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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    this is really it for me

    yea its only $100

    but i have no monetary value.

    meaning as far as im concerned i need 6 games to win 10k. a win wont equal 191 or 225. itll equal 1 out of 6

    bad day men...drinking way too soon

    now some are saying wait 100 times 6 minus juice isnt close to 10k. fukk that i go MLs and everyone knows it.

    this will be my in game thread so disregard thread

    not gonna lie, a loss will equal me disappearing. why? well because i wont have a reason to check if i have no gambling money
    So is Toronto included in this or not?

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    heres how it will go

    1. im gonna release whatever i like the night before

    2. we will see if it involves RLM because obv i love that

    3. any injuries to cause line

    4. consult 4 people (simplified)

    5. watch line movement

    6. come to one final bet

    ill add final pick to spreadsheet after all this, but ofcourse itll be after game starts. ill submit pick here only like 2 min before tip

    since this is last chance it is why i am trying to be official. problem is when drinking i will not follow guidelines
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    well timberwolves are gonna cover
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    ohhhh late move towards chicago

    down to eastern washington and la kings
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    man so complicated. Just throw darts already

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    Minny will cover. Kevin Love is going to run wild with Noah out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossRoads View Post
    man so complicated. Just throw darts already
    hey chief, i went with the first 3 in main picks

    im really trying to narrow it down now since this is it for me

    Quote Originally Posted by sharper2 View Post
    Minny will cover. Kevin Love is going to run wild with Noah out.
    yea, i wouldve taken them if i didnt add 4 and 5

    but, i also wouldve taken pitt and they are losing right now

    the hardest part now is staying up until 10pm
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    get some jager and redbull

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    In the classic fashion that kills so many of us, you were Langed on Pitt.

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    good thing i skipped pitt on real bet

    no late movement
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    good thing i skipped pitt on real bet

    no late movement
    So your real bet is Timberwolves/EWU/Kings?

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    with the way hockey has been going and is going tonight, im fairly confident la kings might be my first play
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So your real bet is Timberwolves/EWU/Kings?
    not timberwolves, they already started
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    not timberwolves, they already started
    You and I both know "late movement" means dick these days (as does RLM). Books have wised up to this strategy, RR. See Saturday in college hoops. You would've been buried all the way to China if you went with this strategy there.

    Also, books are spooked by KenPom and his "predictions." It's almost laughable now.

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    The RLM is enticing but sharks playing great hockey and the kings have been cold lately. I'd wait for a better bet tomorrow if you're going all in, but good luck with whatever you decide

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    but the thing is i like to look at a line and i say does that make sense.

    with pitt -3.5, -4, -4.5 it didnt

    i shouldve went duke but i didnt

    with la kings, its does this make sense...no it doesnt.

    that is why im really thinking kings are 1st play
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    but the thing is i like to look at a line and i say does that make sense.

    with pitt -3.5, -4, -4.5 it didnt

    i shouldve went duke but i didnt

    with la kings, its does this make sense...no it doesnt.

    that is why im really thinking kings are 1st play
    I agree with what you're saying in theory, but why in the hell would the books make Duke +4 or +4.5 and pay out the Yankees of college basketball as a +170 dog? To me, if Duke was the play, they would've been +2/+2.5. That would've been bait to get most people to take the Devils.

    It's kind of like Iowa/Michigan State on Tuesday. Spartans are +5.5. Books are begging you to take MSU. But like I said, KenPom's shit offsets what the books think; before him, they used to set their lines independently. Now they just copy his homework.

    If you're going to follow this strategy, just stick to pro games. They make more sense as far as reading lines go. College too unpredictable.
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    To me, a good example of how fvcked up the books are right now with KenPom's influence was the Norfolk State/Savannah State line tonight. Norfolk is a dog on the road despite being five games better record-wise than SS. In the old days, you could hammer an "inferior" team like SS and cash it automatically. That's when books were making their own lines. Now they just tail KenPom and get buried, so you really have no idea what to think because oddsmakers don't either. Norfolk is +2, public's 75% on the dog ML, Norfolk wins easily. I saw it happen over and over and over again on Saturday. I can all but guarantee you KenPom had a line on this game that was almost identical to the +2 you saw in Vegas.

