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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocks View Post
    If the game was rigged why did the refs wait till overtime. If I was a ref with money one the game I would make damn sure the game didn't get to OT, game would be over before half time. By the way I think its a bullshit call and a bullshit rule.
    amen. that's what I always say about these games that have ridiculous outcomes which leads others to believe it was fixed. If the darn thing was really fixed, all you need to do is maybe not call offensive pass interference on a Jets touchdown or call an extra holding call against NEP.

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    But could it be the game wasn't fixed by the refs but was fixed by the players. Could the Patriot player be on the fix so he caused the penalty when the field goal was missed? This is what the OP meant.

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    I posted on here last week about the Dallas game being fixed. I have a sickness and want to bet no matter what. The books know we are just a bunch of degenerates and will be back next week betting these totally controlled games. I am going to give it my best effort to go to the casino and play poker for my fix. I do ok at it for awhile and then I start gambling it up too much and lose. But, I am in control of what goes in the pot and the cards are random. The NFL has become a production not a sport. I quit watching college football as of this week. The quality of college ball is no longer worth my time. Try to pick losers if you are losing. The lines manipulate your thinking to take the juicy pick. If it seems to good to be true bet the other way. It sickens me the direction the NFL went, but it become such a huge business you had to expect it to be controlled by who controls all money the PHUCKEN JEWS!!! There is your answer to the problem. Phuck the NFL it is a show we tune into weekly not a sport!! Best of luck to all even the dipshyts that say its not fixed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Boy View Post
    Flag was thrown at time of kick, you can see it flying in air
    ya wtf is this guy talking about. ref was facing los with back to goal posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy88 View Post
    C-Gold is a racist.
    Speedy88 is a bitch who sucks dicks.

    Come meet me in Chicago you f-ing pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    these rules are created just for what it did today. They help in the gambling aspect. Just like the muff punt rule. Why is this not a live fumble? That would be because 9 out of ten times it is a shit team they need to cover who fumbles the punt. I have seen more than one occasion a heavily bet team would cover because of a run back of a muff punt. Since they can't advance it they just take a knee. Nothing different today. A rule to control betting. Why don't these bizarre calls ever benefit the public? Like the fellow said. Ne was the biggest bet team in the 1 oclock time slot. Not even close.
    Right.

    This was the first time this penalty was ever called. EVER.

    You think that ref standing at the 40 yard line looked through those players and saw pushing? How would he even get a view of that?

    What about the Jet player holding the Patriot in the middle of that scrum?

    If this was quarter 2 of the Rams/Panthers game that nobody bet, do you honestly believe they make that call? NO, it is in the Public Patriots game that everybody bet on, probably the most public team at 1 PM against the Jets. Then you see the fishy call. Yet some people can't put 2 and 2 together?

    I'll admit this game wasn't rigged if you admit those NBA games were never rigged.

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    What a new rule this year pushing? LMAO The Fix was in[[[ did any one get name of Ref and find out if he made bet with 5Dimes or another sports book on line!!!!! LOL

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    Almost all degenerate sports betters, "The games are fixed by the refs."

    Maybe you're not good at betting sports!!!

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    Only reason I don't think it was fixed......Stephen Hill called for offensive pass inference which was very questionable in the middle of the 4th quarter on a 50 yard TD....Would have put Jets up by 10, but instead left the Jets vulnerable up by only 3 with half the 4th quarter remaining

    Also, no holding penalties or any of that on the Patriots last drive of regulation where they tied the game up and could have taken the lead

    When it comes down to it, the player did break the rule....It was put in place this season because they don't want a bunch of players just lining up like a train and busting through the field goal protection....for injury reasons more than anything

    Ref has some balls calling it at that time but it was the correct call

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    Lol OP private messages me and threatens me. What a tool, another internet thug.

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    I had money on NE and sad to say NY Jets penetrating owned NE for the majority of the game. Brady played like a c unt muscle, for all the GOAT calls after the NO game, he sure shut those up for good.

    BS call or not, I have my doubts that NE would have been able to win in OT anyway.

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    That was my whole bookmaker balance the refs knew nick folk wasn't going to hit a 56 yard field goal giving the patriots a free win at mid field.
    Its just as worse than monkey ball (NBA)

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    Call was obviously poor but Jets could have easily won in regulation. My five plays went 3-2 and didn't involve this game but Jets out gained them by 100 yards, killed in time of possession and Brady was 22 of 46 passing and this was rigged?? Pats were lucky to even be in the game to the end.
    Plus NE got the ball first in OT and didnt do shiet with it...

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    thank god all those whiny bitches in this thread got fukked in this game
    How can you bet on some sport and act like that after your bet loses?
    Gambling was not made for pussies like you.

