[The Kraken]

I was in the gym a week ago squatting, my last set I had poor form on the last rep and felt it in my lower back, but also in my left foot.

I've thrown my back out before and been laid up for a day or two but moved on

Now here I am, a week later and I can't even walk 20 feet before I have to stop. The pain in my foot and hip is just too fukking bad.

I'm seeing two docs right now, unfortunately I've been on opioids for about 6 years so it's hard to find anything that actually relieves the pain, and that's fine, I understand you lie in the bed you make

The spine doc thinks I herniated L5 and have nerve impingement but without an MRI, he doesn't know for sure. He says he won't order an MRI until the 4th week of pain because INSURANCE WON'T PAY FOR IT! WTF????????

Anyways, it's a cluster. I've been out of work for a week and don't see any resolution coming soon. I'm already thinking of handicapped placcard for my car and which walking stick I want

Anyone else been through this? Does it get better or am I fukked?

[The Kraken]

It's amazing to think how much life can change in an instance. I wasn't even squatting near my max, I was on my 8th rep. Now I'm basically a vegetable. I'm smart enough to get by and have more common sense than most, but honestly my best attribute is that I'm just a hard worker. And that's been stripped of me right now. It's somewhat emasculating. FML

[The Kraken]

Guess Im the only old guy here with a fukked up back

Guys, nothing is more impoetant than our health, its really all we have and when it goes, nothing else matters

[PorkChop]

Don't do any power lifting movements for at least a few weeks..

[TheMoneyShot]

What amazes me is all these young kids in the gym lifting weight without lower back support on...

L4-L5 area is quite common in all athletes to deteriorate over time.

Always... always... always wear some form of back support.

I had lower back surgery at 22

[gauchojake]

Krakles doctors don't know shit about reimbursement. Call your health plan and speak to a UM supervisor.

[TheMoneyShot]

And Krak.... what sucks about these docs during lower back treatment... it's all done in steps. I remember waiting 6 months for an MRI... I had to go through 5 prior doctors appointments.... beforehand... all doctors had to make sure I 100% needed one. Wait until you do the test when they stick needles down your legs.... etc.. I forgot what test that was called? EMG I believe? fukking bastards

Once the MRI was taking.... it was confirmed that the disc was "over sized bulging" immediate surgery was required.

[RudyRuetigger]

kraken what are you squatting these days?

[TheMoneyShot]

Krak... I highly recommend taking those Advil Gel Caps. Works wonders for the back area. Take them as directed... you should feel better in 7 days or so... but if a disc is out.... the pain won't go away. If it's just a muscle spasm caused by your abductor muscle.... then the pain will go away.

[biggie12]

It's amazing to think how much life can change in an instance. I wasn't even squatting near my max, I was on my 8th rep. Now I'm basically a vegetable. I'm smart enough to get by and have more common sense than most, but honestly my best attribute is that I'm just a hard worker. And that's been stripped of me right now. It's somewhat emasculating. FML

I know all about your Pain. I had a cyst on my tailbone that apparently has the same effects as sciatica pain.


Advil gel caps wont do much for you. You can try them yourself and see. "im sure your pain killers dont even work"

Kraken you told me yesterday that your work tests for THC ? do they also test for CBD ?

If not i think your best solution would be to get a very HIGH CBD oil without THC, it has amazing anti-inflamatory and is an analgesic without any of the high psychoactive effects.

i personally would Vape it, but you dont like to smoke period i assume. You could get it in pill format

Has helped during recovery and instantly helps when i get shooting pain down the leg.

Also daily juicing really helps your whole body out.
kale, lemon, celery, green apple, cucumber, ginger "once a day you will notice pain lessens after 2-3 weeks

[jjgold]

squatting worse possible thing you can do for backs

any weights are bad

[RudyRuetigger]

8th rep?

are you going for aesthetics pal???

[KVB]

Krak I have an L5-S1 fusion and know all about your pain. I lived life with a broken back for a couple of years due to a dumbass misreading the Xrays.

Take it easy, you probably didn't blow everything out like they say in one fell swoop but who knows. Call your insurance and find out what they can do. Complain to them about the pain and see what they can offer. Get a good contact at the insurance company, even up the nurse level, this can help.

