[probettor1]

It was either the mob or the promoters.
If it was the mob it could be easy to track, millions were place in the last hours in the fight. Who are those runners working for? The casinos could open an investigation.

Rapper 50 Cent said what many people were thinking: "Man boxing is a mess right now [whatever you do] do not watch the rematch its fixed. both fighters are with the same promoters [they're] just trying to get paid twice."
Canadian poker player and sports analyst Haralabos Voulgaris noted that there was a late surge of bets on Bradley. "Late money on this boxing match, Pac was -432 at 2pm it closed -397 at pinny. Lots of late money on Bradley."

[Dank_Fire]

Bob Arum

[probettor1]

Bob Arum

Arum was in a precarious position to begin with, as he is the promoter for both fighters. A fact he wasn't exactly hiding from. ESPN also offered up this post-fight Arum quote:

I'll make a lot of money off the rematch, but this was outrageous.

Thanks for pointing out why you are the first person people will look to when they try figure out who would have and could have put the fix in for this fight.
This is not new ground for Arum. His Top Rank promotion company was the target of an FBI probe in 2004 over the possibility that the Oscar De La Hoya and (Sugar) Shane Mosley bout was fixed.
That certainly is not the only time Arum has courted controversy.
He was hit with a $125,000 fine by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in 1995 due to the allegation he put in a bribe in order to get a fight sanctioned.
He has also testified that he has bribed the International Boxing Federation to boost one of his fighter's marketability.

[probettor1]

Dana White might be celebrating today. After what happened in the mayweather vs ortiz fight, and now this, boxing days as a top sport might be getting to an end as the UFC get the lead.

[Sport_Fish]

The main question is...is this shit even going to be investigated? And the fktards behind this, will they ever get caught?

I don't know how something like this would go unnoticed by authorities and without an investigation, but I get the feeling that's exactly whats going to happen.

I seriously don't think it should be THIS DAMN easy to fix matches and get away with it, with nothing at all being done about it.

[Sam Odom]

Who rigged the fight?

[Mikail]

The main question is...is this shit even going to be investigated? And the fktards behind this, will they ever get caught?

I don't know how something like this would go unnoticed by authorities and without an investigation, but I get the feeling that's exactly whats going to happen.
I seriously don't think it should be THIS DAMN easy to fix matches and get away with it, with nothing at all being done about it.

and until something is done about these criminal acts they will continue. Problem is that those responsible are "powerful" individuals. Meaning they have a lot of money. When you have a lot of money you can make problems like a possible investigation just disappear.

[SlickFazzer]

The fight was not rigged...the judging was.

[DeFactoCrippler]

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[probettor1]

The final part was funny

[DeFactoCrippler]

The final part was funny

lol

[PaperTrail07]

Personally, I am 100% done watching, betting or promoting boxing in general......Im very shocked people still follow it as much as they do....I mean shit in the 90's i was a kid with a bet on Golada VS riddick Bowe and I remember that shit being rigged lol.....nothing has changed ...still a joke

[antifoil]

it was lebron. everyone knows it was lebron.

lebron is such a talent, he rigged the judges putting pressure on them while playing a game 7.

[PaperTrail07]

and I agree....the fight was not rigged....the judging was LOL....what a joke....people need to stop giving them their HARD EARNED $$....cut the $$$$ --cut the Problem

[PaperTrail07]

anti LOLOL blame it on LEBRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...love IT!!

[jjgold]

I saw Mayweather had something to do with it

He is very quiet

[bobby heenan]

arum was in front of cameras
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"im not even gonna bother to protest this....the nevada commision...they are honest....but honesty doesnt mean they are competent"......

lolol....if this had happened against ricky hatton, who was was fighting with golden boy, hed be outraged and going beserk....but now hes gonna sit back and be calm about it...lol

this is the perfect setup for him so he doesnt have to fight floyd or even mention fighting floyd in novemeber....the guy has been avoiding the fight for 3 years now

arum would not let his cash cows lose any fight that was even remotely close

look at richard abril/brandon rios....that fight was lopsided....for abril....and rios is arums little up and coming pet....same with the salido/lopez rematch...which lopez was winning till get knocked out again.....arum wont let his little cash cows lose close fights

so either manny was robbed by incompetent judging....or this was a setup to avoid floyd...because there arent many more opponents out there for manny....and if you look at arums history(recent history with rios and lopez) it eliminates the first choice

[pimike]

The final part was funny

LMFAO

Yes it was. LOL

[bobby heenan]

operation "keep manny away from floyd" has been going on for like 3 years...just another phase in the plan.....nothing to see here

[DeFactoCrippler]

Personally, I am 100% done watching, betting or promoting boxing in general......Im very shocked people still follow it as much as they do....I mean shit in the 90's i was a kid with a bet on Golada VS riddick Bowe and I remember that shit being rigged lol.....nothing has changed ...still a joke

The corruption used to be predictable atleast but this one kinda come out of left field. It was a focking job for sure but not the worst thing that has gone down. Maybe the most focked thing on a stage this large, but the other month about 1:30 disappeared from the Macarinelli / Mcphilbin fight. That was a rigged fight not just decision with everyone in on it including the ref and the people who operate the bell.

[darko3131]

No doubt Arum. Manny will still make plenty of money but he's at the end of his career. Now Tim can demand a ton per fight and he's got maybe a dozen more in him.

[pepero428]

it was lebron. everyone knows it was lebron.

lebron is such a talent, he rigged the judges putting pressure on them while playing a game 7.

