[rkelly110]

How naive can one be. Even my wife who thinks everything is on the up & up
knows that one of the biggest contituencies of the democrats are illegal aliens
& those voting from the grave.

Remember when John Kennedy's father called up Mayor Daley worried that Illinois
would go with Nixon as the down state votes showed Nixon leading by 300,000
votes & Daley assured the patriarch of the family by the famous quote "How many
votes do you want to win by' & sure enough when the 'Cook County Crooks' worked
their magic Kennedy won by 8,000 votes.

Another Democratic trick is the shenanigans that go on in ghetto communities,
take E St Louis Illinois for example a city 98% black.

It is a particular problem with our voter registration systems across the USA that the
voting roles are so filled with ineligible names that we aren't sure how many voters
really live in any particular district. East St. Louis is no different. In fact, East St.
Louis seems to have more voters registered in its district than it even has voting population.
According to the 2010 Census, East St. Louis had a total population of 27,006.
The population for those 18 and over, or those eligible to vote, was 19,098. With
22,000 registered voters, it seems to be a numerical impossibility for East St. Louis'
Board of Elections to have an accurate or legal list of register voters.

East St. Louis is not alone with this problem. It is a problem all across the nation.
I hope you don't mind me keeping you on your toes about these matters.

From the Kennedy days until now is a whole different ball game. Everything is electronic.

Now if you want to talk voter fraud from the rights perspective, GW winning FL while his brother was Gov
was the hugest fix in history. Throwing out huge amounts of punch cards that weren't punched the whole
way through (so they say) to give GW the win.

You failed to rebuke my other post which showed how the right is manipulating the vote. Instead of behind
the back voter fraud which you claim the Dems are doing, the right makes laws right out in the open.

As I've said in another post, why? Electoral college decides the presidency anyway.

[khicks26]

RT is based in Washington and funded by the Kremlin. That is common knowledge.

There is not a single politician in the world that has been more heavily scrutinized than Clinton, not one. Clinton bashing is big money, Abby knows that. I saw her youtube video, some was ok, but a lot seems like the same stuff you see in right wing documentaries like Clinton Cash, which have been debunked. She made the video while at RT, correct?

No she was not at RT at the time. I never watch any of the right wing bashing of Clinton, so I couldn't tell what they are saying. Mostly because what I see on Fox News is garbage & they can't be trusted.

But when the criticism is coming from the left about the left, I think it holds water. Abby's view of the Clinton's is the same as many left wing intellectuals. Who feel the Clinton's are center right politicians & not liberal at all.

Also Russia will tell you the truth about the American government, before the American government will. Think about it.

[surfinsandiego]

45th President of the United States of America, Donald J. Trump get used to it my friends

[Greget]

No she was not at RT at the time. I never watch any of the right wing bashing of Clinton, so I couldn't tell what they are saying. Mostly because what I see on Fox News is garbage & they can't be trusted.

But when the criticism is coming from the left about the left, I think it holds water. Abby's view of the Clinton's is the same as many left wing intellectuals. Who feel the Clinton's are center right politicians & not liberal at all.

Also Russia will tell you the truth about the American government, before the American government will. Think about it.

I'm not center right, and I don't think Clinton is center right, I am a progressive or liberal, whatever you prefer, I just believe in a different strategy than others on the "far left", a term I think is unfair. Change is slow. Clinton, and now Obama after 8 years of R obstruction know that. You have to compromise to get what you want, you have to accept half steps, its not for the impatient.

I still don't trust Russia, and the American Government is not a monolith, there are many parts to the government and they don't all agree, it's not like we have state sponsored media, like Russia. Our journalists aren't murdered for writing something negative about Bush, or Obama, or Clinton, or whoever. Putin and Trump are very very similar, that is what scares me. The fact that Putin is doing everything in his power to get Trump elected should say something.

[Mr KLC]

[DwightShrute]

[chico2663]

How come trump refuses to release his taxes? He released to get those casinos even though he was being audited at that time.

[pavyracer]

Trump will go back to work after election to make his bank account great again.

[Mr KLC]

How come trump refuses to release his taxes? He released to get those casinos even though he was being audited at that time.

Been waiting on Obama to release his school transcripts all these years. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Greget]

Funny because donald is trying to get out of the debates already...

[chico2663]

Been waiting on Obama to release his school transcripts all these years. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

since cruz was born out of country what does it matter where obama went to high school?Both had native born american mothers.

[Mr KLC]

since cruz was born out of country what does it matter where obama went to high school?Both had native born american mothers.