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    Anytime i say it people jump all over me but i will repeat, IN ALL SPORTS, from College Football, NFL, NBA, MLB, TENNIS, SOCEER, BOXING, almost ALL SPORTS HAVE AN ELEMENT OF MATCH FIXING. Sports is more like SPORTS BUSINESS ENTERTAINMENT rather than Olympic sport competition. Sports is about BUSINESS, making $$$ even in college ranks. The leagues market their star players and teams for big bucks, newbie bettors bet on popular teams and the line gets set. Depending on the degree of how much money is on the popular team determines which side will win, that's a very general model of what i believe is happening. It's easy to hide because good teams can still win but not cover, "nobody gets hurt". Vegas has people everywhere, they have refs, they have players, they have coaches. It only takes one UMP to call a strike a ball (Kershaw), or to call a fumble a dead ball so there's no TD, or number of scenarios that can either put points up, take points down, ruin momentum etc. Whenever the public is all over one side maybe over 65%, good chance it will be an "entertaining" game. Some people say Vegas is so smart because they can predict the line close to the outcome, i think the people involved in the game play to the lines, but not everyone is on the same side. The spread, the total, over/under, money line all of it usually comes down to a last second play...to keep you entertained and watching (RATINGS). Only in the rare cases of blowout wins, if you take the over your bet could be safe early, but mostly in all other cases you gotta sweat it out until the end. I believe there's an element of rigging for sure, you just gotta be on the right side and maybe even try not to bet on popular games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    Exactly!

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    A few scenarios played out today.

    1.New England call. Blatant fix to say the least

    2. Kansas Chiefs vs a rookie running back. Kansas favored by 6. QB making questionable throws leading by 1. Lots of turnovers. Suddenly fumble by rookie QB close to goal line. KC player picks up ball , is not down, goes into end zone. Touchdown not given. KC does not challenge. Goes on to kneel to end match. KC backers screwed.

    3. Denver is driving and at 2 or so yard line. Popular bet for ML at least. They throw all the way there and all of a sudden, a small Running Back is put in ( probably with instructions) and proceeds to fumble. Manning all over hugging Colts officials and players after the game.

    Too much coincidence. The only way to win these games is to find the most popular games and put money on the team that does not make sense at all

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    What guys need to do who believe this stuff is rigged is take the guys who think u are crazy and tuck their screen names in a nice little spot in their favorite places. Now take this collection of naive nitwits and see if u can get a consensus of games the following week. Just fade them. Don't waste your time arguing with a bunch of unreachable people. Use them to ur advantage. If u can't tell from Brady's body of work this year on how he has made huge money forthe books by playing badly than ya never will. Thursday night all one sided action he plays horribly against the Jets. Same thing yesterday. Same thing against Cincy when he had lopsided money on him and same thing when he was the most heavily bet with Buffalo the first game of the year. Then when everyone bet New Orleans against him he comes up big. Brady can control a game anyway he wants. He wasn't always like this but after he got a few superbowls the league had their little talk with him. Look at his last few super bowls. Look at his playoff loss to the jets where nobody was playing the Jets and he was short hopping every throw against Marc Sanchez for goodness sakes. The guy is a fantastic quarterback who could probably put up 60 points a game if he wanted to or was allowed. This is a trillion dollar business world wide. To think none of this goes on is amazing.

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    Sure is funny how many Italians are Head coaches and refs. Are the Italians that good at these particular jobs? Kind of like how the Jews dominate TV and news shows. The Jews own the stations tell us to not be racist and to exhibit fair hiring practices. But, nobody ever calls BS on them. Same in sports they run it they Phuck you and you take it!! Baaaa Baaaa SHEEP we are just a bunch of Pucie sheep. The reason blacks and whites hate each other is because the JEWS keep the fire fueled in the media. The poor(?) JEWS how we won't call em what they are because they made up the rule of anti-sematism(wrong spelling phuck em!) when you control you get to make up all the rules. Sound familiar? Making up rules all the time to help the "Process" we are just a bunch of dipshits to keep betting. Go to the casino you know the odds are against you, but it isn't a bunch of old ass farts making BS calls putting the phucks to ya. I hope I can stay strong and leave the sport I have coached for 15 years and loved to watch for 35 years. It has become a bunch pucie asses with no discipline shitting all over the game. Along with all the pucie ass rules put in place to protect their investments. PHUCK the sport PHUCK the fans PHUCK everybody that sticks with this shyt there is nothing to enjoy about it!!!!!!!! I am not a racist just can't phuckin take the troll ass JEWS pulling all the strings and they are the most physically weak people on earth. ok maybe a lil bit racist(lol) but phuck you if you can't see what is in front of you!! Peace

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    From the replay I really couldnt tell if he was pushing, all I saw was him in the middle just rushing forward.

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    This is obvious, the people denying it either work for the books or are extremely naive. All throughout history there has been cheating in sports betting, some people got caught, most haven't. Just because a big scandal hasn't hit front pages recently doesn't mean its not a regular occurrence.

