Have to massage this fukker.Originally Posted by allabout the $$$
Hope you get your $$$.
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08-01-12 08:10 PM #36
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08-01-12 08:12 PM #37
Yeah that's why I'm with 5 dimes never a problem. But like playing with a local cause I don't have to postup and play off credit obviously. Originally Posted by brendon
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08-01-12 08:18 PM #38
Treat it like a chick that won't call back. George Costanza freaked out when a girl he was dating turned out to be out of town after he left several angry messages when she wouldn't call back. He and Jerry ended up having to go up to her apartment to steal her answering machine tape. Don't have to break into his house to steal his answering machine tape, just chill for now.
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08-01-12 08:20 PM #39
Going to give it a few days.
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08-01-12 08:50 PM #40
Really hoping you meant to say message. Originally Posted by GUMMO77
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08-01-12 09:08 PM #41
Well I just talked to my Buddy who uses the same guy. He has done this in the past, go Mia for 5 days then text ya and say he was out of town and then meets the following day. But why not atieast respond and say hey I'll get you money this weekend im out of town.
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08-02-12 02:24 AM #42
Ive had this happen several times with various results. It took me a while but i came to these conclusions:
1) If you are up, be prepared to lose that money. It sucks, but consider it an investment ie u paid this bum to get lost. He will never bother you again for he will know he always owes you. Any physical action or harassment on your behalf towards him will NOT be worth it. You dont want to do anything stupid that can jeopardize your health, freedom, or people you love. Chances are bookies do have some unsavory characters for situations when some clients dont pay their debts.
2) Give him time. Maybe he got hit and is working shit out himself. You do have an ace in the hole, you have your friend that uses him too, so you have a source of inside information and can keep tabs on him. Dont EVER let your bookie know you guys know each other (if he doesnt already know). IE if your buddy collects or paid, dont go with him. The bookie will not carry that much cheese to pay you off right there, and then he will cut off your buddy to and then u both are ******.
3) Collect information. If you can collect the info from his cell, and maybe his address, cool. But just keep it in your pocket. If u ambush him, he will feel threatened and u never know what a cornered animal will do.
Football season is around the corner and that's the most profitable time for bookies. Knowing how people think, chances are he will think you will go cold and give it back to him. (just like losing betters think they can chase and get it back). So be PATIENT. He will come back to you...
I know its hard, really ******* hard when u are owed money...but take a breather and wait...even a week. If you have a relationship with this bookie...dont burn it....least not yet.
My story:
I had a bookie that was like clock work. Every Sunday if i owed, i would pay. If I was up, I had a cashiers check in the mail on wed. One time i killed and had a sick week...and sure enough a PHAT check in the mail wed. One week it wasnt there...and turns out he was out of town and didnt tell me. He apologized, and had it sent overnight the next week. Like i said, once trust and reputation is established, its worth preserving until its been burned.
This other guy i made bets with time to time. Small stuff, bc i didnt trust him yet. Lost a few bucks here and there, won a few. Then hit a 3 and 4 team football parlay. I was stoked. sick ass pay out off a minimal investment. This was also a time when i needed the money. I couldnt get a hold of him for a few weeks. Then he called me asking if i wanted action and he will get me my money. He jerked me around for a month, this excuse, that excuse. I ended up losing a few bets and just stopped. I was still up a lot, but never heard from the **** again. Still havent. I was seriously pissed...but like anything, time heals.
When it comes down to it, outside vegas, its an illegal endevour. buyer beware, no honor amoungst thieves, etc etc.
i hope this helps, I can tell you more stories...in the end, shit happens.
Seriously, i know it sucks, REALLY sucks. But better than being in the hole with no light in sight and him calling you.
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08-02-12 02:59 AM #43If hustlin' is a must; be Sosa, not Tony
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What state are you in? Originally Posted by sportsguy04
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08-02-12 03:05 AM #44
Ha, no, I meant massage in the sense that he needs to be delicate. If he keeps calling he's only going to piss the local off. Originally Posted by HedgeHog
I don't mean a physical massage, but if that's going to get SportsGuy his money back sooner ......
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08-02-12 03:10 AM #45
nothing to worry bout the guy is just going to scam you is all...
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08-02-12 03:49 AM #46
Stick with 5Dimes.