Some of these injuries will right themselves (enough anyway) in time. The back can take what seems like forever.

I also know about life halting with the physical restrictions...and that sucks. My fusion surgery had immediate relief years a go but now I deal with chronic neck issues.

It might be worth it to pay for the MRI, if bad enough and if the symptoms are bad enough. But if so, then don't let the doctor's office push you around.

Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

As far as medicating, try some different chronic, I suggest indica with a high CBD content but there are so many kinds of bud. One may work well for you in the worst times.

[Chi_archie]

apple cider vinegar and cayenne pepper should do the trick

[gauchojake]

apple cider vinegar and cayenne pepper should do the trick

[DrunkHorseplayer]

I had sciatica and your condition doesn't sound like it's the sciatic nerve.

[The Kraken]

Don't do any power lifting movements for at least a few weeks..

I can barely walk Porker, I won't be doing much of anything for a few weeks

kraken what are you squatting these days?

Max squat is 285, gun to my head I could do 300

Krak... I highly recommend taking those Advil Gel Caps. Works wonders for the back area. Take them as directed... you should feel better in 7 days or so... but if a disc is out.... the pain won't go away. If it's just a muscle spasm caused by your abductor muscle.... then the pain will go away.

I'm taking 5 Aleve every day which is 1 more than the max dose. I'm also taking Gabapentin, Flexaril, Prednisone and Oxycodone

I know all about your Pain. I had a cyst on my tailbone that apparently has the same effects as sciatica pain.


Advil gel caps wont do much for you. You can try them yourself and see. "im sure your pain killers dont even work"

Kraken you told me yesterday that your work tests for THC ? do they also test for CBD ?

If not i think your best solution would be to get a very HIGH CBD oil without THC, it has amazing anti-inflamatory and is an analgesic without any of the high psychoactive effects.

i personally would Vape it, but you dont like to smoke period i assume. You could get it in pill format

Has helped during recovery and instantly helps when i get shooting pain down the leg.

Also daily juicing really helps your whole body out.
kale, lemon, celery, green apple, cucumber, ginger "once a day you will notice pain lessens after 2-3 weeks

Thanks for the input! I've never even heard of CBD. I think you asked me the other day where I worked and I work in a hospital. As far as I know, when the do test it's the std 7 panel drug screen, so THC, benzos, opioids, cocaine, oxy, meth and barbituates. I'm not sure if CBD falls into any of those categories.

And you are correct, nothing is helping much, including me overdosing on Aleve and Oxy. I went through #60 oxycodones in 6 days because of my tolerance, so my dr. ordered more and the pharmacy didn't want to fill the script THey said it was too many I asked to speak to the manager, told em to look at my history of opioid dependency and then call my doc, then if there is a problem we'll deal with it. He called my doc and came back and was apologetic and nice and the script was filled promptly.

This shit hurts man.

8th rep?

are you going for aesthetics pal???

I was squatting #205 when it happened

Krak I have an L5-S1 fusion and know all about your pain. I lived life with a broken back for a couple of years due to a dumbass misreading the Xrays.

Take it easy, you probably didn't blow everything out like they say in one fell swoop but who knows. Call your insurance and find out what they can do. Complain to them about the pain and see what they can offer. Get a good contact at the insurance company, even up the nurse level, this can help.

Some of these injuries will right themselves (enough anyway) in time. The back can take what seems like forever.

I also know about life halting with the physical restrictions...and that sucks. My fusion surgery had immediate relief years a go but now I deal with chronic neck issues.

It might be worth it to pay for the MRI, if bad enough and if the symptoms are bad enough. But if so, then don't let the doctor's office push you around.

Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

As far as medicating, try some different chronic, I suggest indica with a high CBD content but there are so many kinds of bud. One may work well for you in the worst times.

Good to hear from you KVB

I will take your advice on the Indica with high CBD, again I'm not familiar with THC or CBD, so I may have some questions, but I try anything right now. My opioid tolerance and dependency is coming back to bite me in the ass right now.

