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08-20-15 12:56 PM #36
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08-20-15 12:57 PM #37
purchase the package and post his plays in the Service Forum.
Originally Posted by Vikings28
or better yet go check the service forum they got pretty much every tout known to man kinds plays in there for absolutely free.
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08-20-15 12:57 PM #38
what did he do to the senior citizens exactly? Originally Posted by cubswin
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08-20-15 01:34 PM #39
I got the diamond package but it turned out to be more like cubic zirconia. At least it included a meet and greet with Brandon Lang at the silver sevens
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08-20-15 01:41 PM #40
Originally Posted by Booya711
bad meet and greet and in a dive
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08-20-15 01:45 PM #41
JJ was too busy to meet that day! Originally Posted by Vegas39
bad meet and greet and in a dive
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08-20-15 01:46 PM #42
get day old donuts and natty lite as comps Originally Posted by Booya711
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08-20-15 02:12 PM #43
He has a weekly podcast on youtube that's a good laugh. As slimy as a salesman as you'll find.
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08-20-15 02:23 PM #44
Touts are the biggest scammers and in the business if you even spend one dime on them you might as well jump off a building
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08-20-15 02:27 PM #45
why does everyone around here hate touts? Originally Posted by jjgold
its a honest way to make a living just like anything else. They provide a service.
Me personally i would rather just come up with my own bets and ask people on forums and have that money to actually wager on games instead of paying someone else for a pick that will probably lose...
but still i don't hate them. They are just trying to make a living. I'm sure some of them actually do try to pick winners for their clients.
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08-20-15 02:51 PM #46
They are supposedly selling a way for people to make easy money. Originally Posted by Big Bear
The fact is, they NEVER make people money, and they know that full well, yet they continue to find new suckers somehow, and the scam continues.
You call that an "honest way to make a living"???
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08-20-15 02:54 PM #47
Just when think bear cant look any more like a fukkin idiot
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08-20-15 03:15 PM #48
Vikings, you're new so let me give you this bit of advice. Ask about any handicapper, no matter who, in a sports gambling forum and you will have 10 negative posts for every 1 positive and that's probably being generous.. The sports gambling community in general detests paid cappers because when you spend money for picks you are essentially looking to improve from 48-52% to 58-62%. The problem is that when you tail a capper on a hot streak the average Joe ramps up their unit wager (if you were betting a hundred/game now it's at $300/game) and then what happens? He goes cold like everyone else but now the hot streak (heater) is long gone and the cooler is worse because the average bet has increased.
Bottom line - No tout is as bad as people say but none are anywhere close to as good as they advertise which pisses people off and attracts all the hate.
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08-20-15 03:32 PM #49
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08-20-15 03:56 PM #50
touts Do not bet Originally Posted by Swinging Johnson
If they were so good they would bet $5k a game and not sell picks
never every pay touts
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08-20-15 04:10 PM #51
I have never paid for a pick service before. I have just gotten the phone calls and text messages from them offering free picks and then when you say you want a free pick they have tried to get me to pay for it and then they quickly got very mad and defensive with me when i said I wasn't going to pay for it and i have even being cussed out by them. Originally Posted by hugh_jorgan
And i have heard horror stories and seen the show money talks where they try to sell a "big play " for more money than the client has been paying in the past.. i don't like that.
i also don't like how some of them try to feel you out and see how much you bet per game in order to determine how much to charge you....
That being said... thats not to say that every tout is like that.
If i was doing it I would actually try to make my clients money and I would charge everybody the same price per play. It doesn't make a difference if you bet $20 per game or if you bet $20,000 per game.... you should still charge the same amount to everybody.
I mean McDonalds doesn't charge Lebron James $25 for a Big Mac just b/c he can afford it.
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08-20-15 04:12 PM #52
but... when you gamble there is "variance" sometimes teams blow a 4-1 lead in the 8th inning and you might have handicapped everything right on paper... Originally Posted by jjgold
Crazy unpredictable shit happens in gambling...
A tout would rather lose their clients money and than lose their own money.
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08-20-15 04:28 PM #53
the girls on the track say he's hung like a viking
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08-20-15 04:30 PM #54
That's the age old axiom....touts don't bet. Some absolutely bet, some dont, but few if any are feared enough to make a line move so they figure why not make an extra 5 dimes or more a month for selling picks? They know better than anyone that chances are they will lose money over the season but either way an ancillary income is always welcome. Don't keep parroting what everyone believes. There are several hundred if not thousands of paid touts. Who knows what they do...only them but to say unequivocally none bet is a bit absurd. No disrespect Bear but let's not perpetuate a myth.
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08-20-15 04:30 PM #55
Don't listen to these jackholes. Buying winners is the way to go. I've got the insider package and can attest that it's well worth the loot. Touts know what they talking about or else would not be trying to help others make money
Points Awarded:
texhooper gave TwoWays 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.
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08-20-15 04:33 PM #56
Any video evidence to back up this claim? Originally Posted by manny24
I'm asking for a friend of mine ...
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08-20-15 04:37 PM #57
no way Originally Posted by hugh_jorgan
guy is like a chupacabra
well smells like that sortive
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08-20-15 04:38 PM #58
I would like to smoke out with a guy named steve x2
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08-20-15 04:45 PM #59
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08-20-15 04:51 PM #60
And now we have someone who goes the other way...neither is true. Most are about as good as the average bettor. Remember if you go 50% you will lose money. Gotta go 53% to overcome the vig kids. (Referring to post #55 TwoWays)
Last edited by Swinging Johnson; 08-20-15 at 05:02 PM.
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08-20-15 05:31 PM #61
just like stock brokers, mutual fund managers, hedge funds guy
THEY DO NOT TRADE
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08-20-15 06:06 PM #62
Pirelli and Skipper were great on that show.
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08-20-15 06:17 PM #63
there's something up with this, obviously the op has other motives. reminds me of back when i first signed up here and that guy football jesus had all these fake accounts singing his praises.
that said, steve stevens is a very charismatic and entertaining fellow, and skip and pirelli are good sidekicks. the show is awesome once you just accept that it's all bullshit. i really look forward to season 2.
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08-20-15 07:38 PM #64
I'm surprised jj is so anti-tout. Not a very good company man.
Service Plays the most viewed forum by far once season hits. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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08-20-15 07:42 PM #65
who would not be?? I have always been anti tout and always will be Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves
They are the scum of the earth
I feel bad for people giving them money
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08-20-15 08:05 PM #66
I think everyone should do it at least once. A good life lesson. Touts use tricks that legit scam artists will use against you in the future. Good to be able to recognize that first hand. Originally Posted by jjgold
I've done it. Regretted it. Now if I do follow one of their plays, I make sure it's free.
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08-20-15 08:17 PM #67
is it even legal to run a tout business outside of the state of Nevada?
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08-20-15 08:56 PM #68
I said is 3000 times if they were so good they would just bet their own plays
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08-20-15 09:59 PM #69
Anyone that doesn't take advantage of tout services is not a long term thinker, afraid to pay a little money to make big money. You got to make the investment guys. Their are multiple packages offered. You don't have to spend buco bucks on the top tier bundle to make money. But it all depends on how much u want to make.
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08-21-15 06:10 AM #70
Regardless of who the tout is right? They all make money? For the luvva gawd we've got a bunch of fresh faces and pikers in this thread.
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