[NJcap]

Do you watch football much? Seattle was at Home and Denver was on the Road in those games.

denver struggled at home vs jags .....these points can be made either side.....


seahawks secondary is too good for peytons short east west laterally thrown passes.....the short game will get stuffed real quick....then we look at denvers defense....can they stop beast mode? seahawks have playmakers in wilson harvin that can make huge plays even if lynch is slowed down....its gna be a great game and the little things will end up deciding it i.e. turnovers coaching decisions penalties but seattle most definitely has the upper hand going into the game

[NJcap]

U joking??? Simple logic: seahhawks cant score for shiyttt. Ya good D but cant stop broncos every time and no way can they go tit for tat in scoring. Broncos in a blowout. Audibles and controlling the line and changing signals will have seattle confused. They shutdown one guy and The firepower will go to another one of their top tier recievers. Seattle doesnt stand a chance scoring 15 pts as usual lmfoa. This isnt the 49rs who they almost lost to at home lol

broncos didn't even crack thirty vs a banged up pat defense.....game will not be a blowout....its not impossible for broncos to lose they lost to a shitty chargers team

[SBR_John]

Two keys to this game;
1) the obvious; must get some pressure on Manning. If Sea doesn't, easy Den win and no need to read #2.

2) Less obvious; Sea is also going against a very good D. The Sea offense must not compulsively go 3 & out or their defense will wear down. Sea needs to use a little clock, get a little field position.

[broadway6]

Two keys to this game;
1) the obvious; must get some pressure on Manning. If Sea doesn't, easy Den win and no need to read #2.

2) Less obvious; Sea is also going against a very good D. The Sea offense must not compulsively go 3 & out or their defense will wear down. Sea needs to use a little clock, get a little field position.

IMO the Seattle qb needs to run run run.

[NJcap]

i really don't think denver defense is that good....that patriot game...i was on denver btw....brady missed some wide opens WRs...although i don't think wilson a great qb he IS a great playmaker

[SBR_John]

i really don't think denver defense is that good....that patriot game...i was on denver btw....brady missed some wide opens WRs...although i don't think wilson a great qb he IS a great playmaker

Well,denver is tough against the run and they get good pressure and they are not going against a particularly good offense.

[slacker00]

Well,denver is tough against the run and they get good pressure and they are not going against a particularly good offense.

SEA #8 in offensive points scored, #4 in rushing yards, #4 in fewest turnovers. A lot to like about SEA's offense.

[freakydave]

Well,denver is tough against the run and they get good pressure and they are not going against a particularly good offense.

They run the ball well & wilson had been playing shorthanded for most of the season. Denver's Dfence(imo) is vastly overrated

[slacker00]

They run the ball well & wilson had been playing shorthanded for most of the season. Denver's Dfence(imo) is vastly overrated

Denver's defense is missing almost half of it's regular starters: Von, Vickerson, Wolfe, Moore, Harris.

[statnerds]

this line is terrible. how it didn't open at den 4 blows my mind. are you people fukkin smokin crack?!!?

Wilson:

25/43 for 318 yards
1 TD
0 Int

that is 2 fukking games!!!!!

why all the focus on manning?

it is this simple sometimes you fukks. answer this one question? which qb will come through if he is forced 'to win the game'?

wilson's job is 'to not lose games'. you guys seriously believe denver can take away run vs Pats with Brady at qb but can't do the same to Wilson? complete mismatch. should i go on? since 2003, winning qb in SB:

brady
brady
big ben
peyton
eli
big ben
brees
rodgers
eli
flacco.

so flacco may only be a step or two ahead of wilson at this point, but he also only had to beat kaepernick. you see the pattern there? you cannot win a superbowl without a superior qb. i could argue eli isn't that elite, but he was hot as poop in the playoffs in those SB runs. check wilson's numbers above again. 318 yards in 2 games?

[slacker00]

What was RW supposed to do? Run up a bunch of fantasy stats instead of trying to win football games?

Plenty of better "stat" QBs never won a Super Bowl. It takes a complete team to win, not a stat line.

[freakydave]

this line is terrible. how it didn't open at den 4 blows my mind. are you people fukkin smokin crack?!!?

Wilson:

25/43 for 318 yards
1 TD
0 Int

that is 2 fukking games!!!!!

why all the focus on manning?

it is this simple sometimes you fukks. answer this one question? which qb will come through if he is forced 'to win the game'?

wilson's job is 'to not lose games'. you guys seriously believe denver can take away run vs Pats with Brady at qb but can't do the same to Wilson? complete mismatch. should i go on? since 2003, winning qb in SB:

brady
brady
big ben
peyton
eli
big ben
brees
rodgers
eli
flacco.

so flacco may only be a step or two ahead of wilson at this point, but he also only had to beat kaepernick. you see the pattern there? you cannot win a superbowl without a superior qb. i could argue eli isn't that elite, but he was hot as poop in the playoffs in those SB runs. check wilson's numbers above again. 318 yards in 2 games?

Go ahead & put your money on Noodle arm & a D missing 5 starters nobody is stopping you.

