[milwaukee mike]

they can be WAY off
for example before last night

14 Oregon A = 85.50 3 0 56.30( 150) 0 0 | 0 0 | 84.19 16 | 85.55 14
15 Arizona A = 85.49 3 0 67.15( 65) 1 0 | 1 0 | 85.56 11 | 85.27 17

when they're not "connected" yet, some of these numbers are completely useless. it would've told you the oregon line was way off but in the wrong direction

[Chimneyfish]

I'm not sure why Sagarin had Oregon ranked so much lower than most of the other ratings. After only beating Fresno State by 20 at home his ratings dropped the Ducks by 10 spots or so. Most of the other computers seemed to keep them closer to the #6 spot going into the Arizona matchup.