1. 02-01-13 04:40 PM #106
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    kenflo agrees dhk's injury
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  2. 02-01-13 04:43 PM #107
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    injuries happen when you train a lot.....I don't get the argument that since it never happened before, it shouldn't of happened.
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  3. 02-01-13 04:47 PM #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Fitch will bully and smother Maia.

    Not a difficult fight to cap at all.
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  4. 02-01-13 04:48 PM #109
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    i'm just saying it wasnt a complete fluke where his ribs just popped for no reason

    maia was able to pressure a clinch guy hard enough that he hurt himself
    maybe on another occasion kim wouldnt have been hurt, but it doesnt change the fact that maia was able to pressure him in a way that he never experienced
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  5. 02-01-13 04:50 PM #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    i'm just saying it wasnt a complete fluke where his ribs just popped for no reason

    maia was able to pressure a clinch guy hard enough that he hurt himself
    maybe on another occasion kim wouldnt have been hurt, but it doesnt change the fact that maia was able to pressure him in a way that he never experienced
    we just saying he's gonna get smothered this time around
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  6. 02-01-13 04:57 PM #111
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    maybe..but not worth -200
    you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
    I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

    I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
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  7. 02-01-13 04:59 PM #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    maybe..but not worth -200
    you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
    I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

    I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
    Weidman was able to out-position Maia because of his unbelievable ground skill, not his size; they were both severely gassed, also, but there's no way to know who that benefits the most.
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  8. 02-01-13 05:00 PM #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    maybe..but not worth -200
    you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
    I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

    I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
    Fitch aint' weidman...Fitch is gonna bring it from the first minute...
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  9. 02-01-13 05:02 PM #114
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    Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
    i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
    i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
    hey good luck with your Maia bet
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  11. 02-01-13 05:07 PM #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
    i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
    I know for a fact that Weidman had side control for a while. No idea what other positions he had.
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  12. 02-01-13 05:10 PM #117
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    I had a big amount on maia and story just starting round 2, I can't bring myself to pull the trigger this time around
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  13. 02-01-13 05:13 PM #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Weidman was able to out-position Maia because of his unbelievable ground skill, not his size; they were both severely gassed, also, but there's no way to know who that benefits the most.

    thats what scares me the most
    skillwise, i know maia can hang with fitch in the grappling phase
    but maia fades and fitch doesnt
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikesbills24 View Post
    Betting on Maia is laughable. He's a novice on his feet, and extremely adept on the ground. Jon Fitch will not let Maia take him down, if he does, he has enough ability to get back up. Don't let the Hendricks fight fool you. Good punch. Fitch would of grinded him pretty good.

    In my estimation, Fitch should be at -300.
    Penn was able to take him down so dont see why Maia cant. And Fitch isnt exactly Gokhan Saki neither!
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  15. 02-01-13 05:48 PM #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    thats what scares me the most
    skillwise, i know maia can hang with fitch in the grappling phase
    but maia fades and fitch doesnt
    yep, only reason I'm staying away from Maia
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  16. 02-01-13 06:29 PM #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    yep, only reason I'm staying away from Maia
    amazing highlighting technique
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  17. 02-01-13 06:31 PM #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    amazing highlighting technique
    grazie, took many years of practice
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  18. 02-01-13 07:07 PM #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    grazie, took many years of practice
    Gracie it's actually spelled out
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  19. 02-01-13 07:15 PM #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Penn was able to take him down so dont see why Maia cant. And Fitch isnt exactly Gokhan Saki neither!
    he's light years ahead of maia in terms of kickboxing technique and ability. agreed about penn, penn is a freak of nature. that was a good fight. I still think Maia just doesn't matchup well vs. Fitch.

    Like I said, he's getting incredibly underrated because of the loss to Hendricks. He's a stylist nightmare for a lot of fighters because he just wears you down with his wrestling and pace.
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  20. 02-01-13 07:21 PM #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    Fitch aint' weidman...Fitch is gonna bring it from the first minute...

    This is very true. Weidman's a top 3 MW. Fitch isn't a top 5 WW.
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  21. 02-01-13 11:22 PM #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by pouyasophy View Post
    This is very true. Weidman's a top 3 MW. Fitch isn't a top 5 WW.
    Yes, he is. I put him just behind GSP, Hendricks and Condit, and Condit is debatable. Depending on whos "ratings" you go by, most have him around 5th.
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  22. 02-02-13 01:01 AM #127
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    Fitch because AKA gym is on a roll right now.


    Fitch back to his blanketing ways.
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  23. 02-02-13 01:58 AM #128
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    Fitch has some of the best if not the best submission defense in the game. Should be an intresting match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IncomeSports View Post
    Fitch has some of the best if not the best submission defense in the game. Should be an intresting match.
    Indeed, but then he's never thought somebody with the submission game that Maia has. The like of Erick Silva, Chris Wilson, P.Thiago, Gono, Ben Saunders, Mike Pierce and Hendricks were never going to be a threat in that respect
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  25. 02-02-13 04:11 AM #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    Gracie it's actually spelled out
    Que?!
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  26. 02-02-13 05:40 AM #131
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    Hmmm, I'm on the other side. I was big on Fitch>Erik Silva and a lot of people thought I was an idiot, so I in no way underestimate Fitch's skillset at all. But if this fight had been made prior to that, the odds would have been very different. All of a sudden Fitch is apparently unstoppable, and that simply isn't the case, no one is, and the person best suited to doing it is Maia. Prior to the Silva fight that was pretty much the consensus, but now all of a sudden there's been some collective amnesia based on him beating an entirely different kinda fighter in a favourable match-up.

    At 170 Maia is a grappling beast; DHK is much more difficult to takedown than Fitch and Maia got him down easily straight off the bat. Story too, though his tdd is always awful, so that gets little credence other than to show that Maia's gone back to what he's good at. +400 on Maia sub is like a gift from the gods. Your money bro, but I'd at least hedge on the sub.

    Fitch is unsubbable like Leben used to be un-ko'able, giving up his back like free shots to the chin; he's getting cocky at this point and basically asking for it.
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  27. 02-02-13 06:05 AM #132
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    is this on pay per view?
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  28. 02-02-13 06:11 AM #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    is this on pay per view?
    yes
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  29. 02-02-13 07:50 AM #134
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    Fight night BOYS!

    Lets get it pumped up around here!!!
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  30. 02-02-13 08:31 AM #135
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    Decided to tail you, um, I mean POUND IT, since it's -185 at Cantor, which seems like a decent price at this point. Thanks for the pick.
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  31. 02-02-13 08:36 AM #136
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    Can't wait for an upcoming epic burial.. CAN'T FUKKING WAIT!!!!
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    Good luck bigday, i tried my own contest picks today but threw some cash on fitch at -200.

    I'm thinking about parlaying evans/aldo but that move didn't work so well last time with mayan's guy cain kicking our ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    is this on pay per view?
    Just pull it up on firstrowsports if you don't want to spend the cash
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  34. 02-02-13 09:17 AM #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by daimoshokage View Post
    Can't wait for an upcoming epic burial.. CAN'T FUKKING WAIT!!!!
    Chances this fuk stick checks in after Fitch smothers Maia?? +3800
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