[statnerds]

They run the ball well & wilson had been playing shorthanded for most of the season. Denver's Dfence(imo) is vastly overrated

but Hawks D is properly valued? holy shate man!!! are we going to pretend that Brees didn't shred their D in the 2nd H? or are we going to say they were in a prevent to start the 3rd quarter.

this game ain't at home. this game ain't against some slack arse offense. i mean i can try to prove to you that their D is also vastly over rated. true they shut down brees the first time, but they also gave up 400+ yards in the 2nd meeting...at home...in 40 degree, rainy weather. also happens to be the only top 10 offense they played all year. played the following offenses this year

4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 31, 32

normally you would say these things smooth out over 16 games, but when you have 4 games (25% of your schedule) vs the 3 worst offenses in the league (rams 2X at number 30) and none against the 3 best, it is hard to argue that their stats aren't skewed. true you would expect 16 games to give you a good idea, but again, 10 of your games against the bottom 10 offenses in the NFL? you don't think that had any effect on their 'number one' ranking? oklahoma man!!!! can you even tell me how many 'above average' offenses they faced this year? 2? 3? their D is over rated and their qb is mud. but lets just pretend the houston game didn't happen (game was over, fukking shaub), we will pretend brees didn't throw for 400 yards, we will pretend the blew the 49ers out and didn't need a superman play from sherman. meanwhile broncos cruised in both of their wins.

[slacker00]

Statnerd, your stats aren't making any sense. Saints are one of the best offenses in the league.

[statnerds]

Plenty of better "stat" QBs never won a Super Bowl. It takes a complete team to win, not a stat line.

i got what you are saying...and it is definitely provable by all the SB champs vince young, josh freeman, mark snachez, matt cassel, david garrard, jason campbell, jon kitna, derek anderson, kerry collins, jimmy clausen, jake delhomme, and chad henne have won.

combined it is zero.

picked those at random for being qbs on the same level as wilson. this is the NFL!!! you cannot win sh!t without an elite QB. end of story.

[statnerds]

Statnerd, your stats aren't making any sense. Saints are one of the best offenses in the league.

i said that part. best offense they played all year. 4th ranked in the NFL. luckily they faced them at home both times. my main point striving to make is that one of these teams comes into this game with a one dimensional offense. the other is the broncos.

[freakydave]

but Hawks D is properly valued? holy shate man!!! are we going to pretend that Brees didn't shred their D in the 2nd H? or are we going to say they were in a prevent to start the 3rd quarter.

this game ain't at home. this game ain't against some slack arse offense. i mean i can try to prove to you that their D is also vastly over rated. true they shut down brees the first time, but they also gave up 400+ yards in the 2nd meeting...at home...in 40 degree, rainy weather. also happens to be the only top 10 offense they played all year. played the following offenses this year

4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 31, 32

normally you would say these things smooth out over 16 games, but when you have 4 games (25% of your schedule) vs the 3 worst offenses in the league (rams 2X at number 30) and none against the 3 best, it is hard to argue that their stats aren't skewed. true you would expect 16 games to give you a good idea, but again, 10 of your games against the bottom 10 offenses in the NFL? you don't think that had any effect on their 'number one' ranking? oklahoma man!!!! can you even tell me how many 'above average' offenses they faced this year? 2? 3? their D is over rated and their qb is mud. but lets just pretend the houston game didn't happen (game was over, fukking shaub), we will pretend brees didn't throw for 400 yards, we will pretend the blew the 49ers out and didn't need a superman play from sherman. meanwhile broncos cruised in both of their wins.

I suggest you take a look at who Denver played their last 10 games. A new england team missing 5 starters on D (after Talib went out) & a chargers squad with a RB playing on a sprained ankle--they cruised alright-& the 2nd half of their regular season wow some real challenges in there.

[slacker00]

i said that part. best offense they played all year. 4th ranked in the NFL. luckily they faced them at home both times. my main point striving to make is that one of these teams comes into this game with a one dimensional offense. the other is the broncos.

Broncos defense is even more one dimensional. Broncos offense is going to look very one dimensional Sunday.

[LeahMichele]

Hall? duh, 1st ballot
Greatest ever? No, maybe 2nd or 3rd but certainly not better than Joe Montana
God? We all know Chuck Norris is God so lets not kid ourself

The early money poured in on Denver. I like Denver(hint fade alert). But there is one very important piece of the puzzle you must figger out before laying a woody on this one;
-ESPN told us 73 times the Pats did not ever touch Manning, so we all know that.
- Seattle WILL touch Manning. They get pressure quickly
- Manning went to secondary receivers and even 3rd options aLLL day vs the Pats. He will be throwing 1st option passes or throwing it away vs seahawks.

As you dissect the props I would figure in that he will probably be closer to 55% competitions vs the seahawk defense and probably be in the 250 yard range or lower.

With all you said in this post, How can you still like Denver. Also, do you think the Broncos D can stop Beast Mode ?

