1. 02-22-12 02:19 PM #1
    goldendome23
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    KenPom a must for college basketball?

    Just curious on people's opinions on the effectiveness of the site. I know its only 20 dollars not a big deal. Just curious how much people use it or rely on it.
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  2. 02-22-12 02:20 PM #2
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    It's ok for totals.
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  3. 02-22-12 03:22 PM #3
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    Never was big on betting totals in college basketball. Guess could look into it.
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  4. 02-22-12 03:24 PM #4
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    his pace of play ratings are invaluable
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  5. 02-22-12 03:40 PM #5
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    yeah thats what i've heard. I'm just going to buy it and take a look into it
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  6. 02-22-12 03:41 PM #6
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  7. 02-22-12 04:06 PM #7
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    It's worth a lot more.
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  8. 02-22-12 04:24 PM #8
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    its useful in the first couple of months of the season. After that, throw kenpm away because books would have adjusted and soft lines will be gone.
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  9. 02-22-12 04:27 PM #9
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    books use it
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  10. 02-22-12 05:01 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    books use it
    Much harder to beat the bookmaker openers now
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  11. 02-22-12 05:36 PM #11
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    There are no edges

    Sportsbooks have the same data
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  12. 02-22-12 05:41 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    books use it
    Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
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  13. 02-22-12 05:50 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post

    Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
    If that was the case then why when Kenpom first started doing his thing did his stats not reflect the lines(but modeled the real results much better), and then after a couple of seasons all of a sudden the lines started to match Kenpom almost exactly in 95% of cases.

    Did the books just suddenly discover tempo-free statistics a couple years after Kenpom, or did their own statisticians and modelers just start basing their models on the research Kenpom had done.
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  14. 02-22-12 06:04 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Books have their own statisticians and modelers. They don't need below-average kenpom.
    No they don't!

    Most just have monkeys that copy lines
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