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    SEA -1 @ -105 @ Bet365 right now. NE -3 @ +138 and NE -7 @ +210. I think that NE wins this by more than 1 TD, so I really like NE -7.

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    The - 3 at 5 dimes was not soft... they just sucked public money on NE. Rule no 1 of NFL is not to put anything on last game perception. My line is either 3 or 3 1/2 on Seattle. all you Brady lovers need a hobby,

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    I know gamblers have freakin insane memory loss sea DENVER last year

    Sea fav right out the gate everyone jumped on new enhlsnd sea was +2.5 game time

    Awesome QB hall of fame type running explosive offense
    Against a great defense with no offense in sea

    I know the script on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    I know gamblers have freakin insane memory loss sea DENVER last year

    Sea fav right out the gate everyone jumped on new enhlsnd sea was +2.5 game time

    Awesome QB hall of fame type running explosive offense
    Against a great defense with no offense in sea

    I know the script on this one
    Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkAA View Post
    Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.
    the comparison to last year makes no sense whatsoever but i guess ppl gotta tell themselves something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkAA View Post
    Broncos didn't have Belichick and it will be very hard to stop Gronk, who can do some damage and SEA run D has to face Blount as well. I really like this Seattle D but at the same time I'm afraid, that they're going to be outplayed.
    Yeah no shit cause they slapped belichick around in the AFC title game. Lol Blount won't run on sea. This isn't the colts defence. Brady has proven in the last 2 superbowl he wont do much vs a good d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    the comparison to last year makes no sense whatsoever but i guess ppl gotta tell themselves something..
    Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

    We both telling our selfs what we want to here

    Both teams have proven to win big games
    Both teams deserve to be there
    Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


    Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

    We both telling our selfs what we want to here

    Both teams have proven to win big games
    Both teams deserve to be there
    Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


    Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk
    you can make plenty of convincing arguments for sea that dont include trying to compare this to last years gm. pats are nothing like the soft ass donks and their noodle arm qb.. im not gonna sit here and say pats are some lock, im pretty sure it be close. i believe pats will win and ive said why. i could tell ya all the reasons sea could win but you right i rather not!! none of the good reasons for either side include bringing up a gm that has nothing to do with this one. that all im saying, not saying im right or wrong. just saying that the fact a bunch of retards thought den was gonna win last year really has no barring on this gm. i certainly wasnt backing donks last year..
    Last edited by 2daBank; 01-19-15 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    Just like your telling yourself the patriots are the right side come on bank with these two teams its a crapshoot especially in a dome on the biggest stage of the year . You telling yourself one thing I'm telling myself another if we were correct all the time we wouldn't be on this site we wouldn't talk about it we wouldn't ever lose

    We both telling our selfs what we want to here

    Both teams have proven to win big games
    Both teams deserve to be there
    Both teams still have 60 mins to prove one of us wrong


    Btw Kam chanchlor will be fine against Gronk
    You have the two #1 seeds going at it again. The records are identical. Green Bay is the only common opponent. Seattle won twice in Seattle, the last game in OT,and New England lost by a point in Green Bay. New England has given up 38 points in their playoff games and Seattle 39. The line in Vegas (the ONLY line that counts as far as I am concerned) is a pick. That is just about as close as you get. Now watch this game be over by the 2nd quarter. Murphy's law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    you can make plenty of convincing arguments for sea that dont include trying to compare this to last years gm. pats are nothing like the soft ass donks and their noodle arm qb.. im not gonna sit here and say pats are some lock, im pretty sure it be close. i believe pats will win and ive said why. i could tell ya all the reasons sea could win but you right i rather not!! none of the good reasons for either side include bringing up a gm that has nothing to do with this one. that all im saying, not saying im right or wrong. just saying that the fact a bunch of retards thought den was gonna win last year really has no barring on this gm. i certainly wasnt backing donks last year..
    Brady against strong defense gives him fits. Point one

    Very strong running game favors SEATTLE point two

    Along with point two Russell wilsons ability to apply read option escape and improvise point 2.5

    These are my points why I feel SEATTLE has the ability to win the Super Bowl against the patroits