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08-02-12 08:28 AM #47
Ohio why? Originally Posted by SlickRick1382
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08-02-12 04:40 PM #48
text him and tell him ,dont make me set the dogs loose,works somtimes .
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08-02-12 05:04 PM #49
Dont do this. There is little upside. If he calls your bluff, you are essentially done. Wont get money and he wont respect you. Not worth doing something that has such a quick end game. Originally Posted by poker6469
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08-02-12 08:26 PM #50
Waiting till next Tuesday (payday) which will be a week of him not answering my text or call. Apparently he has done this before? Gone out town then comes back the next week and pays and apologizes. But that was a smalle amount from my buddy. We shall see. Sent him a message saying "hope everything is ok buddy, haven't heard from ya in a few days, was just checking in an seeing if you got my bets from last noght"
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08-02-12 09:34 PM #51
don't place another wager with him until you get paid.
then once you get paid, don't place another wager with him.
cliff notes: don't ever place another wager with him and hope you get paid. gl
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08-02-12 11:47 PM #52
one of my locals that i've been using for 5+ years owes me $2,500 for over four weeks now. I'm patiently waiting and hoping he pays up.
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08-03-12 12:54 PM #53
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08-03-12 12:55 PM #54
Not yet. Originally Posted by Sledge187
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08-03-12 05:57 PM #55
Good plan and diplomatic message. Just the worst part, the waiting game. But place no more bets. set up 5Dimes and get back to work! GL
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08-06-12 08:44 PM #56
6 days in and he is still ignoring my texts and calls. Tuesday is settle day so let's see if he contacts me.
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08-06-12 08:58 PM #57
are you supposed to meet on tuesdays at a specific place to square up, or is he supposed to call and set something up? Originally Posted by sportsguy04
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08-07-12 06:14 AM #58
Every Tuesday morning he calls with the amount were at then ask when we can meet then settle on a place. Originally Posted by mynameismud
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08-07-12 06:15 AM #59
Guy keeps it up I'll have to visit his work and pay him a visit.
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08-07-12 06:26 AM #60
Still didnt get paid?
Wow
Forgot about this thread
Bad news
You are being fukkin stiffed would be my guess if he is still ducking u
Do what you gotta do
Sounds to me like its physical violence time
How much does he owe you again?Last edited by Br0nxer; 08-07-12 at 06:33 AM.
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08-07-12 06:36 AM #61
have your friend call him and plan to meet up @ a bar. then you will be there. wont look like your friend did anything wrong
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08-07-12 08:48 AM #62
Next time I read about the evils, perils and pitfalls of gambling on-line and off-shore, I'll make sure to link this thread.
I know more guys who have been stiffed altogether through locals that would love to deal with an occasional slow play from a book. It's a shady business and a true gamble no matter what avenue you take, boys.
Sorry to hear about this sg04. You wouldn't be the first. Hope you get your scratch in the end, somehow.
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08-07-12 08:58 AM #63
Only 2 grand. Originally Posted by Br0nxer
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08-07-12 08:59 AM #64
I'll just ask him if it's worth losing his BMW, house, job and everything over 2 thousand dollars or if he rather spend some prison time.
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08-07-12 09:25 AM #65
threats like that usually aren't a good idea Originally Posted by sportsguy04
scumbags are scumbags and usually empty threats result in threats right back at you
either you're willing to set his shit on fire or you're not, once it's 95% apparent he's stiffing you either do something drastic or chalk it up as a loss
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08-07-12 09:27 AM #66
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08-07-12 09:32 AM #67
I would rather a stiff feared me than respected me Originally Posted by shooms79
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08-07-12 09:39 AM #68
I'm not going to threaten him to nice and not a violent or conflict person. But I will bother the shit out of him if need be. I'll call him every day for a year if need be.
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08-07-12 09:56 AM #69
I agree with everyone else here though -- be careful. I don't know who you're dealing with, but shady is shady. If you feel like it's worth it to harass him and get the 2 grand, go for it. But if this guy's connected to shit you don't want to come back and haunt you, you might have to just let it go. Originally Posted by sportsguy04
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08-07-12 10:06 AM #70
Highly doubt the guy is connected
If he was, sportsguy would be getting paid
Maybe delayed but the guy wouldnt be ducking him
When the connected operations stiff they usually use the wire room being raided as the excuse.
If you feel the 2 dimes is worth it then do what you gotta do
Good luck
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