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    but archie is sharp

    he had pitt at like what, -8 opening?

    when i saw square books had duke and the line moved, i jumped on pitt
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    but archie is sharp

    he had pitt at like what, -8 opening?

    when i saw square books had duke and the line moved, i jumped on pitt
    Arch isn't a professional oddsmaker, though (and don't get me wrong, I have all the respect for him in the world). Duke will never be +8 vs. anyone. They're still Duke. Bottom line is if they show up the way they did tonight, they can beat anyone -- which is why they're never really worth betting against (or even on). Well that, and Lang had Pitt.

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    either way, pitt (lose) ended up a no play. so did raptors (win?). along with twolves (win?)

    really hoping 1 of last 2 loses if not both
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    either way, pitt (lose) ended up a no play. so did raptors (win?). along with twolves (win?)

    really hoping 1 of last 2 loses if not both
    Why? I'm confused now.

    Pitt's loss killed the parlay, and you said you were going to play them anyway but didn't.

    I'm not understanding why you aren't taking either EWU or the Kings. If you were going to go all-in with a parlay including them, why wouldn't you play them SU?

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    do you guys think the amount of knowledge the average person has their hands on every day has made the books easier to beat.. it just seems like square city all the time now..

    duke was +3.5 at half also... im sure everyone just loaded up on them again at the half also.


    gotta start thinking square in college hoops right now.. maybe not as much nba but defintely in college

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    no i meant i hope raptors and/or twolves dont cover

    im like 0-8 last 8

    these streaks are normal for me, it is why i tend to make all in plays

    i am up for this, cant wait to watch this movement on both games

    i watch pinny for hockey and dsi for basketball...i would prefer watching bookmaker but i now only have account at dsi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    do you guys think the amount of knowledge the average person has their hands on every day has made the books easier to beat.. it just seems like square city all the time now..

    duke was +3.5 at half also... im sure everyone just loaded up on them again at the half also.


    gotta start thinking square in college hoops right now.. maybe not as much nba but defintely in college

    unreal

    guy takes me out of poker and comes in here

    calm down pal, yes i am pissed off you won

    but guy, remember...it is better to be pissed off than pissed on
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    no i meant i hope raptors and/or twolves dont cover

    im like 0-8 last 8

    these streaks are normal for me, it is why i tend to make all in plays

    i am up for this, cant wait to watch this movement on both games

    i watch pinny for hockey and dsi for basketball...i would prefer watching bookmaker but i now only have account at dsi
    Raptors are dead.

    They've made fourth quarter collapsing an artform, and tonight is a rare piece.

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    yep there it is

    line movement

    we are on la kings
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    do you guys think the amount of knowledge the average person has their hands on every day has made the books easier to beat.. it just seems like square city all the time now..

    duke was +3.5 at half also... im sure everyone just loaded up on them again at the half also.


    gotta start thinking square in college hoops right now.. maybe not as much nba but defintely in college
    Agree with this. College basketball is a fvcking square haven now, again, because of KenPom.

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    01/27/2014 @ 07:05 PM NHL [59] LOS ANGELES +125
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    no i meant i hope raptors and/or twolves dont cover

    im like 0-8 last 8

    these streaks are normal for me, it is why i tend to make all in plays

    i am up for this, cant wait to watch this movement on both games

    i watch pinny for hockey and dsi for basketball...i would prefer watching bookmaker but i now only have account at dsi
    Pinny opened at +138 on your Phoenix bet yesterday and closed at +117. Pinny offered the best money on the board by far on Vancouver. What happened?

    I'm telling you, "late money" and "RLM" don't exist anymore as a profitable venture.

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    thats why i deposited a third and final day in a row pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Agree with this. College basketball is a fvcking square haven now, again, because of KenPom.
    I still believe in sharps and squares with nfl/nba.. but not with either college sport or definitely not like it use to be...
    I have no idea about nhl or mlb though

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    my spreadsheet isnt fukkin working
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    thats why i deposited a third and final day in a row pal

    Good luck as usual. I don't know shit about the NHL, but I'll root it on for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    I still believe in sharps and squares with nfl/nba.. but not with either college sport or definitely not like it use to be...
    I have no idea about nhl or mlb though
    I just think the lines are much more "accurate" (or manipulated, depending on your belief) in the pro game. By in large, Vegas gives you a layup or two a night in the NBA and the NFL.

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