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    These above points have nothing to do with comparing the teams from last even though these same points were the reason for last year these arguments are justified
    I believe you will have arguments that favor New England as well

    Reason being this SUPERBOWL is a pick em

    Turnovers will be the deciding factor as well as red zone defense

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    im sure sea will be able to run, i like your idea of lynch props..

    the whole "brady vs strong defenses" im not sure i buy. is this being said because of the nyg superbowls? im sure i can find plenty of more recent examples of brady playing good vs a high quality defense. the nyg games were a long time ago and i really dont think their defense is anything even close to a favorable comparison. sea d is better overall then gmens were, their front 4 dont even come close tho..

    while im sure sea will be able to run on pats im pretty confident pats can run on sea as well. living in stl ive watched the lambs cause sea problems every year with a power run gm and not much else, pats have other things you have to worry about and a pretty physical run gm themselves. as much as the zone read shit will give pats slower front 7 problems the same can be said for pats power run gm vs a smallish sea front 7 who isnt nearly as deep along the front line as they were last year..

    ultimately tho it really doesnt matter, i think both offenses match up well, im not gonna say differently. i think it will be close. so i will repeat myself again, if it is close i much rather my money be on the greatest qb of this generation and bellicheat to cement their legacy.

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    turnovers will decide I am sure

    Too close to call

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAHAWKHARRY View Post
    Brady against strong defense gives him fits. Point one

    Very strong running game favors SEATTLE point two

    Along with point two Russell wilsons ability to apply read option escape and improvise point 2.5

    These are my points why I feel SEATTLE has the ability to win the Super Bowl against the patroits

    This is pretty spot on. I looked at the Super Bowls just the Patriots were in and the key is the rushing game (See Ohio State). Team D is important, but in Pats games, if the featured rusher gets 60-80 yards and the secondary guy gets 0-20, they've (in this case New England) have won. You're betting on Blount to have two good games in a row basically, because a one dimensional Brady vs. a good team goes down in flames most every time. Baltimore games will happen and there is no feature runner when you're playing from behind.

    If Blount can rush, this could be a classic. New England's D is actually underrated and Seattle's O is underrated as well. I'm betting against a big rushing game for New England.

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    This is the super bowl matchup 95% of all people who watched football would have predicted before the season started.

    There is no surprise whatsoever that these are the 2 teams left standing to play for the Super Bowl...

    I think you just gotta throw yesterdays games out the window when handicappin this matchup.

    Pretty much Seattle had just about everything go wrong that could have possibly went wrong in the 1st half yesterday.

    If i am not mistaken Seattle already had 3 turnovers and not a single first down when the Packers went ahead 16-0.

    From the 4th quarter on the Seahawks dominated but they had to bc they dug themselves in a deep hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    im sure sea will be able to run, i like your idea of lynch props..

    the whole "brady vs strong defenses" im not sure i buy. is this being said because of the nyg superbowls? im sure i can find plenty of more recent examples of brady playing good vs a high quality defense. the nyg games were a long time ago and i really dont think their defense is anything even close to a favorable comparison. sea d is better overall then gmens were, their front 4 dont even come close tho..

    while im sure sea will be able to run on pats im pretty confident pats can run on sea as well. living in stl ive watched the lambs cause sea problems every year with a power run gm and not much else, pats have other things you have to worry about and a pretty physical run gm themselves. as much as the zone read shit will give pats slower front 7 problems the same can be said for pats power run gm vs a smallish sea front 7 who isnt nearly as deep along the front line as they were last year..

    ultimately tho it really doesnt matter, i think both offenses match up well, im not gonna say differently. i think it will be close. so i will repeat myself again, if it is close i much rather my money be on the greatest qb of this generation and bellicheat to cement their legacy.
    We both have correct assumptions and can go around and around on these two teams up until kickoff
    I will not bet against my team in the Super Bowl but I have not yet made a decision on betting on them
    Want to see what joe public pushes the # to



    Props I think we can put our heads together and come up with a few props banker

    Lynch rushing over is 1

    Looking at Wilson rushing yards and field goals over

    Receptions for lynch and GRONK as well

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    Feel free to vote on who you believe will win the super bowl.
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    I'm not gonna analyze this one.
    Crapshoot. I'm rooting for Pats so that may be the basis of my play. I would have preferred if sea was coming off a better showing though. The weaker performance concerns me of a bounce-back-type scenerio.
    BOL !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    me and many others were all over sea in that gm.. not gonna dig them up but they there.. pats are the play this go around. you cant out physical the pats like punk ass manning teams..
    Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Shut the penetrate up you d!cktard.
    so tough on the interweb, yet so stupid..

