[PhillyFlyers]

With 5. Anyone who says he is not moving into elite status or is already there is fooling themselves.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Flacco lead Baltimore to victory this sunday.

[You mad bro]

[QUOTE=PhillyFlyers;17505292]With 5. Anyone who says he is not moving into elite status or is already there is fooling themselves.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Flacco lead Baltimore to victory this sunday.[/QUOTE

He def has guts ... Can he win this weekend tho? I dont know

[PhillyFlyers]

[QUOTE=You mad bro;17505310]

With 5. Anyone who says he is not moving into elite status or is already there is fooling themselves.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Flacco lead Baltimore to victory this sunday.[/QUOTE

He def has guts ... Can he win this weekend tho? I dont know

Yeah he is definitely a gutsy QB. Just look at the touchdown pass he threw to Torrey Smith right before halftime against Denver.

I was like where the fukk did that come from? lol

It'll be tough this weekend no doubt, but I think they can. New England is a good team but they can be beat.

[tto827]

Winning playoff games doesn't make the dude elite. Watch some of the throws he makes, and you will realize he is not on the level of Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning.

[You mad bro]

He has a great arm and obv can play away but does his team have enough to hang e new england

Brady is a fckn freak it feels like he can with people in wheel chairs on his offense

[PhillyFlyers]

Winning playoff games doesn't make the dude elite. Watch some of the throws he makes, and you will realize he is not on the level of Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning.

Then what does?

[PhillyFlyers]

He has a great arm and obv can play away but does his team have enough to hang e new england

Brady is a fckn freak it feels like he can with people in wheel chairs on his offense

Brady is a freak but Brady has lost 2 Super Bowls.

They can be beat.

[You mad bro]

Then what does?

People only care about rings now a days .. Not saying u do tto but every time someone compares a player its mostly including the fact of championship rings

[tto827]

Then what does?

His passing ability. His ability to make certain throws. Mark Sanchez will surpass him if he gets to start in NY for a few more years, is he elite?

[PhillyFlyers]

His passing ability. His ability to make certain throws. Mark Sanchez will surpass him if he gets to start in NY for a few more years, is he elite?

So you put passing ability over winning?

[You mad bro]

Brady is a freak but Brady has lost 2 Super Bowls.

They can be beat.

Cant expect the guy to win every year ... Plus the giants pass rush was insane that year and Brady never even sees that once a year

But anythin can happen look at last week for example

[PhillyFlyers]

People only care about rings now a days .. Not saying u do tto but every time someone compares a player its mostly including the fact of championship rings

Exactly. Give me a winner every time.

[PhillyFlyers]

Cant expect the guy to win every year ... Plus the giants pass rush was insane that year and Brady never even sees that once a year

But anythin can happen look at last week for example

I think the whole country would go into shock if Baltimore pulled out another road playoff win this week in New England.

[tto827]

People only care about rings now a days .. Not saying u do tto but every time someone compares a player its mostly including the fact of championship rings

Which I think is moronic. Is Trent Dilfer as good as Peyton Manning, are they even comparable, no obviously. Just cause someone was stuck running into the 90's Bulls every year so they couldn't win a championship doesn't mean they weren't good.

[tto827]

So you put passing ability over winning?

When I am judging QB's yes. I would say Tim Tebow is probably the 10th-15th QB I would choose for my team, right around where Flacco is probably right now, would I ever call Tebow elite as a QB, fukk no.

We are grading QB's here, not teams.

[You mad bro]

Which I think is moronic. Is Trent Dilfer as good as Peyton Manning, are they even comparable, no obviously. Just cause someone was stuck running into the 90's Bulls every year so they couldn't win a championship doesn't mean they weren't good.

I know man im a cowboy fan so i hear it from giant fans all the time .. Lol but if u look at it most "fans" always discuss rings .. Do i think montana was the greatest qb ever? No i don't but that doesnt take away the fact of him being great .. His rings only add on to a legacy

[PhillyFlyers]

When I am judging QB's yes. I would say Tim Tebow is probably the 10th-15th QB I would choose for my team, right around where Flacco is probably right now, would I ever call Tebow elite as a QB, fukk no.

We are grading QB's here, not teams.

That's just nuts. Comparing Tebow to Flacco?

Not even close. And some of the greatest QBs that ever lived were considered great passers or have great passing ability.

