i can only go by what i know guy. since i have been here...99% of the posters that talk about big numbers and being up huge with their 1st post on the 1st day of being a member are either ghosts or liars. maybe youre the 1%, but if i were affiliated with a book for 10 years and had 50k with them, the last thing i would do is ask a bunch of strangers how to get it. id be on the phone with customer service for 10 hours if need be to make sure that money is secure and to tell them to get the ball rolling with payments.