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    matt711
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    Was that really a touchdown by sandiego?

    Unbbbeeelievable,,,,.................... ....................

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    it can come out because he caught it before the end zone

    wow for denver backers at - 7.5 and laughing when people buy a point

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    I wasn't sure why why Solomon Wilcotts was so confident. Looked to me like he had his feet down and broke the plane.

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    Yeah, TT is right. At first I thought it wasn't but since he caught it before the end zone, by rule it can move once he crosses the goal line. If he had caught it in the end zone and went to the ground and it moved, then no TD.

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    No it wasn't

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    that's a gambling related call ...NO QUESTION !!!!

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    He had control, knee down with ball over the goal line. Then he went to ground with ball. Touchdown good.

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    Damn i guess im biased because i had denver and under......shit happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireMaker View Post
    No it wasn't
    uh yes it was. the play was equivalent to a runner having possession of the ball before crossing the goal line, then crossing the goal line with the ball still with possession, and then a defender or the ground causing the ball to come out.

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    Knew some sh1t like this was going to happen. That hook was the dagger, and great setup by the books.

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    it was, he broke the plane and the ground cant produce a fumble

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireMaker View Post
    that's a gambling related call ...NO QUESTION !!!!
    I do not believe that. Didnt seem that they were hoping San Diego would cover when they called that holding call on first down.. could have easily looked the other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    He had control, knee down with ball over the goal line. Then he went to ground with ball. Touchdown good.
    This is correct. It was a football move anyone who doesn't see that needs to open there eyes

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    Dang .5

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    2 feet down, in control, THEN broke the plane as well as knee going down with ball over the line.

    Announcer was thinking in terms of a ball caught in the end zone.

    Good Call.

    But.... I had +7 1/2.

    Good wins, bad beats, it's all in a days work.

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    Wilcots doesn't know the rules, just like 90 percent of the announcers in the NFL.

    Notice after, he's explaining the ruling after the ref just said the same thing, basically ignoring the fact he was 100 percent wrong. Does he admit it? Of course not. Just ignore it and hope nobody noticed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    I wasn't sure why why Solomon Wilcotts was so confident. Looked to me like he had his feet down and broke the plane.

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    It was close that's why it took so long to review. For some odd reason I was thinking incomplete.

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    Touchdown all the way and had no action on the game

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    Just so I understand correctly to the people saying it was a TD, there is a rule that separates catching the ball and falling to the ground out of bounds and not maintaining control and catching the ball outside the endzone and falling to the ground while not maintaining control?

    I've seen players catch the ball in the endzone, fall down after both feet touch the ground, the ball moves (is not controlled) and this is not a touchdown.

    Where in the rulebook does it state that if you catch the ball and have control as the ball enters the endzone and then lose control it is still a TD?

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    That bad call costed me 1500.00 USD

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    Just so I understand correctly to the people saying it was a TD, there is a rule that separates catching the ball and falling to the ground out of bounds and not maintaining control and catching the ball outside the endzone and falling to the ground while not maintaining control?

    I've seen players catch the ball in the endzone, fall down after both feet touch the ground, the ball moves (is not controlled) and this is not a touchdown.

    Where in the rulebook does it state that if you catch the ball and have control as the ball enters the endzone and then lose control it is still a TD?
    when you have possession of the ball before going into the endzone, the moment the ball crosses the goal line, the play is over. it does not matter what happens to the ball after the ball has crossed the goal line. simple as that.

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    The books probably broke even with that call. With the Public losing on Denver, but the Public hit the over with that TD though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFoNick View Post
    That bad call costed me 1500.00 USD
    The proper call was made. Remember That's why they call it gambling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    The books probably broke even with that call. With the Public losing on Denver, but the Public hit the over with that TD though.
    I doubt it, majority of Denver bets were in teasers. Teasers all cashed either way u teased that game, up or down, over or under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post
    when you have possession of the ball before going into the endzone, the moment the ball crosses the goal line, the play is over. it does not matter what happens to the ball after the ball has crossed the goal line. simple as that.
    But did he have possession of the ball? If there was no goal line involved, the play would be ruled as incomplete pass, not fumble, because he didn't have the control of ball through out. Just like what makes Hel wondering, I think the NFL rules make TD more easier to achieve than completed pass if a receiver is near goal line, and that would suggest the rules are not really well designed.
    Last edited by wrongturn; 11-19-12 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoFoNick View Post
    That bad call costed me 1500.00 USD
    quit gambling

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    It was a td and saved my a$$ with +7.5!

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    People saying it wasn't a TD must have had money on the game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
    But did he have possession of the ball? If there was no goal line involved, the play would be ruled as incomplete pass, not fumble, because he didn't have the control of ball through out. Just like what makes Hel wondering, I think the NFL rules make TD more easier to achieve than completed pass if a receiver is near goal line, and that would suggest the rules are not really well designed.
    I like the NFL rules on everything except pass interference. Don't like the one foot down college crap.

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    cash +8

    didn't watch the game

    I will say yes it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    I like the NFL rules on everything except pass interference. Don't like the one foot down college crap.
    Yeah, that makes a catch much more easier in college, but that also makes college games more exciting because of more chance of dramatic comebacks in last minutes. I like college OT rules better though, not tie game crap.

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