[jjgold]

Its seem they can school them, maybe becaus they invented sportsbetting?? So creative, savy and know how to post lines that are tough to beat. I do not care what the juice is, its all about ROI for the book.

[brettels]

Dude, seriously! Why.

[Smoke]

Anyone that wants sportsbooks vids just e-mail me requests

I have lots of private good ones..

[Spacefrog]

Anyone that wants sportsbooks vids just e-mail me requests

I have lots of private good ones..

I dont want to look ignorant, but what are "vids"?

[Fishhead]

WTF?

[vividjohn45]

Chicken and egg trick question

[Smoke]

I dont want to look ignorant, but what are "vids"?

Videos

[easyliving]

Anyone that wants sportsbooks vids just e-mail me requests

I have lots of private good ones..

more info please.

[shaunovery]

euro books much better

bet365, betfair just 2 to name but there lines are the same as us books better deposit and withdrawal options with no fees

[jjgold]

More lines offered by euro books

More educated bookmakers

More savy bettors

[brettels]

Euro is offshore

[jjgold]

William Hill, Ladbrokes..not offshore

[Scorpion]

Its seem they can school them, maybe becaus they invented sportsbetting?? So creative, savy and know how to post lines that are tough to beat. I do not care what the juice is, its all about ROI for the book.

bullshit, euro books are gutless, they will close you account if you win $200

[KiDBaZkiT]

William Hill, Ladbrokes..not offshore

This is true. William Hill has a book about an hour and a half away from me you can go to in person and bet
You should see the Sunday crowd during football. Lol I may have to make my first video.

[brettels]

depending on your location

[TennisProFrance]

I am a professional gambler, have been for many many years. I don't think I could make it in the US with all your out dated methods and how hard it is for you guys, you poor guys are in the dark ages when it comes to gambling. I was in Miami for 2 months earlier this year, but I operated like I was in the UK (VPN's etc..) so it's possible for you guys you just need to somehow get residence details for the UK. I would adapt my style of course but I honestly doubt I could be a pro with such restrictions on what you do. I feel for you guys.

[TennisProFrance]

bullshit, euro books are gutless, they will close you account if you win $200

Nonsense. It's betting methods that get you shut down not how much you win.

[juuso]

Euro books are superior with theri banking options and customer service. Most of them are just sharp and will limit advantage players quite fast. Betfair is solid for Tennis and Soccer, but still prefer pinnacle and Betcris family of books for US sports.

[jjgold]

I am a professional gambler, have been for many many years. I don't think I could make it in the US with all your out dated methods and how hard it is for you guys, you poor guys are in the dark ages when it comes to gambling. I was in Miami for 2 months earlier this year, but I operated like I was in the UK (VPN's etc..) so it's possible for you guys you just need to somehow get residence details for the UK. I would adapt my style of course but I honestly doubt I could be a pro with such restrictions on what you do. I feel for you guys.

You get it man!!!!!

Also the uk and other euro books software is just superior it always has been but dont forget they have way more money than offshore places to play with.

great programmers

[Lookingtostart]

Soccer.

[Fishhead]

Been doing consulting work in Australia the last few months, no country in the world has more gaming sharps per capita than Australia and this is a fact.

[Applejax]

british bookmakers suk donkey kok

im british

[King_Suckerman]

british bookmakers suk donkey kok

im british

Are you a bookmaker?

[onemoregoal]

Are you a bookmaker?

He cant answer, his mouth is full....

[Scorpion]

british bookmakers suk donkey kok

im british

roger moore and tony blair are gay, everybody in uk knows W fuked tony in the ass

i was in london 6 months ago and there were just so many on the streets waling and holding hands

[brettels]

Been doing consulting work in Australia the last few months, no country in the world has more gaming sharps per capita than Australia and this is a fact.

do tell all

[Sawyer]

Eurobooks are bleeding..

[jjgold]

Eurobooks are bleeding..

Clarify please????????????

[Lookingtostart]

Clarify please????????????

Bleeding marvellous.

[jjgold]

Euro books are flourishing..they know how to run a book and keep it very afloat

[Sawyer]

Clarify please????????????

Euro books are flourishing..they know how to run a book and keep it very afloat

Not really. They're very bad at this actually. First of all, they're too slow. Too slow to change lines/update odds. Stakes? They're not confident with their lines/odds so limits are low. Limit Problem? They limit you quick if you're a winning player.

The only good thing about european bookmakers is bet variety. Sure, unlike Pinnacle; there's lots of options there..but that's all. Actually, they're super-precious since they're too slow to change/update lines/odds but the other side of the medallion is..they limit you quick and say good bye if you're a sharp player..

European style bookmakers make profits from the European market, because unluckily for them, they failed to integrate is the far east, where the big money and the big volume is. European bookmakers tried for several years to invade in China and neighboring countries. This effort started around 2000, and finished in 2007.