I would be curious to see if he got funding as a foreign student even though he was born in Hawaii.

[pavyracer]

Just think about it for a second if John McCain was elected in 2008.

We would have went to war with Iran, Russia and China at the same time.

People bash on Obama's accomplishments but if we had an incompetent lunatic in the White House like McCain we would be doomed now.

[dante1]

Been waiting on Obama to release his school transcripts all these years. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

why school transcripts? just curious. all presidential candidates have released their tax info. why are you interested in school transcripts. is it because you think he didn't go to Harvard? Is that it? Two different things mr KLC has nothing to do with goose and gander. American people expect tax info, why do you want transcripts. Obama did his tax info.

[pavyracer]

I would be curious to see if he got funding as a foreign student even though he was born in Hawaii.

It wouldn't show on the transcripts. Transcripts only show courses taken and grades.

[Mr KLC]

why school transcripts? just curious. all presidential candidates have released their tax info. why are you interested in school transcripts. is it because you think he didn't go to Harvard? Is that it? Two different things mr KLC has nothing to do with goose and gander. American people expect tax info, why do you want transcripts. Obama did his tax info.

I'd like to see on his school records as to whether he applied as a foreign student. What's the harm of that? He didn't mind showing the birth certificate from Hawaii. If you're innocent, there should be nothing to hide. A tax form has never really made the difference in whether someone votes for a candidate or not. If something was so bad about the tax returns, the IRS would have beaten the media to it years ago.

[Mr KLC]

It wouldn't show on the transcripts. Transcripts only show courses taken and grades.

Records, my bad.

[chico2663]

Records, my bad.

Ted cruz said as long as he was born to american mother it doesn't matter. Shame they didn't come to that accord during 1st obama term.

[Mr KLC]

Ted cruz said as long as he was born to american mother it doesn't matter. Shame they didn't come to that accord during 1st obama term.

Yeah, I was always under the assumption that if one of your parents is an American citizen that you are allowed to run for president. I thought that was a waste if energy pursuing that argument. I just remember seeing some documents somewhere that he had informed schools that he had been born in Kenya. If he had received any aid from that, it would constitute fraud.

[chico2663]

I am reading a book that is about stocks for dummies. There is a term called proforma which is a way that companies can hide facts from investors. The company that this book stated was the first to get sanctions was Trump Hotels. Trump paid his way out of being in trouble in texas and florida. They are taking the person in fla. to court but as long as greg abbott is gov. he won't indict himself. So if ANYONE is guilty of fraud it would be mr trump.

[Mr KLC]

I am reading a book that is about stocks for dummies. There is a term called proforma which is a way that companies can hide facts from investors. The company that this book stated was the first to get sanctions was Trump Hotels. Trump paid his way out of being in trouble in texas and florida. They are taking the person in fla. to court but as long as greg abbott is gov. he won't indict himself. So if ANYONE is guilty of fraud it would be mr trump.

If you are going to make it as high politically as these guys are, I'm sure all of them are guilty of fraud at one time or another, even by beloved Ronald Reagan.

[dante1]

I am reading a book that is about stocks for dummies. There is a term called proforma which is a way that companies can hide facts from investors. The company that this book stated was the first to get sanctions was Trump Hotels. Trump paid his way out of being in trouble in texas and florida. They are taking the person in fla. to court but as long as greg abbott is gov. he won't indict himself. So if ANYONE is guilty of fraud it would be mr trump.

when Trump said he can shot somebody and get away with it and not lose any voters he was correct, one of the few comments he has made that was 100% correct. these people don't care about anything he does or doesn't do. I have yet to hear one of them say about any one of his missteps...geez, I wish he wouldn't have said that. Nope, not when he made fun of a cripple, not when he said fck, not when they learned about his fraudulent school.

but these same exact people constantly moaned about how Obama lies, and the irony of that is according to all the fact checkers president Obama very seldom had "pants on fire" lies. This guy lies every time his mouth opens up. Not a word from these same people. lol

[chico2663]

sign of satan. hillary does it also. There was a thing that was the vision of guadelupe that said this is suppose to be the last pope. We are so screwed. If you believe in the bible

[khicks26]

I'm not center right, and I don't think Clinton is center right, I am a progressive or liberal, whatever you prefer, I just believe in a different strategy than others on the "far left", a term I think is unfair. Change is slow. Clinton, and now Obama after 8 years of R obstruction know that. You have to compromise to get what you want, you have to accept half steps, its not for the impatient.

