[k13]

C'mon, line should be -7 Panthers and getting them at -4 is theft. So long as we don't see any funny stuff from the zebras, the Panthers will easily roll. I give Denver a better chance to win with Osweiler than I do with Peyton.

No...the actual line should be -2, -2.5 Carolina...

[frostno98]

LOL, Covers.com are trying to sucker people in to take the Panthers by writing an article saying the Panthers are undervalue? The line right now is at -6 and public money hasn't dissipated yet. Right now, it's in the low 80's when you combine both Moneyline and Point Spread action on the Panthers. The public is absolutely convinced that if the 2013 MVP version of Manning can get blown out in the Superbowl then this old washed one up definitely will.


Manning just need to do what he's been doing all playoffs and they will win because this great defense is going to give them a fighting chance. There's nothing to me that indicate the Panthers is going to fare any better. The defense has just stopped the two best aerial attack in the NFL. I actually think they match up better against the run because they have a bulky front line and quick linebackers that can spy on Cam Newton. There's no way they lose by more then 3 points when their all their games has been close all year. The Broncos did had one blowout lost to the Chiefs when they lost 13-29 in a game the offense threw 5 picks. If they don't turn it over they will cover and possibly win.

[yankees10]

Denver bout to take them out behind the woodshed gonna be one of them oh I didn't see that coming games I can see it coming a mile away

[SharpAngles]

Some decent analysis for both sides here but I think most Denver backers are forgetting that Belichick/McDaniels beat themselves worse than the Broncos D did. Kick a couple FG's instead of going for it on 4th down twice and we're looking at a Brady v Cam Superbowl

To me a lot of this comes down to coaching and I'll put my money on Riverboat Ron over Gary Fkn Kubiak any day!

[sandyw123]

I think I'll take the under.

[BigdaddyQH]

The line is -6 in Vegas now, and it will NOT go any higher. A lot of interesting talk and theory in here but that is all that it is. Talk and theory. How many times has Carolina been there? How many times has Denver been there? For those of you who think the weather will play a part, forget it. Sunny and temps in the mid 60's at game time. A grass field gives a slight edge to Carolina in that department. Denver ruined Carolina's strategy by choosing to wear white, the same color that Carolina, thinking that they were the visiting team if they got to the Superbowl, chose to wear in the playoffs. Had New England made it, the strategy would have worked. Denver draws first blood in the mind game department. Carolina wears black. Good guys vs bad guys. Interesting.

[Barnes & Whine]

It will interesting to see what the closing line on this game will be. In super bowl betting history, lines that ended -7.5 or higher, the favorites usually covered, rare exception was in 2008 with the Patriots being -12 and losing to the Giants, and in 1998 with Green Bay being -11 against Denver and Denver winning straight up. Check it out here..

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/superbowl/history/

I'm guessing this line will close at 4.5 or 5, with Denver ML about +180. That's my best guess. If it closes at 7.5, which it won't, I would be scared to take Denver at that point. Underdogs have covered 6 of the last 8 years. (New England considered a Pick 'em last year.)

[KVB]

That line will not go to 7.5. BigDaddy could be right about 6, it will take some money to get to 6.5. There are groups still up for buying Carolina at that price.

Those groups have been patient and helped contribute to the rise to 6 taking so long.

Win or lose, there area rules that govern buys and sells and computers identifying the triggers.

This may be the SuperBowl, but to us professionals, it's really just another game. The low line early this week lends credence to those who think Denver wins the game.

Vegas incited the action and the sharps bought into the early Denver backers. This is similar to stocks, particualrly in the first hour of the morning.

We used to call it amateur hour.

[Grits n' Gravy]

I love when guys refer to themselves as sharps. If they were so sharp they would have their own book and sit back and make money regardless.

KVB is a smart guy.

Big Daddy is a fuking moron. Using uniform color as an example for why Denver has the edge?

[TwoWays]

Game is fixed. NFL can't have Newton after all his race baiting being face of league.

[KVB]

I love when guys refer to themselves as sharps. If they were so sharp they would have their own book and sit back and make money regardless.

KVB is a smart guy.

Big Daddy is a fuking moron. Using uniform color as an example for why Denver has the edge?

I can't argue with anything you said there...lol. Truthfully, I'm a player at heart and booking comes with too many headaches.

[strictlypaypal]

My niggas!!!! Just got word from my bookie, so far 51k is on CAR and 7k is on DEN. He only moved the line half a point since he opened.

Y'all know what to do

[frostno98]

This is starting to get interesting now. Carolina public action has now dropped nearly 10 percent while still hovering around 70 percent. Denver right now has a slight edge on moneyline action like maybe 1-2 percent.

If it's 60-40 by kickoff then I would be confident if I'm a Panther bettor since Vegas is probably going to let it ride to offset the losing they would take from a Denver moneyline win. If people are still hammering the Over then the equation changes a little bit since Vegas rarely loses both public plays on their most betted game.

A recent example was the Alabama Clemson game. The public took both Bama and the Over overwhelming. And guess what happened, only one public play covered.

The Public action in this Superbowl is nowhere as bad as Superbowl 48 when the entire world took Denver. Another bad thing for Denver in Superbowl 48 was, it was the year of the horse and you had millions of Chinese money on the Broncos added to have Vegas really rig it.

[Goat Milk]

Ask yourself.. How will the Broncos score?

the broncos have the 2 best wrs on the field. so...

[Goat Milk]

This game will be decided with Von Miller and Ware plain and simple. Carolina uses 5 o linemen sometimes even 6 and gives cam all day to throw. if Miller and Ware get to cam Denver will win for sure. Carolina corners can't cover thomas and sanders...

[capping40pct]

Im loving denver more and more

[Da Manster!]