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    That call was bad but Brady played like shiet yesterday. NE Defense was very vulnerable with talib and mayo and kelly out. If you bet NE on this game, you were hoping Brady would have a good game like I did cause their D reverts back to 2009 when they couldnt stop a nosebleed.

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    You know, Thor4140, your post makes a lot of sense. Just fade the most public play especially on the spreads. Guys dont want to believe this is fixed because it makes them feel good. Imagine, if we all admit this stuff is fixed, at some level thats an indictment on ourselves. That we are giving away our lunch money.

    I saw the post game interview. Rex Ryan almost was laughing when asked about the call. Look at how he was flipping his hands after field goal was missed. It was not blocked. This is theatre at best.

    As for Tom Brady, I would have to believe he is on it too. How is that in all these games, the better QB makes funny plays and keeps the game close. How does NE make Geno Smith look so good. Its all too good to be true

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    I agree this garbage has turned into a seedy production the referees have the ability to call a multitude of penalties nearly every play for either team if they want to.The NFL is just a entertainment value for drunk sports fans everything bleeds of low quality the commentary compliments this considering half the time they don't even know what the penalties are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasto View Post
    2. Kansas Chiefs vs a rookie running back. Kansas favored by 6. QB making questionable throws leading by 1. Lots of turnovers. Suddenly fumble by rookie QB close to goal line. KC player picks up ball , is not down, goes into end zone. Touchdown not given. KC does not challenge. Goes on to kneel to end match. KC backers screwed.
    First of all, you show how clueless you are by saying KC does not challenge. They cannot challenge that play since it is subject to automatic review. Second of all, the KC Chief was clearly down by contact. It isn't even close. I have no idea what your problem is with that play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    First of all, you show how clueless you are by saying KC does not challenge. They cannot challenge that play since it is subject to automatic review. Second of all, the KC Chief was clearly down by contact. It isn't even close. I have no idea what your problem is with that play.
    You're right about this, the play was under 2 mins and could not be reviewed BUT if you watched that game you knew after KC went up by 1 pt, Andy Reid wanted no parts of scoring a TD for the cover, you could tell by the play calling from that point on until the knee at the opp 1 yard line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Only reason I don't think it was fixed......Stephen Hill called for offensive pass inference which was very questionable in the middle of the 4th quarter on a 50 yard TD....Would have put Jets up by 10, but instead left the Jets vulnerable up by only 3 with half the 4th quarter remaining

    Also, no holding penalties or any of that on the Patriots last drive of regulation where they tied the game up and could have taken the lead

    When it comes down to it, the player did break the rule....It was put in place this season because they don't want a bunch of players just lining up like a train and busting through the field goal protection....for injury reasons more than anything

    Ref has some balls calling it at that time but it was the correct call
    the player did not break the rule unless you see the rule as it was updated after the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckycharms2012 View Post
    You're right about this, the play was under 2 mins and could not be reviewed BUT if you watched that game you knew after KC went up by 1 pt, Andy Reid wanted no parts of scoring a TD for the cover, you could tell by the play calling from that point on until the knee at the opp 1 yard line.
    They took a knee because a td would only put them up 8 and Houston would get the ball back with time on the clock. Take a knee and the game's over. Reid doesn't give two sh*ts about whether you cover or not. Enough already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckycharms2012 View Post
    You're right about this, the play was under 2 mins and could not be reviewed BUT if you watched that game you knew after KC went up by 1 pt, Andy Reid wanted no parts of scoring a TD for the cover, you could tell by the play calling from that point on until the knee at the opp 1 yard line.
    What play calling? What did Reid do that any one of the 31 other HC's in the NFL wouldn't do? He had a 4th quarter lead, and played it conservatively. What's he supposed to do? Run a no huddle, run-n-shoot style offense with 4 minutes to go and a 1 point lead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan View Post
    the player did not break the rule unless you see the rule as it was updated after the game
    The rule did not change at any point yesterday. An article about the rule was corrected, but nothing in the actual rulebook itself was changed. Furthermore, there are plenty of articles from the offseason which accurate described the rule. Some NFL.com writer messed up. No big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    no they weren't Jets was the biggest sharp bet side of the week. You rarely see a line move from 4.5 down to all the way a FG. Sharps were all over the Jets.
    I guess that makes me a sharp-lol-the line didn't move at all opened at 3.5-(at the greek )stayed there -to the op- there are missed calls & bad calls in every game it's part of betting--this week the refs emphasized offencive pi next week the same push off will just be a great play
    get over it

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    lmfao at those who think Brady was in on the fix.
    He makes a million a season.
    How much do you think it would take to bribe him?

    Brady ain't risking his reputation, and his after pro career over a fixed game.

    Now, if you want to say there are fixed NFL games, I will listen, there are thousands that say the Steeler/Seahawk SB was fixed, but to say the face of the NFL was in on the fix, is ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dombrow3 View Post
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