I still don't trust Russia, and the American Government is not a monolith, there are many parts to the government and they don't all agree, it's not like we have state sponsored media, like Russia. Our journalists aren't murdered for writing something negative about Bush, or Obama, or Clinton, or whoever. Putin and Trump are very very similar, that is what scares me. The fact that Putin is doing everything in his power to get Trump elected should say something.

What your talking about is a very long discussion. I don't care to much for Hilary, Bill or Obama for many different reasons. Are they better than the nut bag Rep's, I guess so.

As for Trump, he is not the cause but a symptom of the neoliberal corporate control polices of both parties. I think Hilary will win & the next 4 years will be much of the same polices. This will give rise to a different Trump, as he has set the example of how its done. The next Trump will not be so stupid & bombastic & more of a threat. That's what scares me, because when capitalism no longer works for the greater good it turns to fascism to protect itself.

I am not saying Putin is this great fun loving guy. But he is not the tyrant the US press makes him out to be. Besides its not Russia who is the aggressor here, we are on their border. They see this as a threat & more than likely should.

Now if you think the US is this great spreader of peace & democracy. You really need to take a long hard look at our history & who runs things around here.

[lakerboy]

Khicks is a solid poster. Fair. Good guy.

[dante1]

Khicks is a solid poster. Fair. Good guy.

[15805]

From the Kennedy days until now is a whole different ball game. Everything is electronic.

Now if you want to talk voter fraud from the rights perspective, GW winning FL while his brother was Gov
was the hugest fix in history. Throwing out huge amounts of punch cards that weren't punched the whole
way through (so they say) to give GW the win.

You failed to rebuke my other post which showed how the right is manipulating the vote. Instead of behind
the back voter fraud which you claim the Dems are doing, the right makes laws right out in the open.

As I've said in another post, why? Electoral college decides the presidency anyway.

Now this is just the tip of the iceberg as all ghetto sections in inner cities have major voting problems but consider this!
By the way this is 50 years since Daley turned the Illinois electoral vote to Kennedy & even though everything as you say is electric it is not as you say 'is a whole different ball game.'

According to Philly.com, 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods – clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia –Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney.

Now I can see Democrats receiving 90 to 97% of the vote in the poor inner cities but 100% 19,000 to 0.
Out of all these 59 precints where I doubt that 59% of the voters didn't make it through high school one
would have to think that there would be a few voters who would pull the lever for Romney by mistake.

Now don't tell me this isn't proof of the serious problem of democrat voter manipulation. Philadelphia county
gave Obama a 400,000 vote edge & Obama only won all of Pennsylvania's electoral votes by 300,000.
Usually you come equipped with sensible rebuttals but in this thread your stance is as anemic as a Greget
response!

[15805]

Although Obama would have won anyway if a more significant candidate than Romney was
running & if these fun & games were eliminated the outcome may have been different!

[The Kraken]

I dont care how HRC wins, legitimate or not, I'll take it

[gopolks]

Like to know what the excuse will be when trump pulls out of the debates.

[Flashmo]

It's vintage Clinton, she was a fox in her prime.

you're definitely not a leg or a face man..Sh'e been a pig her whole life

[Dr.Gonzo]

I dont care how HRC wins, legitimate or not, I'll take it

[rkelly110]

Now this is just the tip of the iceberg as all ghetto sections in inner cities have major voting problems but consider this!
By the way this is 50 years since Daley turned the Illinois electoral vote to Kennedy & even though everything as you say is electric it is not as you say 'is a whole different ball game.'

According to Philly.com, 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods – clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia –Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney.

Now I can see Democrats receiving 90 to 97% of the vote in the poor inner cities but 100% 19,000 to 0.
Out of all these 59 precints where I doubt that 59% of the voters didn't make it through high school one
would have to think that there would be a few voters who would pull the lever for Romney by mistake.

Now don't tell me this isn't proof of the serious problem of democrat voter manipulation. Philadelphia county
gave Obama a 400,000 vote edge & Obama only won all of Pennsylvania's electoral votes by 300,000.
Usually you come equipped with sensible rebuttals but in this thread your stance is as anemic as a Greget
response!

Typical, attack the poster and not the context. When this is done, guess what, I win.

The presidency is determined by the electorate, not the popular vote. If Romney lost 19k to 0, what difference
does it make?

Paying off delegates like the Dems do is better than making laws if you want to win, right? Having said that,
Hillary wins. (tongue in cheek)

[khicks26]

This guy looks like those frog memes you post.

[klemopixx]

It doesn't matter what you vote, it's all fixed anyway. Remember Bush and the "hanging chads" controversy? It's all a game.