[frostno98]

I guaranteed you Peyton Manning has already watched every single Seahawks game the entire. He has that #1 Seattle D completely dissected, the Seabags is going to be in for a rude awakening. The only way Denver loses is with turnovers, special teams blunder, or the Refs completely letting go of all the holding call the Seattle secondary gets away with.

[LeahMichele]

wow the game hasn't even started and they are already blaming the bad calls.

[slacker00]

I guaranteed you Peyton Manning has already watched every single Seahawks game the entire. He has that #1 Seattle D completely dissected, the Seabags is going to be in for a rude awakening. The only way Denver loses is with turnovers, special teams blunder, or the Refs completely letting go of all the holding call the Seattle secondary gets away with.

I've been putting the officiating team under a serious study for this game, I expect the refs to let them play.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/nfl-bettin...-analysis.html

[Smoke]

[broadway6]

this line is terrible. how it didn't open at den 4 blows my mind. are you people fukkin smokin crack?!!?

Wilson:

25/43 for 318 yards
1 TD
0 Int

that is 2 fukking games!!!!!

why all the focus on manning?

it is this simple sometimes you fukks. answer this one question? which qb will come through if he is forced 'to win the game'?

wilson's job is 'to not lose games'. you guys seriously believe denver can take away run vs Pats with Brady at qb but can't do the same to Wilson? complete mismatch. should i go on? since 2003, winning qb in SB:

brady
brady
big ben
peyton
eli
big ben
brees
rodgers
eli
flacco.

so flacco may only be a step or two ahead of wilson at this point, but he also only had to beat kaepernick. you see the pattern there? you cannot win a superbowl without a superior qb. i could argue eli isn't that elite, but he was hot as poop in the playoffs in those SB runs. check wilson's numbers above again. 318 yards in 2 games?

big ben was a game manager with a great defense.....steelers can't even make the playoffs these days. but people have the guy in the HOF.

[slacker00]

big ben was a game manager with a great defense.....steelers can't even make the playoffs these days. but people have the guy in the HOF.

Every guy on that list was backed by a great defense. Why people focus only on the QB is idiotic.

[NJcap]

Well,denver is tough against the run and they get good pressure and they are not going against a particularly good offense.

ehhh idk about that....if you make it to this stage then I'm thinking your offense is good enough to get a win in any game.....good running game + playmaking qb is an alright combo.....if seattle gets some turnovers they can win this game by at least 10....however seattle will have a tough time coming back if they fell behind 10-14 pts early....im still liking seattle as i think they have the edge

[brooks85]

I guaranteed you Peyton Manning has already watched every single Seahawks game the entire. He has that #1 Seattle D completely dissected, the Seabags is going to be in for a rude awakening. The only way Denver loses is with turnovers, special teams blunder, or the Refs completely letting go of all the holding call the Seattle secondary gets away with.

I remember when revis did this every play and people actually thought he was top notch. Then the playoffs came... flag, flag, flag lol

[Fred The Hammer]

ehhh idk about that....if you make it to this stage then I'm thinking your offense is good enough to get a win in any game.....good running game + playmaking qb is an alright combo.....if seattle gets some turnovers they can win this game by at least 10....however seattle will have a tough time coming back if they fell behind 10-14 pts early....im still liking seattle as i think they have the edge

Thats the difference imo....Denver has more ways to win this game. Seattle has to win the turnover battle and has to win time of possession. They can't win any other way!! On the other hand Manning had the ball for like 18 min vs Miami a few years ago and won the game!! Now the weather is a wildcard and so is Percy Harvin....so prop plays are a much better bet imo!!

[jjgold]

Watch the show Manning puts on Sunday

You will think of him as he second coming

[slacker00]

I remember when revis did this every play and people actually thought he was top notch. Then the playoffs came... flag, flag, flag lol

What game are you talking about? Revis is 4-2 in the playoffs with no penalties in the 2 losses.

[Fred The Hammer]

Hauschka 33 field goals.....Denver up and down the field w/55 td passes and double digit rushing TDs....over 30% fewer field goals at 25 for Prater!! You're not going to beat PFM w/field goals but Seattle is limited in what they can do!!

[slacker00]

Hauschka 33 field goals.....Denver up and down the field w/55 td passes and double digit rushing TDs....over 30% fewer field goals at 25 for Prater!! You're not going to beat PFM w/field goals but Seattle is limited in what they can do!!

Seattle's offense is #8 in scoring this year, hardly limited.

[brooks85]

What game are you talking about? Revis is 4-2 in the playoffs with no penalties in the 2 losses.

lol if you know the stats then you know the answer to which game obviously.

[NJcap]

Seattle's offense is #8 in scoring this year, hardly limited.

Playing sf 3 times panthers 2 and cards 2 that's 7 games vs top defenses...Seattle offense is very battle tested I'm not worried about their o

[freakydave]

Playing sf 3 times panthers 2 and cards 2 that's 7 games vs top defenses...Seattle offense is very battle tested I'm not worried about their o

Amen-The Broncos Offence faced SD 3x KC 2x with their collapsing D oak 2x & throw in NE's stellar D & you have a lot of games vs very poor D