[jjgold]

Lines
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[mysterio619]

Fukk off

[ApricotSinner32]

Lines
Deposits
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$50 to take a payout = bubblegum operation.

[acl123]

-110 lines
Free cc deposites
withdraw options are horrific.
Never had a withdraw problem though.
Bonus program a plus.

[wrongturn]

not a fan of its software

[BIGDAY]

[acl123]

Big day that is not nice.

[Smoke]

Big day that is not nice

[SlickFazzer]

Be nice Big Day.

[BIGDAY]

[jjgold]

I guess geared more towards Euro players like most books nowadays

Seems like same software from 10 years ago

[Smoke]

Not funny big day

[acl123]

Your being mean Bigday.

[Smoke]

Big day you are being obtuse

[LordVodka]

Hard site to navigate. They need to improve this.

[jjgold]

I think they have a pretty big customer base

Add campaigns always been good

[prop]

Owner is a German moved to UK in 1983 to start the company, targeting Germany originally so been around forever. Claims to have been online since January 17, 1996 making them the oldest. In 2000 developed first ever mobile betting site. Once really advanced, not too much has changed since. It's really slow software. They did add primitive live betting features not too long ago.

I suspect this isn't the worse third out for baseball for a small bettor. Can find some value there on occasion on low spreads. Rare times will match Pinnacle (and again rare) while also having a rewards program. This rewards program pays pure cash when certain milestones are reached. I forget the specifics but believe it slightly better than BetPoints at CRIS (again, don't quote me on that).

For NFL nothing special. 2-team 6-point teasers -110, 3-teamers -170 which isn't favorable (years ago they had 1 team teasers at -250 but those are gone). They do have some unique props with high juice, but can pull some value there on occasion. Last season I found a 14.3% arb (small limit) on division winner due to them have an off market price, sportsbook having the same on the two with a chance, and TheGreek combing the other two teams as a single field bet.

Btw. I'm not sure their limits for futures but they appear large. I had made a few for low four figures in the past, then I'm not sure it's a mistake but I'm limited on most all markets. $300 on some big ones, $100 and $50 on small stuff. wasn't able to place a bet over $200 on anything at the moment trying everywhere because had new promo coming and tons of rollover. With 4 left in Euro 2012 got down $6K on Italy and they were best on the board period at the time. LOL was sweating if it won if I'd get paid or quoted some limit glitch (had sold it off elsewhere) because a huge bet for their site.

All this stuff is rare. I don't know if they ban seem fine taking my bets at $300 forever on like NFL and overnights are like $100. The only reason I bother is they have good promos that make it worth the time. For example: Last year for NFL they had a promo of either bet $100 every week of the season (so could of done it for $1700) or bet $5,000 total, and get $500 free at end of season. For Euro 2012 they bet $1,000 cumulative on Euro and get $200 free. Although funny they word it as free bet these are cash bonuses that don't require deposit - have 16X rollover and a max cash out of 10x the free bonus amount. When bust rollover resets. Of course will be quickly not be eligible, but at the start if you can bust a few times might also get reloads on top (running both simultaneous). So annoying I get those emails offering them, chat tells me available, then when claim oh sorry not eligible. I don't bother to ask anymore because went through that several times. The season long promos I've still claimed with no problem.

The betting $5,000 to get $500 free for NFL was great can find best price enough time at $300 max (though took a lot of looking and still have pad). The bet $1,000 to get $200 free on Euro was freaking brutal. Their football (soccer) odds suck! They're horrible.

I see lots of methods listed for US but don't know have tried. For me Neteller cashouts come reasonable. I never bother to check until end of the week, and there's no email from Neteller when someone send you payment - but all payment I requested from them, are there when I do happen to audit. (not sure how long but most likely under 2 days, might even be faster).

Support is okay and competent, including email and live chat. This is something becoming rare these days. Anyways have used them at least 14 years maybe 15. What else you wanna know? Email market is most often LOL (similar to 5Dimes) is like why the freak did you email me this. It's 500 words stretched out say: It's the all-star break - oh when you get a chance come bet with us again. Blah.

They used to have a great marketing team. LOL had moolette Simon Noble was touting back in 2001. Was cows roaming around a field with a roulette wheel on it and could bet where the next cow plop would land (no joke this was their live dealer casino game in 2001). Now they just have a lame twitter bot and emails that say nothing.

[prop]

I think they have a pretty big customer base

Add campaigns always been good

Posted before reading this. Would agree "used to be" good. In recent times pathetic. I think now a days they are just working to maintain - which is fine many books do the same.

[BuddyBear]

Decent book with vanilla lines. Like Prop said, not a bad book to have as a third or fourth main option.

It's a safe operation, but when I asked them where they were located they told me they could not share that information with me. Weird.

[Brock Landers]

Played there back in 2000, LOW fukkin limits. A shit book more or less

[ProfitBettingSov]

Low limits but a decent soccer out.

[inter1097]

Their competition on intertops.net has kept me freerolling them for quite a while. can't beat it if you're a low limit player.

[prop]

Low limits but a decent soccer out.

How?? Where?? This is one area their lines are so horrible. 92% payback on 1x2 and don't see value anywhere else.

[ProfitBettingSov]

I played with them 2 years ago so it might have changed recently. But they had some good lines, especially for major leagues. They also had options for some lesser known leagues. Also had more live betting options than say, 5Dimes and other books.

[married2themoney]

Poker is solid book not so much!

[ProfitBettingSov]

Decent book with vanilla lines. Like Prop said, not a bad book to have as a third or fourth main option.

It's a safe operation, but when I asked them where they were located they told me they could not share that information with me. Weird.

Think they have an Antiguan gaming license, so if they ever fold, you would still be paid out.

[prop]

I played with them 2 years ago so it might have changed recently. But they had some good lines, especially for major leagues. They also had options for some lesser known leagues. Also had more live betting options than say, 5Dimes and other books.

For sure changed, they have the highest juice period, like it's insanely high.

Think they have an Antiguan gaming license, so if they ever fold, you would still be paid out.

this is not how it works, that license mean nothing at all for players. It allows them to market in the UK and gives them legal cover some other places. It's for their own benefit, does nothing for us.

[Cuse4tw]

Funded there mainly for poker....took a week to get a p2p payout which is just stupid honestly. Gl elsewhere if possible...but I enjoy playing cards there

[ProfitBettingSov]

For sure changed, they have the highest juice period, like it's insanely high.



this is not how it works, that license mean nothing at all for players. It allows them to market in the UK and gives them legal cover some other places. It's for their own benefit, does nothing for us.

Sorry, I was a bit quick to jump the gun there.

Not if they ever fold, but them having a license makes them more marketable, like you said. And it's not a cheap license to obtain, so I would assume they have a decent/solid backing.

[dark star]

Terrible software,terrible lines....apparently they will pay you-if you can actually find lines to bet into.You might need to get your head examined to deposit here

[InTheDrink]

if it's not the worst web site in the biz then id hate to see the one thats worse

[wrongturn]

Their prop section is a mess. Sometimes they put the Under on top of the Over. . It got me once.

[jjgold]

OK men

seems like garbage

[prop]

Their prop section is a mess. Sometimes they put the Under on top of the Over. . It got me once.

A lot of sites do this. Betfair, Stan James (BlueSq? - I forget but for sure is many others)

[jjgold]

Intertops needs a huge overhaul according to this thread