy this year. Struggled too much this year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    12th man and Stafford is a choke artist, no way you can back Lions in this game

    Under for me.

    I will be at the game FYI
    Doesn't Stafford have the most 4th quarter comebacks in a single reg season than anyone in history? Not sure choke artist the right label
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  24. 01-05-17 05:49 PM #24
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    I trust Stafford way more than Russell Wilson in a 1 game elimination. He has the ability to sling it accurately and Wilson does not.

    Did u actually say that goat? Come on man Stafford....how many playoff wins does Stafford have? How long has he been in the league? End of discussion...I agree Wilson has looked slower but I definitely don't trust him more then Wilson...ziggy could be a problem for Wilson....I expect them to adjust since Thomas is gone I see way more blitzing going on Saturday by Seattle we will see.......I feel Seattle ml would be a winner but not betting that....we will see
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  25. 01-05-17 05:52 PM #25
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    Btw Stafford is 0-2 post season and Wilson is 7-3 please retract your statement goat
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  26. 01-05-17 06:01 PM #26
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    I think seattle wins in my honest opinion
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  27. 01-05-17 06:05 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    I think seattle wins in my honest opinion
    Oh cmon harry...Lol....
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  28. 01-05-17 06:08 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Btw Stafford is 0-2 post season and Wilson is 7-3 please retract your statement goat
    Didn't mean stafford is better, just right now I think he might be. Wilson hasn't look good at all this year. Did Newton look good this year? He is MVP.
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  29. 01-05-17 06:17 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    I trust Stafford way more than Russell Wilson in a 1 game elimination. He has the ability to sling it accurately and Wilson does not.
    Like how he played against the Dallas Cowboys in that last game that ment something to the Lions?.. Stafford played great in the first half, came out in the 2nd half and absolutely just stunk it up with interceptions and other bad throws...

    Russell Wilson won't do that at home.. Stafford probably will on the road again against another strong defense in Seattle.. Seattle might even cover the 8...
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  30. 01-05-17 07:15 PM #30
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    Detroit has been in most games this year they lost

    Watch out
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  31. 01-05-17 07:32 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Like how he played against the Dallas Cowboys in that last game that ment something to the Lions?.. Stafford played great in the first half, came out in the 2nd half and absolutely just stunk it up with interceptions and other bad throws...

    Russell Wilson won't do that at home.. Stafford probably will on the road again against another strong defense in Seattle.. Seattle might even cover the 8...
    I never even said that goat did
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  32. 01-05-17 09:41 PM #32
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    Sea gunna win, might be close but Under is my play
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  33. 01-05-17 09:46 PM #33
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    I could see the Lions covering quite easily

    Not gunna win though...

    BOL
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  34. 01-05-17 09:47 PM #34
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    This game looks like a Detroit ATS and Seattle ML.
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  35. 01-05-17 09:58 PM #35
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    oh my gosh lets hope not
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