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    I am Pats fan so I won't bet against them. Thought Sea -2 would be the opener and close at NE -1.

    Kind of lean to NE winning by at least a td if Brady plays a clean game. Not throwing a pick on a pass he should know better than to attempt needs to stop. Gronk should have a lot of room if they try to cover him with just one guy. Having to double him frees up somebody else to have space too.

    On other side it would be helpful to use Hightower, Collins and possibly Ninkovich spy on Wilson and get some sort of pass rush from Jones. Seattle's big plays will come when Wilson can move his pocket so hit him when he rolls out or takes off.

    2 very smart coaches with 2 weeks to prepare makes for a great matchup.

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    ^
    Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
    Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by byronbb View Post
    Sharps hammering Pats from +3 -105 to +3 -119 on pinny. Pinny taking monster bets at 150k a pop. But public will dog hump pats in this spot 100% of the time. SHarps taking the 3 then buy back at game time as public lays into any number the pats get to.
    like has been pk at piney from the jump... where are you seeing +3

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
    Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with
    Seattle Gave Green Bay every opportunity to win that game and they couldn't.

    Seattle can have an awful game and still beat one of the best teams in the league. That doesn't worry you ?

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    Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Spot on, use all the weapons, not just Edleman and Danny and Blount, get Jonas involved, throw the whole kitchen sink at Seattle.
    Fluke the Seahwaks are there to begin with
    Nasher you are embarrasing yourself pal.

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    As a Pats fan, encouraging to see the D get broken down by a 1 legged Rodgers..Seattle was flying to start but once AR got to work, they were giving up all sorts of space and couldn't stop the run..The Pats finally have the personnel to stop a guy like Wilson. If they contain the run, that's it..Seattle will be relying on their defense to get them points..Brady is skilled enough to overcome a tough Seattle D, especially if they get the run going and wear them down.. Belichik is also a major advantage in this one..This is the best Pats team since 2004 and it's because the defense is great, and healthy..I think Earl Thomas and Sherman will be fine for this one too.

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    The cardinal 3-rule may be in play Belicheck has lost the last 2 super bowls as favorites both times going against them a 3rd time could be deadly in my opinion. Sherman and Thomas sound like they are quite banged up even with 2 weeks rest I dont know if they will be anything close to even 90%( shoulder subluxation and elbow sprain). They key is Sherman if he plays with only his right arm he is far less dangerous to throw at. Seattle may struggle vs. a top secondary unit the Pats have Wilson likely in for another big test.

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    PK for me! NE all the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmarinouofm View Post
    That doesn't worry you ?
    No.
    Petey can't prepare for what Petey doesn't know what's going to come at his defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Nasher you are embarrasing yourself pal.
    Bear, the only embarrassment here is when you look in the mirror.
    Run along, have a profittable night, quit trolling me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanoens View Post
    Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6
    the line got bet down cause every person with a clue took pats at + anything. not because of last weeks gm. because when you can get + on pats you almost always take it, if you know what you doing anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanoens View Post
    Before last weekend's games, hawks were -2.5 vs pats in a prop bet. The line swung cause of the Indy beat down. But that was due to Billicheat deflating balls..Hawks by 6
    Oh, so the deflated ball allegations defeated the Colts, the fact they were whipped like a rented mule in the Grand Canyon by the Pats on offense, defense, and special teams had no affect whatsoever on the final score, what was it again 934 to 7?

    Unsubscribe please, that post was a waste of bandwidth.

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    most ironic thing bout this all..the squarest fukks on the planet talking about how every square is on the pats. i got news for you clowns saying this, if you on sea then every square isnt on the pats..

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