Terry Bradshaw comes to mind. Give me a guy who can go out and win me 4 Super Bowls over Dan Marino any day.

[You mad bro]

That's just nuts. Comparing Tebow to Flacco?

Not even close. And some of the greatest QBs that ever lived were considered great passers or have great passing ability.

Terry Bradshaw comes to mind. Give me a guy who can go out and win me 4 Super Bowls over Dan Marino any day.

Whoaa relax there buddy .. Marino had no team what so ever lol .. U put marino with montanas team or bradshaws who knoww the numbers he would have put up

[PhillyFlyers]

Whoaa relax there buddy .. Marino had no team what so ever lol .. U put marino with montanas team or bradshaws who knoww the numbers he would have put up

I don't think Marino can make excuses. He stood behind what many consider the greatest center ever, in Dwight Stephenson. He had the greatest 1-2 receiver combination of his era in Clayton and Duper.

His defenses weren't the greatest but they weren't the worst either.

[k13]

Add another road loss for Flacco this Sunday.

[You mad bro]

I don't think Marino can make excuses. He stood behind what many consider the greatest center ever, in Dwight Stephenson. He had the greatest 1-2 receiver combination of his era in Clayton and Duper.

His defenses weren't the greatest but they weren't the worst either.

His line outside of his center wasnt that great ... Had no run game .. And his defense was shakey .. Hard to win in those days without a halfway decent defense ..

Now in this time era u need to score 105883 points its a joke

[PhillyFlyers]

His line outside of his center wasnt that great ... Had no run game .. And his defense was shakey .. Hard to win in those days without a halfway decent defense ..

Now in this time era u need to score 105883 points its a joke

It's funny how football has changed so much since those days.

I think that's why you have to give Brady and New England so much credit. They play in an era where defenses are so complex but yet can get lit for 40 or 50 any at any given time, even the best ones.

They adjusted and have been the best example of winning football in the modern era.

[innovation]

Bill and Brady have not lost a Championship game at home.


Yet.

[PhillyFlyers]

Bill and Brady have not lost a Championship game at home.


Yet.

"To beat me, you gone have to kill me."--Ray Lewis

[You mad bro]

It's funny how football has changed so much since those days.

I think that's why you have to give Brady and New England so much credit. They play in an era where defenses are so complex but yet can get lit for 40 or 50 any at any given time, even the best ones.

They adjusted and have been the best example of winning football in the modern era.

Yah man footballs becoming a joke now lol

[PhillyFlyers]

Add another road loss for Flacco this Sunday.

Let me guess. You're a Pats fan? lol

[stefan084]

when flacco launched the ball into double coverage on the last drive and the d-backs fell down the result was a touchdown-so this equals a great throw because of the result?

[k13]

Let me guess. You're a Pats fan? lol

I hate pats.
Shows how sharp you are.

Pats win.

[PhillyFlyers]

when flacco launched the ball into double coverage on the last drive and the d-backs fell down the result was a touchdown-so this equals a great throw because of the result?

I said it was gutsy and it was.

The famous SBR illiteracy bug strikes again.

[d2bets]

5 is the record? Wow. Had no idea. Surprising. Doesn't make him a great QB though. QB is just one part of a team. Bad team can have a better QB than a good team.

[slacker00]

If you want more meaningless stats, Brady has 11 playoff home wins, 17 playoff wins overall. Brady>>>>Flacco.

[PhillyFlyers]

5 is the record? Wow. Had no idea. Surprising. Doesn't make him a great QB though. QB is just one part of a team. Bad team can have a better QB than a good team.

Yeah he's got the record. Shows how hard it is to win on the road. He's moving into elite territory if he's not already there. He has started 91 consecutive games. Peyton Manning is the only other QB to start every game in his first 5 seasons. Flacco also has the best streak in NFL history in regards to interceptions having only thrown only 10-12 in each of his first 5 seasons.

Flacco is elite. Face reality.

[PhillyFlyers]

I hate pats.
Shows how sharp you are.

Pats win.

Shows how sharp I am? Like I'm supposed to know who you're a fan of?

[slacker00]

Flacco has also LOST 4 playoff road games. He's one game above .500.

[PhillyFlyers]

Flacco has also LOST 4 playoff road games. He's one game above .500.

You're just being a homer now.

Guy's been in the league for 5 seasons and has played in 3 Conference Championship games.

The guy's elite.