I got xrays today, gonna have my doc look at them tomorrow and then hopefully he'll order an MRI. I'm going to call my insurance co tomorrow and find out the deal.

I had sciatica and your condition doesn't sound like it's the sciatic nerve.

I thought it was pretty textbook sciatica but honestly, this is not my area of specialty.

But I was doing squats, now my left butt, hip and leg are in pain and I have numbness, tingling and weakness in the left leg and foot.

My doc is concerned about the weakness more than anything and he's pretty sure based on where the numbness/tingling is that it is L5, which is no surprise.


Thanks all for the input and advice. I hope you guys can follow this with me for a little longer as I will certainly have questions whether it's about chronic or insurance co's.

[The Kraken]

Went to the chiro today, she was great

Took it easy, did some facial releases, told me my back was fukked up and spasm'd out to the max, and that my hips were jacked.

She put me on a table that pulled me in two different directions, traction decompression I think. But my left leg went completely numb so we had to stop.

Overall it was good. No cracking my back or anything

[ttwarrior1]

I know exactly how to fix it, yep sure do.
You have to ask me first and mean it.

Squatting is too old school. Much better things to do now with modification. Hope u didnt have a weight belt on either.
As far as supplements go though

You need glucosamine, manganese and gelatin.
Liquid calcium in the form of tri calcium phosphate or citrate with magnesium.
And you need to take alot. You won't overdose.
Up to about 15 a day of the glucosamine, manganese and gelatin.
2 doses of the calcium.
Ice with compression.
Go to wherever and buy either joint flex or penetrex and use it on the hip and back.

[Naz18]

Theirs no magic fix for a herniated disc, just recovery....no lifting for several months, then slowly doing psychical therapy type exercises for your lower back.

[ttwarrior1]

hog wash, not months, and thats old school thinking ,

[TheMoneyShot]

hog wash, not months, and thats old school thinking ,

Once the disc starts leaning on your main nerve line... let me know how you feel every 24 hours you live. You'll be begging for injections. The only way there's relief.... during sleeping. Sleeping position... legs up. Once you take your first step out of bed... the pain begins.

Rare occasions a slightly herniated disc can be aligned back in place.

"Over sized bulging" disc cannot be aligned back in place. Surgery is required.

[The Kraken]

I know exactly how to fix it, yep sure do.
You have to ask me first and mean it.

Squatting is too old school. Much better things to do now with modification. Hope u didnt have a weight belt on either.
As far as supplements go though

You need glucosamine, manganese and gelatin.
Liquid calcium in the form of tri calcium phosphate or citrate with magnesium.
And you need to take alot. You won't overdose.
Up to about 15 a day of the glucosamine, manganese and gelatin.
2 doses of the calcium.
Ice with compression.
Go to wherever and buy either joint flex or penetrex and use it on the hip and back.

How do I fix it? I've been icing it with compression. I didn't have a weight belt on.

[The Kraken]

Theirs no magic fix for a herniated disc, just recovery....no lifting for several months, then slowly doing psychical therapy type exercises for your lower back.

naz, this is exactly my thinking up to this point. I've talked to different docs, family members, friends, co-workers and they all say the same thing, it's gonna suck for a little while and then it will pass. The only thing that has me worried is the weakness and nearly absent reflexes. My doc is a spine specialist and I asked him straight up "does that stuff concern you?" and he said absolutely, so I'm a bit worried by his answer. But in the meantime we're gonna keep the course I guess until TT chimes in, then we'll see what he says and I'll pass it on to my doc

[jjgold]

Icing will work

Brutal now but it does go away once nerve calms down

Hang in there pal

[The Kraken]

Once the disc starts leaning on your main nerve line... let me know how you feel every 24 hours you live. You'll be begging for injections. The only way there's relief.... during sleeping. Sleeping position... legs up. Once you take your first step out of bed... the pain begins.

Rare occasions a slightly herniated disc can be aligned back in place.

"Over sized bulging" disc cannot be aligned back in place. Surgery is required.

No doubt. When you ass feels ass if it has a porcupine in it, and your leg feels like it has acid running through the veins, and the bone in your shin is throbbing constantly, your foot is numb, tingly, weak and feels like it's on fire 24/7, and there is no position to relieve the symptoms, just some positions that hurt a little less than the others, it tends to change ones perspective.

