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    Dan Kelly
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    Trump to wi the Presidency +180

    First off, NO POLITICS = I don't give a shit about politics, I don't care who's the next President, and I certainly don't care who you want to be the next President.

    In early October 2000, I said Al Gore would win the popular vote and W, Bush would win the electoral vote,
    In 2008 I said that Obama would easily beat John McCain.
    In 2012 I predicted the exact number of electoral votes that Obama would get.

    Back in February, I bet Trump to win the Republican nomination (see below).
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post25368631


    I am a self-proclaimed expert in American Presidential history, I have studied the American Presidency for many years - reading any and all materials on American Presidents. (I have read at least one biography on every President - and some were very hard to find, but I've read multiple biographies on many of them - Lincoln is the most, I've read at least 20 on him.) It's just something I enjoy - like gambling.

    Trump beats Hillary in November because she implodes. The Democrats will only have themselves to blame because if they'd nominated anyone else they'd have won easily.

    At +180 he is a great bet.


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    it is getting closer and closer even in swing states

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    Didn't know that about ya Dan, cool stuff! Are you looking to accept points action as well?

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    Good luck with that bet. It is definitely going to be interesting. He can't say anything stupid.

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    I can buy your claim about 2008 because that was easy; do you have any proof to back up your other two claims?

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    of all places CBS News (they love Hillary)

    Poll: Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton tied across battleground states
    September 18, 2016, 10:30 AM

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    Experts don't bet into +180 lines that were +350 at one point.

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    As a presidency history buff, you would know there hasn't been back to back Dem presidents for a long time.

    Along the lines of history, Dem policies do better with economics than Repub policies, but people are tired of
    one party after 8 years no matter how good the previous admin did. Think Bill Clinton.

    Another piece of history is, Ohio has picked over 80% of the past presidents. Hillary won Ohio.

    You have to admit the last couple of election cycles has thrown history out the window.

    From a betting perspective, the prices now are great for hedging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    it is getting closer and closer even in swing states
    Trump taking lead in swing states and in "blue" states. Odds reflect hesitation to call this election a wrap for a candidate that is so unusual and unpredictable - it reflects risk. I dont think Trump will be without some baked in risk until the very end, no matter how soundly his advisors handle him.

    I would venture, at this point, that Hillary is the risk. She is the one making gaffes and having health breakdowns. And, interestingly, were it not for the public having phone cams we would know none of it.

    If Trump doesn't fuk up in an obvious way in the first debate (one thing is certain - backers of each candidate will be saying the opponent fukked up) then it will be Hillary +180 the next morning.

    I maintain she's been the candidate lugging around liabilities from Day 1. OP was correct on how the Democrats fukked up. She went essentially unchallenged in the nomination process - had Biden (and/or Warren and another challenger or two) been on a debate stage with Hillary, her nonsense would have been front and center and the vetting process would have produced a better candidate. God knows what the Clintons did to intimidate others from running. Her party is paying that price today.
    Last edited by ByeShea; 09-18-16 at 10:35 AM.

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    I will wager points against you that Trump won't win. Give me a line.

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    If he wins the 1st debate its over and you win your bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Experts don't bet into +180 lines that were +350 at one point.
    I didn't like it at +350, I like it at +180. Time moves, facts change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I will wager points against you that Trump won't win. Give me a line.
    Says the guy with no betpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Kelly View Post
    Says the guy with no betpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If he wins the 1st debate its over and you win your bet

    Hillary may collapse again a day or two before 1st debate ... excuse to op-out

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    I can buy your claim about 2008 because that was easy; do you have any proof to back up your other two claims?
    Expecting crickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I will wager points against you that Trump won't win. Give me a line.
    Nah. Points are gay. 50,000 of them will buy you a pizza or something?

    The only value points have for me are to give kudos to posts.

    I think we both know the W or L on election day is stakes enough. Though with only so many days left I'd bet cash (with an Sbr approved book, of course) if I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeShea View Post
    Nah. Points are gay. 50,000 of them will buy you a pizza or something?

    The only value points have for me are to give kudos to posts.

    I think we both know the W or L on election day is stakes enough. Though with only so many days left I'd bet cash (with an Sbr approved book, of course) if I could.
    You are not a Pro. Can't wager with someone who can't pay me back. I don't care if Trump is the best candidate which is probably true. I want to make a wager against him with my points. Nothing wrong about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    I can buy your claim about 2008 because that was easy; do you have any proof to back up your other two claims?
    I won a contest here in 2012 on the number of electoral votes for Obama.
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...points-p9.html


    on the other 2 I got nothing. I used to often talk politics with my mom - she'd ask my opinion - and she heard all of those predictions, but she died a couple of years ago. In October 2000, when I told her about Bush winning the electoral vote and Gore winning the popular vote, she said "That can happen?!", and I said 'yeah ma, it's happened before'

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    My points are in the sportsbook. Give me a line. Will transfer immediately.
    I'm good - I got a big bet on it already - I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't.

    I never expect to win any bet, but I expect to win big dogs even less.

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    If you're good for a points bet, I'm willing to go with Trump losing at -180 for a substantial points bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If he wins the 1st debate its over and you win your bet
    Right, because Mitt won the 1st debate and still lost.

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    Dan Kelly a sharp mofo.

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    Opie put some odds for Trump in the sportsbook. We need to bet this shit.

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    Trump a sure bet. The people will speak. We want change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsamazing777 View Post
    Trump a sure bet. The people will speak. We want change
    You need $100 to turn Pro for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    You need $100 to turn Pro for sure.
    no need for points, but good comeback lol

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    LOSER - I got this backwards - Trump imploded, not Hillary. My regret and apology. Bad handicapping, the odds swayed me - I am a sucker for a live dog.

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    If anybody wants +600 on trump pm me

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    you'll be able to get trump at somewhere around +1200 within a week or two
    ship is sinking faster than the titanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceBRUCEbruce View Post
    you'll be able to get trump at somewhere around +1200 within a week or two
    ship is sinking faster than the titanic
    Unless the genuine truth surfaces about "sweet-Hillary?"

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