[bobby heenan]

kevin iole from yahoo...hes a pretty decent/fair boxing writer.....he thinks there are positives to this....heres what he said

Controversy sells. The bigger the controversy, the bigger the rematch.
This rematch will be bigger than Saturday's bout by a wide margin. Bradley will become a star; he's already a charismatic guy who performed well when he finally got his chance on the big stage. And Pacquiao's legion of fans will rally to his support, believing he was wronged and demanding justice in a second fight.

alotta birds killed with one stone here.....and he has a perfect reason to avoid even talking about floyd

[mathdotcom]

Dumb poker player

Late money on Bradley...

I imagine the late money is always on underdogs in these fights

[crustyme]

david stern.

that'll teach em to hold a match on the same night as a game 7.

[jazzyj7]

Manny must know arum screwed him, right? Why would manny ever fight another arum promoted fight?

[raydog]

No doubt Arum. Manny will still make plenty of money but he's at the end of his career. Now Tim can demand a ton per fight and he's got maybe a dozen more in him.

lolzz...do you really think a guy, who lost at least 10 rounds and looked like a beaten puppy dog, will be able to name his price...unless he fights floyd or they have a great co main event and great undercards, the ppv #s will be laughable for this kid...the world knows he was picked apart and the judging was rigged...

[GunShard]

Theory:

A fight judge to places a bet on Bradley since he is a major underdog. Since most boxing matches usually ends in a decision, the fight judge rigs the fight by making Bradley win. The fight judge wins money. If the judge bet $250,000, he would have won around $750,000 based of the 3 to 1 odds.

[RunningMan7]

THe judges were definitely paid off. I think all three judges were paid off/threatened to make enough of a show of a split so as not to make it a 100% farce. I dont think the players were paid off.

I normally hate conspiracy theories. In the Olympics, national bias comes in as a possible factor. In pro judging, it's either incompetence or personal bias or corrupt. IN this case , I don't think it is mere incompetence as every single other non official judge of the fight ruled otherwise. There is no evidence of personal bias or Manny's camp would have raised a stink. So it really comes down to flat out corruption.

I was going to go all in for Manny before the game. But I was too busy watching the NBA and NHL games that I hesitated enough not to put a single dollar on the fight. Otherwise I would have been cleaned out of my online account(I dont have a huge one to begin with, so that last statement is not as dramatic as it sounds)>

[bobby heenan]

lolzz...do you really think a guy, who lost at least 10 rounds and looked like a beaten puppy dog, will be able to name his price...unless he fights floyd or they have a great co main event and great undercards, the ppv #s will be laughable for this kid...the world knows he was picked apart and the judging was rigged...

hell still make a good chunk for the rematch...as the champion...people will still wanna see the rematch regardless of how well he actually fared

GunShard....that would take more than just one judge to make it happen....its definitley not out of the question that they could be in cahoots.....but heres really where it gets easy to do

the judges are assigned by athletic commision.....the promoter doesnt pay them....but the promoters do take care of their lodging and travel...im not totally clear but im sure they can accomodate dining and what not.......so whos to say there isnt a little envelope in the hotel room???

here you have bob arum having both fighters here under contract(pretty common)...so its easy....this is his show...he can create anything he wants......thats what he did.....hes not even outraged....which he should be when his cash cow is robbed....because hell come out of this even better in november....and he doesnt even have to answer the mayweather question.....which is a fight hes been trying to avoid for 3 years now

go check out the richard abril/brandon rios fight.....rios is a young, undefeated, earner for arum...he was beaten pretty good by abril....didnt happen on the cards.........check out the orlando salido/juan ma lopez rematch.....lopez was ahead on the cards until he was knocked out........he was a big hit with the puerto ricans.........arum helps protect his earners.......

theres no reason for pac to be robbed, in a fight that arum controls, unless arum wanted him to be beaten.....especially a fight that was even close

[bobby heenan]

arum is already changing what he said last night

last night he said he wouldnt even bother talking to the nevada commision or filing a protest....he said "the nevada commision....im not even gonna bother....they are honest....but honest doesnt mean competent"...and he was talking rematch

now today hes saying there wont be a rematch unless the nevada attorney general launches an investigation....lolol....what are they going to uncover???

[Thor4140]

The main question is...is this shit even going to be investigated? And the fktards behind this, will they ever get caught?

I don't know how something like this would go unnoticed by authorities and without an investigation, but I get the feeling that's exactly whats going to happen.

I seriously don't think it should be THIS DAMN easy to fix matches and get away with it, with nothing at all being done about it.

The guys who will investigate most likely are on the same team with the crooks. it is like asking the banks to regulate themselves. Impossible because the guys that have the opportunity to regulate the banks are the bankers themselves. They are the guys who sit on the Fed. Only in America.

[CoachJB]

Arum was in a precarious position to begin with, as he is the promoter for both fighters. A fact he wasn't exactly hiding from. ESPN also offered up this post-fight Arum quote:

I'll make a lot of money off the rematch, but this was outrageous.

Thanks for pointing out why you are the first person people will look to when they try figure out who would have and could have put the fix in for this fight.
This is not new ground for Arum. His Top Rank promotion company was the target of an FBI probe in 2004 over the possibility that the Oscar De La Hoya and (Sugar) Shane Mosley bout was fixed.
That certainly is not the only time Arum has courted controversy.
He was hit with a $125,000 fine by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in 1995 due to the allegation he put in a bribe in order to get a fight sanctioned.
He has also testified that he has bribed the International Boxing Federation to boost one of his fighter's marketability.

And yet he is still a licensed promoter... Whatta joke boxing has become

[The Kraken]

Man, if it was Arum, he's the most arrogant son of a bitch around that has zero fear of retribution.

I honestly don't know who has the most to gain, unless two rogue judges got together and decided to either rig the results for personal gain or for mafia demands. I just don't know but it was obvious.

Time to water board those judges and get to the bottom of this.

[probettor1]

kraken is right