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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post

    Probably so.

    I was reading an article about the Parx horse racing track, with all the legalized slot machines etc that bring in tons of money for the track and race purses. It made me think that legalized gambling could pay for all taxes. Maybe not all, but a big chunk of it.
    Gambling tax revenue adds up to almost 10% of all state govt income in Australia.

    My state is way ahead of that mark, collecting about 2 billion in tax and almost 15% of all state income. (about 7 million residents)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Gambling tax revenue adds up to almost 10% of all state govt income in Australia.

    My state is way ahead of that mark, collecting about 2 billion in tax and almost 15% of all state income. (about 7 million residents)
    That's tax revenue. I was thinking of it as going straight into the tax treasure chest. From your figures it looks as if gamblers could pay for a country's entire tax bill. Imagine a presidential candidate who could offer 'no tax' and legal gambling with one easy stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    That's tax revenue. I was thinking of it as going straight into the tax treasure chest. From your figures it looks as if gamblers could pay for a country's entire tax bill. Imagine a presidential candidate who could offer 'no tax' and legal gambling with one easy stroke.
    too many religious nutjobs would call this man a fool. when you think about how easy it would be to logically make money for the country and say, provide real services like healthcare in such a way that you're not getting your income taxed to shit, then realize how effing retarded everyone in america is, it just pisses you off. well, it does me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post

    That's tax revenue. I was thinking of it as going straight into the tax treasure chest. From your figures it looks as if gamblers could pay for a country's entire tax bill. Imagine a presidential candidate who could offer 'no tax' and legal gambling with one easy stroke.
    Those figures are so high as so many Aussies gamble though. I've heard more than 80% of every man, woman and child in the country places at least 1 bet per year.

    One big advantage legal gambling offers is state legislation enforcing the bookies/exchanges to pay a % of turnover to the controlling body of whatever local sports they are offering odds on.

    Well it's a big advantage in a small population sports obsessed country like this at least. Betfair has bought grandstands and paid for purses to support hundreds of small race tracks as one example. (well not directly, but they are forced to absolutely POUR cash into the racing industry here)

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    I wish we had sports betting online and real Sportsbooks all legal......Would make most of my bets online and would get money instantly with no ridiculous fees wondering if I will ever get paid......Would get to play at Pinny

    Also, fun as hell to make bets live at Sportsbooks, Get hammered there with friends and watch games on the big screens.......Then collect your cash and immediately head to the strip club with the cash you just won


    Vote Libertarian you fukks!!

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    I live offshore and there's casinos all around me. I STILL bet online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Why are there bookie joints all over Britain but not here????????

    I can not figure that out
    Because were not a socialist nation like Europe. You can always move there Brock. Far left libtards everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    Because were not a socialist nation like Europe. You can always move there Brock. Far left libtards everywhere.
    Whats wrong with taking good parts and ideas of other countries......Our goal should be to be as good as possible, we should always be looking to improve ourselves as a nation

    Having freedom to gamble your money as you please is not a "far left libtard" idea either.......It should be a republican-ish idea in theory, if they truly cared about having government staying out of personal lives......But we all know that really isn't true

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    Only horses are legal everywhere and not sports wagering except Nevada. Yes it would be nice if Vegas had online books, but will never happen and were lucky to have offshore for now. Life goes on without gambling online. Shit a get a rush at the dog park wager a $5 Starbucks card on whose dog is faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Whats wrong with taking good parts and ideas of other countries......Our goal should be to be as good as possible, we should always be looking to improve ourselves as a nation

    Having freedom to gamble your money as you please is not a "far left libtard" idea either.......It should be a republican-ish idea in theory, if they truly cared about having government staying out of personal lives......But we all know that really isn't true
    Absolutely as long as winning are taxed over a certain amount and free payouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    Only horses are legal everywhere and not sports wagering except Nevada. Yes it would be nice if Vegas had online books, but will never happen and were lucky to have offshore for now. Life goes on without gambling online. Shit a get a rush at the dog park wager a $5 Starbucks card on whose dog is faster.
    Why is it wrong to bitch about this and ask why can't our country end the madness when it comes to sports betting?? Why should we just sit here and take the bullshit?

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    Yea i just get too fired up about the Lib ideology...nothing personal.