[The Kraken]

Icing will work

Brutal now but it does go away once nerve calms down

Hang in there pal

Thanks JJ

I'm icing around the clock pal. It doesn't seem to do much but I know it is helping. I'll keep at it coach

[ACoochy]

Krakles im no expert but i think starting light sets of dead lifts might help you here once you get back to good health.

[CanuckG]

This is why I stick to cardio and light muscle work. I have a sore back from just hunching over at the office. I can't imagine what squatting would do to me. Take er easy. Listen to a trusted professional. But don't panic and be Dr. Google because it usually ends up with you linking this to cancer or something....like everything else out there.

[grease lightnin]

Kraker I did the same thing doing old school t-bar rows back in the day. Ice that bad boy and take it easy. Once the inflammation is down, try doing lower back stretches.

I herniated my L5 in 2003. I felt like an old man. Couldn't do anything. I remember having to lay on the floor in my living room after trying to ride my skateboard for even a minute. I thought I was done for. I went to a chiro, but I didn't get better until I stopped going to him, and started doing the yoga stretches.

Nowadays I still re-injure it once a year or so. But then I follow the same process--take it easy, ice, then stretches once the inflammation goes down and I am fine. I can do just about anything. But I don't do high risk shit like free squats or dead lifts. I will only do light squats on the smith machine. No dead lifts anymore.

Many people I know who got fusions wish they hadn't. They don't seem to get much relief. I would try to do it naturally and elect surgery as a laat resort.

GL

[goceltics]

Hey Kraken-

I feel for you man. I am actually undergoing the same situation at present. My brother, a physical therapist, diagnoised a herniated disk when I told him my symptoms. He told me to get a MRI to confirm. I have medical insurance but it is just so much bs in this country to move through the medical process and get some relief. I did a lot of research online to educate myself on this subject. I decided to see an acupuncturists. I selected a certified Chinese acupuncturist that was a chiropractor also. Most insurance wont cover the acupuncture treatment but they will the chiro. I have have 4 treatments and the results are incredible. I still have a bit of lower back pain some days but the pain is no longer radiating down the leg. My work is physically demanding and I can do it with minimal discomfort. My first treatment was $180 which included $60 in herbal remedies, corydais pill form and tea, and natural relaxant for muscle spasms, tension, and stress. I did 3 treatments this week at $65 cash plus they bill my medical for chiro adjustment. The doc wants me to take it easy for awhile to let my back heal itself, however, once you start feeling good...one tends to want to get out and go to sporting events, etc. lol. 9 days ago I will laid up with a lot of doubt in my head and after the first treatment I know I am on the road back. I will give it a couple months and be back in the gym starting off slow. I am happy to answer any questions and wish you the best moving forward.

[jjgold]

This is why I stick to cardio and light muscle work. I have a sore back from just hunching over at the office. I can't imagine what squatting would do to me. Take er easy. Listen to a trusted professional. But don't panic and be Dr. Google because it usually ends up with you linking this to cancer or something....like everything else out there.

smart as a tac..weight lifting ruins body

[blackHIPPY]

I know all about your Pain. I had a cyst on my tailbone that apparently has the same effects as sciatica pain.


Advil gel caps wont do much for you. You can try them yourself and see. "im sure your pain killers dont even work"

Kraken you told me yesterday that your work tests for THC ? do they also test for CBD ?

If not i think your best solution would be to get a very HIGH CBD oil without THC, it has amazing anti-inflamatory and is an analgesic without any of the high psychoactive effects.

i personally would Vape it, but you dont like to smoke period i assume. You could get it in pill format

Has helped during recovery and instantly helps when i get shooting pain down the leg.

Also daily juicing really helps your whole body out.
kale, lemon, celery, green apple, cucumber, ginger "once a day you will notice pain lessens after 2-3 weeks

polynidal cyst ?
had one of those bout 2 years ago
worst time of my life

[King Mayan]

What a bunch of homos

[gauchojake]

stfu and squat puto