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    Doc's Red/orange tracking: totals and individuals

    Jan 19-present orange red plays doc's crew:




    These are labelled orange and red. SBR does not allow "game of" if anything, this paints better picture as wins such as a light red IC celtics are equated with losses like SPS' blazing red loss weds. For purposes of this thread, orange is rated between light and dark orange and red between light and blazing red.




    The crew is 19-23 on big plays, going 16-16 on orange and 3-7 on red.
    On big plays alone, -44.1u
    On big plays the crew is hitting 45.2%




    Since Jan 19, the day after RAS went dark and the marketing blitz began:




    The crew is 9-6 on orange NBA
    The crew is 2-5 on red NBA
    The crew is 7-9 on orange NCAAB
    The crew is 1-1 on red NCAAB




    The crew also made 2 big plays on the superbowl, posted into BB threads:
    The crew is 0-1 on red superbowl
    The crew is 0-1 on orange superbowl




    Each individual capper will have a separate post that will detail the individual games comprising this record. When individuals are listed along with their independent tracked records, you can decide for yourself what your opinion of a service which sells "big" plays to you that it rates much weaker when turned in for tracking purposes.




    When you look at records such as these, ask yourself how well must a group that is 30% on red and 50% on orange do on the blue and green that are presumably so much weaker...just to get back to even? Particularly when the majority of those games are blue:green at less than a 4:1 ratio?




    Remember it was RF who said "55% is a GREAT handicapper"




    To get it back to even over 100 games:
    Try over 68% on green and 62.5% on blue and you'd still be not quite there.


    Over 200 games?
    65% on green and 58% still has you short.


    It tops 400 games before hitting 55% gets you even.




    And if you are 45% on big plays, you ain't hitting 55% on blue over any span.




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    Fun quotes during that time from shills that have already made posts supporting Doc's inThis thread:




    "I know Doc and he's great...but does anyone know about his other guys?"


    same guy 4 days later: "Have you followed Eastman? You should...He's up huge!"




    "I got -3.5 (not -4/-4.5) and won" : twice to people who lost/pushed 4
    "I got -1 and pushed" : response to two who lost at -1.5




    "We had the right side on that big play, we just got screwed" on a big play loss


    "Sick way to lose a game, it was a good play" on a big play loss

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    Did I mention in actually Doc himself?? I'm the biggest docs shill ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboys View Post
    Jan 19-present orange red plays doc's crew:




    These are labelled orange and red. SBR does not allow "game of" if anything, this paints better picture as wins such as a light red IC celtics are equated with losses like SPS' blazing red loss weds. For purposes of this thread, orange is rated between light and dark orange and red between light and blazing red.




    The crew is 19-23 on big plays, going 16-16 on orange and 3-7 on red.
    On big plays alone, -44.1u
    On big plays the crew is hitting 45.2%




    Since Jan 19, the day after RAS went dark and the marketing blitz began:




    The crew is 9-6 on orange NBA
    The crew is 2-5 on red NBA
    The crew is 7-9 on orange NCAAB
    The crew is 1-1 on red NCAAB




    The crew also made 2 big plays on the superbowl, posted into BB threads:
    The crew is 0-1 on red superbowl
    The crew is 0-1 on orange superbowl




    Each individual capper will have a separate post that will detail the individual games comprising this record. When individuals are listed along with their independent tracked records, you can decide for yourself what your opinion of a service which sells "big" plays to you that it rates much weaker when turned in for tracking purposes.




    When you look at records such as these, ask yourself how well must a group that is 30% on red and 50% on orange do on the blue and green that are presumably so much weaker...just to get back to even? Particularly when the majority of those games are blue:green at less than a 4:1 ratio?




    Remember it was RF who said "55% is a GREAT handicapper"




    To get it back to even over 100 games:
    Try over 68% on green and 62.5% on blue and you'd still be not quite there.


    Over 200 games?
    65% on green and 58% still has you short.


    It tops 400 games before hitting 55% gets you even.




    And if you are 45% on big plays, you ain't hitting 55% on blue over any span.




    ****


    Fun quotes during that time from shills that have already made posts supporting Doc's inThis thread:




    "I know Doc and he's great...but does anyone know about his other guys?"


    same guy 4 days later: "Have you followed Eastman? You should...He's up huge!"




    "I got -3.5 (not -4/-4.5) and won" : twice to people who lost/pushed 4
    "I got -1 and pushed" : response to two who lost at -1.5




    "We had the right side on that big play, we just got screwed" on a big play loss


    "Sick way to lose a game, it was a good play" on a big play loss
    Are you actually surprised by any of this.....caveat emptor

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    I thought doc died a few months ago. No joke. Probably new management .ie.....his son ....said we always make more money when we release big play so everyone has to release more....not realizing the more picks the worst they are...so yeah more money in the short term but failure in the long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funguys_2005 View Post
    I thought doc died a few months ago. No joke. Probably new management .ie.....his son ....said we always make more money when we release big play so everyone has to release more....not realizing the more picks the worst they are...so yeah more money in the short term but failure in the long.
    Agreed. They'll soon realize their business model and reputation is becoming a joke with RED after RED losing.

    Wade, when your minions report to you about this thread, take our advice. Build a solid reputation and the money will continue rolling in. RAS has money coming out the ears in subscriptions. You turn yourself into a joke with this barrage of BIG PLAY losers, and you'll be looked upon with the same regard of INTPicks. The jig is up.

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    20-23...

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    Threads like these are great. It helps educate the rookies. I was a rookie once and made these mistakes but never again. I'll never give Docs Sports another dime the rest of my life.

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    Thieves.

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    Sharpe. Red play winner to tonight.
    Docs is awesome!!

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    • Quote Originally Posted by GoofyGrape View Post
      Sharpe. Red play winner to tonight.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoofyGrape View Post
    Docs is awesome!!
    Indeed. Doc's has now skyrocketed to 4 wins out of their last 11 in red plays.


    Sharpe? Not exactly the same as Ted Williams in baseball, but he has reached, but not quite eclipsed, the .400 mark. With this win he has reached 40% on the season, now standing at 6-9 on big plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britton333 View Post
    Did I mention in actually Doc himself?? I'm the biggest docs shill ever.
    I have tried to PM but cannot. Also in reference to post on other thread... Did I mention you specifically ever? I did mention other specifically, not you. A bit confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDTHEWINNERIS View Post
    Are you actually surprised by any of this.....caveat emptor
    i am not surprised at all, but the shills want numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderguy101 View Post
    Threads like these are great. It helps educate the rookies. I was a rookie once and made these mistakes but never again. I'll never give Docs Sports another dime the rest of my life.
    Help make sure others don't as well, raiders.

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    Good stats for sure. Do you have long term stats on their big plays? Feels like 40 somethong games is way to small a number to judge on. I would be more convinced if their record was bad over 5-600 games or more. For me its all about long term.

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