Then, European Bookmakers decided to focus again in the European market, and that is why you see 20-30 bookmakers being advertised in T-Shirts of big football clubs, eg, Milan, Real Madrid, etc. Unfortunately for them, the financial crisis struck the UK at the early stages of it 07-09 and then countries of Southern Europe, starting from Greece, then Portugal, Italy, Spain.
Again, unluckily for European bookies, the biggest percentage of their volumes comes from the above mentioned countries. As a result, the volumes coming from these countries became less and less.


Now, who are the players that reduced volumes? They are square bettors. People that bet 10-20 euros sitting in front of the TV eating pizza and drinking beer.


And who are the players that didn't reduce volumes? They are arbers, traders, value bet hunters, sharp bettors and bonus abusers.


As a result, European books were bleeding and they couldn't afford having all these good guys in their client's list. Just because, all the small square players were vanished.


It was common logic that European books should protect them selves from this kind of action, so they became very hostile against big players.


-Accounts limited after 3rd bet.
-Bigger margins appeared.
-Many cases of payment refusal or slow payments especially from small and medium size bookmakers.


What happens when a ''wise'' guy finds his accounts limited from the very beginning? How could he maintain the height of his profits? The answer was very simple. Multiple ids, multiple accounts.


Again, that triggered an even harsher reaction from European books because they were bleeding to death. You can't bet more than 100 euros with an European bookie without facing checks and double checks. Bonuses are now very limited. Remember the 1000 euros bonus of Mansion? Those days are long gone!

[davidchong]

eurobooks knows when to close the door to a player, doing well last month, maded 40k for a 30k profit all time, now i am limited to risk any amount to a $15 max win on any event.

[onemoregoal]

Not really. They're very bad at this actually. First of all, they're too slow. Too slow to change lines/update odds. Stakes? They're not confident with their lines/odds so limits are low. Limit Problem? They limit you quick if you're a winning player.

The only good thing about european bookmakers is bet variety. Sure, unlike Pinnacle; there's lots of options there..but that's all. Actually, they're super-precious since they're too slow to change/update lines/odds but the other side of the medallion is..they limit you quick and say good bye if you're a sharp player..

European style bookmakers make profits from the European market, because unluckily for them, they failed to integrate is the far east, where the big money and the big volume is. European bookmakers tried for several years to invade in China and neighboring countries. This effort started around 2000, and finished in 2007.


Then, European Bookmakers decided to focus again in the European market, and that is why you see 20-30 bookmakers being advertised in T-Shirts of big football clubs, eg, Milan, Real Madrid, etc. Unfortunately for them, the financial crisis struck the UK at the early stages of it 07-09 and then countries of Southern Europe, starting from Greece, then Portugal, Italy, Spain.
Again, unluckily for European bookies, the biggest percentage of their volumes comes from the above mentioned countries. As a result, the volumes coming from these countries became less and less.


Now, who are the players that reduced volumes? They are square bettors. People that bet 10-20 euros sitting in front of the TV eating pizza and drinking beer.


And who are the players that didn't reduce volumes? They are arbers, traders, value bet hunters, sharp bettors and bonus abusers.


As a result, European books were bleeding and they couldn't afford having all these good guys in their client's list. Just because, all the small square players were vanished.


It was common logic that European books should protect them selves from this kind of action, so they became very hostile against big players.


-Accounts limited after 3rd bet.
-Bigger margins appeared.
-Many cases of payment refusal or slow payments especially from small and medium size bookmakers.


What happens when a ''wise'' guy finds his accounts limited from the very beginning? How could he maintain the height of his profits? The answer was very simple. Multiple ids, multiple accounts.


Again, that triggered an even harsher reaction from European books because they were bleeding to death. You can't bet more than 100 euros with an European bookie without facing checks and double checks. Bonuses are now very limited. Remember the 1000 euros bonus of Mansion? Those days are long gone!

Some of that is true. But you fail to mentioned the bigger euro books ie Willhill, Ladbrokes have shops across all of UK that generates a lot of income. The introduction of Roulette machines has been a big money spinner. William hills share price is also at its peak or thereabouts.

Then you have crap on their sites - like Bingo, Casino fukking Backgammon etc which will again ensure easy money for the book. Theres a market for bingo in UK and its BIG business, bored housewives, old grannies etc etc it all adds up.

William hill and Ladbrokes arent bleeding to death, im certain of this, but specifically in terms of sportsbetting - they arent the sharpest but maybe theres a reason for this. And Im pretty sure its just because they chose not to have sharps as their customers, and prefer to exploit the vulnerable.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...caine-gambling

[jjgold]

There are just tons of euro books popping up, they all just rent software I guess

All have lots of payment methods but do not know how safe the smaller ones are

[TennisProFrance]

Needs to be a distinction made between UK and Euro books. UK books are in good shape, are huge listed organisations, while Euro books are, in the main, poor.