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    It's unreal! Here in Washington State it's a class 3 felony if caught gambling online. The same as child porn! That is fuking sad and also coning from a Lib governor. Can't open an account DSI cause of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    It's unreal! Here in Washington State it's a class 3 felony if caught gambling online. The same as child porn! That is fuking sad and also coning from a Lib governor. Can't open an account DSI cause of that.
    Libs and Repubs both are fukked up when it comes to sports betting laws here in the US

    Too many ignorant people out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Libs and Repubs both are fukked up in general.

    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texhooper View Post
    too many religious nutjobs would call this man a fool. when you think about how easy it would be to logically make money for the country and say, provide real services like healthcare in such a way that you're not getting your income taxed to shit, then realize how effing retarded everyone in america is, it just pisses you off. well, it does me at least.
    The real opponents wouldn't be religious nutjobs, but Vegas. Think Vegas wants people to be able to gamble anywhere they want? They have a lot more money to grease politicians too. US is all about corporate power.

    In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a connection between the ridiculous negative publicity about horse racing in the NY Times earlier this year, and the success tracks are having with slot machines. It's the way for many tracks to survive and flourish, but every track that turns to this strategy takes in money not spend in Vegas.
    Last edited by Dark Horse; 09-14-12 at 02:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    The real opponents wouldn't be religious nutjobs, but Vegas. Think Vegas wants people to be able to gamble anywhere they want? They have a lot more money to grease politicians too. US is all about corporate power.

    In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a connection between the ridiculous negative publicity about horse racing in the NY Times, and the success tracks are having with slot machines.
    Vegas doesnt run our fukkin country.....The higher ups of Vegas might like to think they do but Fukk em.......Greasing politicians?? Makes me sick

    I have Atlantic City an hour away, and I still go to Vegas as much as possible with friends (And no not because of Sportsbooks either).......A few Sportsbooks here and there in other states won't do shit in regards to Vegas profits in the grand scheme of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Vegas doesnt run our fukkin country.....The higher ups of Vegas might like to think they do but Fukk em.......Greasing politicians?? Makes me sick

    I have Atlantic City an hour away, and I still go to Vegas as much as possible with friends (And no not because of Sportsbooks either).......A few Sportsbooks here and there in other states won't do shit in regards to Vegas profits in the grand scheme of things
    Who do you think is behind the internet anti-gambling legislation. Religious people? Think it was their idea to squeeze it in as a flyer in some anti-terrorist bill, and vote after almost every congressman had left for some holiday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post

    Absolutely as long as winning are taxed over a certain amount and free payouts.
    Why do you want winnings taxed at all??

    Other countries tax the businesses and leave the players alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    Who do you think is behind the internet anti-gambling legislation. Religious people? Think it was their idea to squeeze it in as a flyer in some anti-terrorist bill, and vote after almost every congressman had left for some holiday?
    Nope, just some jerkoff politicians that have too much time on their hands and want to show their power......Just like every other moronic laws we have in this country

    Of course, Vegas supports it but they are not powerful enough to dictate to 49 other states

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Why do you want winnings taxed at all??

    Other countries tax the businesses and leave the players alone.


    Imagine they tried to introduce a tax on gambling for punters here? Would be mass riots

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    NJ is only state with miniscule chance and I say 99.2% they do not get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Nope, just some jerkoff politicians that have too much time on their hands and want to show their power......Just like every other moronic laws we have in this country

    Of course, Vegas supports it but they are not powerful enough to dictate to 49 other states

    Really? It doesn't work that way, but it should, so in a way it's good you think so. The reality is that special interests have their hand in everything, and that all but one or two politicians are bought and paid for. Look through the veil of this fake democracy and you'll see corporate fascism long ago reared its ugly head.
    Last edited by Dark Horse; 09-14-12 at 05:25 AM.

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    Agree with that special interest group(s) just need to influence small number of politicians that are in important position, like some kind of committee, to make laws tilt to their favor. That law was a typical example.

    The reason that Americans have been enjoying online gaming for a few years before 2007, is that although politicians don't express pro-gambling views publicly, for obvious reasons, they don't want to discuss laws to ban gambling either. One of main reasons is that they have far more important stuff on the table to fight each other. The sole reason of that law was passed, is just basically a bought senator sneaking it into a port security law that no politician dared to oppose after 9/11. The same reason that it is less important will also prevent it to be reversed or revised. So we will be stuck in this sad situation for quite a while.
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