1. 04-01-13 10:13 AM #1
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    Elvis Andrus with Rangers om an 8 years 120 mill extension

    http://www.rotoinfo.com/playerupdate...vis-Andrus-SS/

    not that bad i guess for a 24 year old


    elvis andrus agrees with the rangers on an 8 year 120 mill contract extension ******
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  2. 04-01-13 10:15 AM #2
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    ridiculous
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  3. 04-01-13 10:17 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    ridiculous
    money gettn thrown out like crazy in baseball .. pretty soon the minimum will be 6 million
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  4. 04-01-13 10:17 AM #4
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    is this guy even good?!
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  5. 04-01-13 10:17 AM #5
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    These contracts are out of control.
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  6. 04-01-13 10:17 AM #6
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    getting twice as much as he's worth

    every recent contract has been insane

    Strange decision considering he was under contract for two more years. Why overpay now?
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  7. 04-01-13 10:19 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    is this guy even good?!
    hes about average .. playing in texas in that hitters ballpark probably helps .. idk the stats though .. all i know is hes young
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  8. 04-01-13 10:19 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    getting twice as much as he's worth

    every recent contract has been insane

    Its Texas where their motto is:

    we pay more for the mediocre
    Last edited by Vegas39; 04-01-13 at 10:35 AM.
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  9. 04-01-13 10:20 AM #9
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    everything is bigger in texas lol
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  10. 04-01-13 10:21 AM #10
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    well he is definitely NOT average.

    but still seems to be a big risk
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    YEAR TEAM GP AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS WAR
    2009 145 480 72 128 17 8 6 40 40 77 33 6 .267 .329 .373 .702 3.3
    2010 148 588 88 156 15 3 0 35 64 96 32 15 .265 .342 .301 .643 0.9
    2011 150 587 96 164 27 3 5 60 56 74 37 12 .279 .347 .361 .708 4.0
    2012 158 629 85 180 31 9 3 62 57 96 21 10 .286 .349 .378 .727 3.4
    2013 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 --
    Total Total 602 2288 341 628 90 23 14 197 217 345 123 43 .274 .342 .352 .694 --
    Season Averages 120.0 457.6 68.2 125.6 18.0 4.6 2.8 39.4 43.4 69.0 24.6 8.6 .274 .342 .352 .694 --
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  12. 04-01-13 10:24 AM #12
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    These ridiculous contracts are making the Astros owner look more and more like a fing genius.
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  13. 04-01-13 10:25 AM #13
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    kershaw might get 30 million a year
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  14. 04-01-13 10:29 AM #14
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    gotta look at all the other Shortstops in baseball

    they all suck right now

    Guy was near the top for WAR and OPS last year for shortstops.

    he'd be a below average corner infielder or outfielder for sure though!!!
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  15. 04-01-13 10:32 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    well he is definitely NOT average.

    but still seems to be a big risk
    Hasn't proven much to the contrary so far.
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  16. 04-01-13 10:37 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    gotta look at all the other Shortstops in baseball

    they all suck right now

    Guy was near the top for WAR and OPS last year for shortstops.

    he'd be a below average corner infielder or outfielder for sure though!!!
    it's a down period for SSs for sure, but a guy whose OPS and WAR are as low as Andrus's...

    he doesn't deserve 15 million a year.

    OPS+ by season: 82, 72, 89, 91

    lol

    I would've offered 4 years, 32 million.

    If the agent says no, I still have him for two more seasons.
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  17. 04-01-13 10:52 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    idk the stats though
    He's what I call a second tier SS, first tier would be a healthy Tulo, the next tier are the Jimmy Rollins and the Starlin Castro's of the world. He's in there.
    He's better than a Asdrubal Cabrera of the Indians, not quite as good as Jose Reyes.
    Unlike Reyes who seems to be on the DL twice a year, Andrus has played virtually every game of his 4 year career. Rookie of the Year runner up in '09, two time all star already, 285 hitter, nice OBA guy, around .350, with speed to burn. Will steal 30 bases a year, that's a given. No home run pop, but name me (besides Tulo) that does.
    Steady shortstop, good, not great range according to fangraphs.com

    Overpaid at 15 mil per year, but the SS pool is thin, and manager Washington says he is working hard on discipline at the plate, (did he .414 this spring) is a work out beast I hear, and a good clubhouse guy.

    Yes Brock, he is good, not 15 mil per year good.
    4 years at 12 mil per would have been more than generous.
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  18. 04-01-13 10:56 AM #18
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    what was his WAR last year?

    where did that rank among SS's
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  19. 04-01-13 11:02 AM #19
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    ^
    3.7 WAR, almost 4 games better than replacement.
    Give me a minute, let's see how that ranks against his peers.
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  20. 04-01-13 11:04 AM #20
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    Horrible contract. Good for the young guy.
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  21. 04-01-13 11:06 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    where did that rank among SS's
    Tied for second with Castro last year, only better WAR rating was Aybar, best in the majors for SS's at 4.0

    I like Aybar a lot by the way, did not realize he was tops.
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  22. 04-01-13 11:06 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    Horrible contract. Good for the young guy.
    From all accounts though, he's a guy you want on your team
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    From all accounts though, he's a guy you want on your team
    Sure but at that salary?
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  24. 04-01-13 11:11 AM #24
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    thanks Nasher

    well people must not like having a top SS signed to big money because they guy won't be in his prime during the contract years

    could that be it?
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  25. 04-01-13 11:11 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    Sure but at that salary?
    Give me that salary I'll play SS, do the team laundry and scrub the toilets.
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  26. 04-01-13 11:12 AM #26
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    Does money grow on trees for baseball?
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  27. 04-01-13 11:12 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    thanks Nasher

    well people must not like having a top SS signed to big money because they guy won't be in his prime during the contract years

    could that be it?
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  28. 04-01-13 11:13 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Give me that salary I'll play SS, do the team laundry and scrub the toilets.
    I would hire 3 mexicans to do the laundry and scrub the toilets if I was you. You can afford them with that salary.
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  29. 04-01-13 11:14 AM #29
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    Texas coulda had Clint Barmes at 5.5 million for a few years


    they focked up
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  30. 04-01-13 11:16 AM #30
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    This is what Tulo just got.

    Year Age Team Salary Sources Notes/Other Sources
    2007 22 Colorado Rockies $381,000
    2008 23 Colorado Rockies $750,000
    2009 24 Colorado Rockies $1,000,000
    2010 25 Colorado Rockies $3,500,000
    2011 26 Colorado Rockies $5,500,000
    2012 27 Colorado Rockies $8,250,000 contracts
    2013 28 Colorado Rockies $10,000,000
    2014 29 Colorado Rockies $16,000,000
    2015 30 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
    2016 31 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
    2017 32 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
    2018 33 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
    2019 34 Colorado Rockies $20,000,000
    2020 35 Colorado Rockies $14,000,000
    2021 36 Colorado Rockies *$15,000,000 $15M Team Option, $4M Buyout
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  31. 04-01-13 11:24 AM #31
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    Asdrubal Cabrera is better than him
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  32. 04-01-13 11:28 AM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchito View Post
    Asdrubal Cabrera is better than him
    No he's not
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  33. 04-01-13 04:46 PM #33
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    6 years 72 million i think would have been good
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  34. 04-01-13 05:05 PM #34
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    what about Jurickson Profar? This makes no sense.
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  35. 04-01-13 07:28 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by WvGambler View Post
    what about Jurickson Profar? This makes no sense.
    They did this to send a message to Ian Kinsler to move to 1B or OF so Profar can come up, and to give the team options for Giancarlo Stanton
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