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    Flipper And Others Tell ME About Providence??

    I kneed to know about this squad at home

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    Great home and away team, 9-2 and 4-0 respectively.

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    Take the over

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    Very tough game to call. I think butler eeks it out even on the road but you couldnt force me to play this game

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    Butler not bad either

    fukkin guess

    looking for angles

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartAlabama View Post
    Take the over
    i wouldnt be so fast to go that route. provo shot insanely and uncharacteristically well from behind the arc (other than lindsey nobody could miss and bullock made like half his 3s he has made all season in that game!) the 1st meeting and they scored 154, id expect this game to stay in the 140s so under or nothing makes way more sense imo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    i wouldnt be so fast to go that route. provo shot insanely and uncharacteristically well from behind the arc (other than lindsey nobody could miss and bullock made like half his 3s he has made all season in that game!) the 1st meeting and they scored 154, id expect this game to stay in the 140s so under or nothing makes way more sense imo..
    Bankerman, you got a call on the side here? Assuming you have it as a no-play but gun to your head?

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    Toss up game. I'm going with the home team with the best player!

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    Kris Dunn is legit. Should be #2 pick in nba draft imo.

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    He is real nice.

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    Butler +1.5 my only CBB play tonight so far. Big disparity in three-pointers made in favor of Butler tonight could be key as they get revenge for earlier home loss. Providence in not a good shooting team, ranked 213th in the country in effective field goal percentage, and they have been shooting even worse in recent games. Also, the two home losses this year have come in the last two home games vs. Seton Hall and Marquette, Butler is better than both those teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Butler not bad either

    fukkin guess

    looking for angles
    Spread tells it all.....Go Butler

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    Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.
    Providence has made a habit of being down double-digits at halftime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capybara View Post
    Bankerman, you got a call on the side here? Assuming you have it as a no-play but gun to your head?
    im a fan of dunn and have followed provo for last few years pretty close mostly because i like his game.

    you right it a no play for me but gun to head i agree with LT, provo current form (havnt been sharp in conf at home) and how uncharacteristically well they shot the 1st meeting makes me think butler has pretty good shot to get a little revenge..

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    Butler couldn't contain Dunn last time, he'll go off again. Bentil will have his way against undersized Butler down low.

    Roosevelt Jones + Dunham + Chrabascz are combined 35/111 (31.5%) in the last 3 meetings vs Provo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.
    Both Dunn & Bentil were in foul trouble in 1H and I expect the refs to continue favoring home court tonight so that early foul trouble likely won't happen again

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    simmons dunn hield
    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Kris Dunn is legit. Should be #2 pick in nba draft imo.

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    Great thread! This is what it's about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    simmons dunn hield
    Agree. That Murray kid from UK is in that mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    simmons dunn hield
    hield isn't even top 5, love the kid but not sure if his game will translate well to the NBA to be a top 5 pick.

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    natural skill 100% translates...i just love the guy LOL...could see him coming off the bench and help out a few teams in the NBA....just my opinion..DEF a top 10---just not a deep draft...
    Quote Originally Posted by FlipsideRM View Post
    hield isn't even top 5, love the kid but not sure if his game will translate well to the NBA to be a top 5 pick.