Well, I don't give a fuk what anyone says or all of the bullshit conspiracy theories that are being spewed on this thread and others, but my money is on Carolina (-5.5)...and I'm going almost all in...I've learned over the years when handicapping Superbowls, I always ask myself which team was more impressive in their respective playoff runs and who did they beat?...this formula is not complicated and has proven to be successful...carolina destroyed two legit teams in Seattle and Arizona....Denver's D is legit and finished #1 in the regular season with 283.1 yds allowed per game and Seattle was #2 right behind them at 291.8 and Arizona was #5 at 321.7...so in essence, there really isn't that much separation between those three defenses...Carolina has too many weapons on offense for Denver to slow down...Cam's running ability and the read option will negate Von Miller's and the rest of Denver's pass rush or at the very least hold it in check...I have no doubt that Carolina's defense will force at least 3 turnovers from Peyton Manning...game, set, match...Carolina wins 34 - 14 and I'm putting at least a nickel ($500) on the game....


Net Total Yards Leaders

RK	TEAM	YDS	YDS/G	PASS	P YDS/G	RUSH	R YDS/G	PTS	PTS/G
1	Denver	4530	283.1	3193	199.6	1337	83.6	296	18.5
2	Seattle	4668	291.8	3364	210.3	1304	81.5	277	17.3
3	Houston	4963	310.2	3366	210.4	1597	99.8	313	19.6
4	NY Jets	5098	318.6	3763	235.2	1335	83.4	314	19.6
5	Arizona	5147	321.7	3687	230.4	1460	91.3	313	19.6
6	Carolina	5167	322.9	3752	234.5	1415	88.4	308	19.3
7	Kansas City	5269	329.3	3698	231.1	1571	98.2	287	17.9
8	Baltimore	5398	337.4	3737	233.6	1661	103.8	401	25.1
9	New England	5431	339.4	3851	240.7	1580	98.8	315	19.7
10	Tampa Bay	5446	340.4	3840	240.0	1606	100.4	417	26.1
11	Cincinnati	5453	340.8	3976	248.5	1477	92.3	279	17.4
12	Tennessee	5475	342.2	3678	229.9	1797	112.3	423	26.4
13	Minnesota	5507	344.2	3759	234.9	1748	109.3	302	18.9
14	Chicago	5527	345.4	3593	224.6	1934	120.9	397	24.8
15	Green Bay	5547	346.7	3642	227.6	1905	119.1	323	20.2
16	Atlanta	5562	347.6	3882	242.6	1680	105.0	345	21.6
17	Dallas	5570	348.1	3636	227.3	1934	120.9	374	23.4
18	Detroit	5594	349.6	3789	236.8	1805	112.8	400	25.0
19	Buffalo	5702	356.4	3972	248.3	1730	108.1	359	22.4
20	San Diego	5791	361.9	3786	236.6	2005	125.3	398	24.9
21	Pittsburgh	5809	363.1	4350	271.9	1459	91.2	319	19.9
22	Oakland	5818	363.6	4140	258.8	1678	104.9	399	24.9
23	St. Louis	5885	367.8	4065	254.1	1820	113.8	330	20.6
24	Jacksonville	6000	375.0	4291	268.2	1709	106.8	448	28.0
25	Miami	6019	376.2	4000	250.0	2019	126.2	389	24.3
26	Indianapolis	6066	379.1	4114	257.1	1952	122.0	408	25.5
27	Cleveland	6067	379.2	4012	250.8	2055	128.4	432	27.0
28	Washington	6090	380.6	4128	258.0	1962	122.6	379	23.7
29	San Francisco	6199	387.4	4179	261.2	2020	126.3	387	24.2
30	Philadelphia	6426	401.6	4273	267.1	2153	134.6	430	26.9
31	New Orleans	6620	413.8	4544	284.0	2076	129.8	476	29.8
32	NY Giants	6725	420.3	4783	298.9	1942	121.4	442	27.6

[MarcusPaige]

This game will be decided with Von Miller and Ware plain and simple. Carolina uses 5 o linemen sometimes even 6 and gives cam all day to throw. if Miller and Ware get to cam Denver will win for sure. Carolina corners can't cover thomas and sanders...

Josh Norman can cover anybody. As to the rest of the Carolina secondary, they're weak, but they can still knock down a wobbly duck.

[NavsPicks]

why would anyone waste their time trying to convince you that a 17-1 team isnt a fluke. You have clearly made up your mind already. The "banged up" packers win came just a week after the Broncos beat them at their "peak."

HOLLA at me?

[ThaTopMoron]

Wow. Great analysis here. By this logic, he's been due for the past 18 games. Dumbass.

looks like the MOneyShot was right

cAM was due to sht the bed...

fumble for defensive score

fumble he didn't go after aggressively and ended up giving Broncos the ball on the 4 to seal the game

pick

near pick

sack

sack

sack

sack

over throw

over throw

dab on em!

[Jowframs]

Panthers 5-3 ATS on the Road

6-3 ATS .....as aDog......6-0 ATS .....5-1 SU
What Else Do Ya Want?$$$$$$$$$

[k13]

C'mon, line should be -7 Panthers and getting them at -4 is theft. So long as we don't see any funny stuff from the zebras, the Panthers will easily roll. I give Denver a better chance to win with Osweiler than I do with Peyton.

Yeah....

[NavsPicks]

All those NFL experts are no where to be seen now. I called this game like a book in this thread.

[ZINISTER]

This game will be decided with Von Miller and Ware plain and simple. Carolina uses 5 o linemen sometimes even 6 and gives cam all day to throw. if Miller and Ware get to cam Denver will win for sure. Carolina corners can't cover thomas and sanders...

Pa POW! That's spot on!