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    Providence or no play. Why? A few reasons.
    They were undefeated until a slow start caught them
    vs Marquette. They rallied back but fell by 1 point in
    an ending that could have gone either way, fouls and all.
    In the loss to Seton Hall, sloppy play hurt them and there is
    some underestimation of Seton Hall this year, who are dangerous
    when hot. Friars were down 10 at the half, won the 2nd by 1.
    The game took place exactly at the same time as the Patriots.
    Players hoped they would get fan support at the Dunk but it wasn't
    so much because everyone was watching the Pats. Poo Poo that
    all you want but players said they hoped for support. Of course tonight
    there will be a lot of that.
    The main issue with Friars right now is buffing up the bench play and
    starting strong - the team has a demonstrated ability to rally back but
    shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where they need to.
    We can be sure coach Cooley is on this. On to the Butler game tonight
    I can understand the line (due to recent forms) and stats (which overinflate
    Butler's scoring against lesser teams) but at Butler just 3 weeks ago the
    Friars overcame an 11 pt deficit at the half to embarass Butler in front of
    their fans by 19 in the 2h with times they were up well into the 20's in
    10-15 minutes of bball. So anyone who takes Butler needs to understand
    that Providence when they are playing well is more talented.
    In the loss to Seton Hall, Kris Dunn fouled out and so did bench guard
    Edwards. Friars can't afford to see Dunn foul out and expect to beat
    top ranking teams. It was a Dunn foul that made them lose to Marquette also.
    If Cooley impresses on Dunn to be less eager to make overzealous plays on defense
    resulting in fouls they should win tonight.
    Butler wants revenge but the Friars should be able to force them into sloppy
    defense resulting in fouls and get to the line a lot. (Bentil).
    It's not worth taking Butler at this line, Providence has shown when they
    play their game smart they are the better team. They were able to impose
    their will on Butler quickly. They held Butler to 3/17 from 3.
    So basically unless you think Butler will drain 3's in Providence and force
    Kris Dunn into foul trouble again when he is instructed to avoid that
    then it's PC or no play or at the very least wait to 2h if you think the
    Friars will start slow again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    Both Dunn & Bentil were in foul trouble in 1H and I expect the refs to continue favoring home court tonight so that early foul trouble likely won't happen again
    Dunn fouled out Saturday at home when they lost to Seton Hall.

    Head to head on Kenpom Butler matches up very good vs Providence with a huge edge in effective FG%.

    I like Dunn a lot but think Providence is over rated because of him so you get + money with the better team.

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    going to poke Prov just on the home court angle

    good luck

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    Per my writeup on the front page I am taking Providence with some confidence. Butler has no size to create a mismatch with Providence, and the Friars younger lineup will be stoked to play at home (read: defense). I also see this as a let down game after Butler's last one in which they had all kinds of ceremonies for their center who died of cancer last week.

    As always with a team like Butler they can hit a bunch of 3's and be in any game; however, if they come out cold they will shoot themselves into a big deficit on the road.

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    Prov backers should wait until 2h as you'll get a better line, butler is going to come out strong, I'm on butler 1h

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    Good thread here. Let's go Providence Friars!

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    Butler struggles with real athletic teams like Provo. Personally I just think Provo is the better team but won't touch because hard to sweep a team, especially when they just played each other a few weeks ago.

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    Everyone going to flipper now

    College hoops

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Butler +1.5 my only CBB play tonight so far. Big disparity in three-pointers made in favor of Butler tonight could be key as they get revenge for earlier home loss. Providence in not a good shooting team, ranked 213th in the country in effective field goal percentage, and they have been shooting even worse in recent games. Also, the two home losses this year have come in the last two home games vs. Seton Hall and Marquette, Butler is better than both those teams.
    I agree with you as far as the 3 pointers/FG percentages are concerned. But, I don't put any stock in the fact that they lost to Seton Hall and Marquette and that Butler is better than both of them. Time and time again I find that there is no transitive property in sports.

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    Don't know if guys here watch teams actually play rather than final scores but to me Prov. has looked disturbingly sloppy against lesser opponents and gotten outhustled in 2 straight home games as a ranked team. Yet almost 60% public on provo knowing they were ranked #4 or 5 only a week ago and still buying the hype. I can tell you to lose to seton hall and Marquette on home floor shows me this team is not very focused mentally and it will get even tougher vs a Butler squad that plays the full 40 min. with high intensity. Add in revenge and Butler the play here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    going to poke Prov just on the home court angle

    good luck
    Who else you like today Goldy?

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    winner

    chongs nobody

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    What a game!! Congrats, Prov backers!

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