[Roxxyfish]

hey guys focus is on Holland this afternoon, i love their 2nd division the"Jupiler League" this is by far the league with the most action and goals, the 3 games i am big on today are:

Cambuur Leuuwarden vs SC Veendam
Apeldoorn vs Doordrecht
FC Emmen vs Fc Zwolle

my bet of the day is SSV Dordrecht away to the bottom club Apeldoorn, Apeldoorn have won only 1 game so far andconsided 48 goals against them,on the other hand Dordrecht have lost onlyfour games and is very solid -138 is the moneyline at william hill,this is the easiest winner today

SSV Dordrecht -138
SSV Dordrecht-1goal +160
SSV Dordrecht-2goals +375
SSV Dordrecht-3goals +900
Cambuur Leeuwarden -200
Cambuur Leuuwarden-1 +160
Cambuur Leuuwarden-2 +300
Cambuur Leuuwarden-3 +700
Cambuur Leuuwarden-4 +1600
FC Zwolle -225
FC Zwolle -1 goal +115
FC Zwolle-2 goals +300
FC Zwolle-3goals +700
FC Zwolle-4goals +1600
SSV Dordrecht total over 4.5 goals +225
SSV Dordrecht total over 5.5 goals +500
Cambuur Leuuwarden over 4.5 goals +225
Cambuur Leeuwarden over 5.5 goals +500
FC Zwolle total over 4.5 goals +333
FC Zwolle total over 5.5 goals +700

good luck all who tail , pound it guys

[ngates815]

3200 on the line.

Must be a professional gambler.

[FourLengthsClear]

3200 on the line.

Must be a professional gambler.

Absolutely, it is well known that William Hill is where the real professionals play.

[Tech N9ne]

Fresh air

[Roxxyfish]

3200 on the line. Must be a professional gambler.

Absolutely, it is well known that William Hill is where the real professionals play.

Fresh air

you guys are too funny really ,now move on go play with the other fat kids

Oh and gator what line is 3200 ??

[EaglesPhan36]

I'm eagerly awaiting four more threads for each pick by itself.

[Roxxyfish]

Absolutely, it is well known that William Hill is where the real professionals play.

Four lenght clear you think you are sharp huh ?? get a life, you are more obsessed with me than daihomo

[Roxxyfish]

stfu buddy, you should learn from the best

I'm eagerly awaiting four more threads for each pick by itself.

[TheAntFather]

GL today Roxxy.

[FourLengthsClear]

you guys are too funny really ,now move on go play with the other fat kids

Oh and gator what line is 3200 ??

It is funny.

Winning bettors do not get to place $500 dollar bets at William Hill or at Bet365 or at SportingBet or at Paddy Power or at Bwin. They have their bet limits cut to pennies/cents within a couple of months at most.

These are recreational books and the do not tolerate people consistently winning money from them.

Ergo you are betting these for much smaller amounts and/or you are losing your shirt.

[FourLengthsClear]

Four lenght clear you think you are sharp huh ?? get a life, you are more obsessed with me than daihomo

Exposing a circus clown (that's you btw) just might stop one or two newbs/fools from tailing on these ridiculous juiced up lines.

[Roxxyfish]

bullshit, yes William Hill cut my limits just this month but they are still worth to play there believe me,and now stop talking bullshit and care about your own business, ny limits are def not cut to cents OH and believe me most people wish they had my soccer skills, how old are you kid ??

It is funny. Winning bettors do not get to place $500 dollar bets at William Hill or at Bet365 or at SportingBet or at Paddy Power or at Bwin. They have their bet limits cut to pennies/cents within a couple of months at most. These are recreational books and the do not tolerate people consistently winning money from them. Ergo you are betting these for much smaller amounts and/or you are losing your shirt.

[noober]

Cambuur Leeuwarden -200
Cambuur Leuuwarden-1 +160

this cannot be true. 1 goal shouln't make such a big difference

[Tech N9ne]

It is funny. Winning bettors do not get to place $500 dollar bets at William Hill or at Bet365 or at SportingBet or at Paddy Power or at Bwin. They have their bet limits cut to pennies/cents within a couple of months at most. These are recreational books and the do not tolerate people consistently winning money from them. Ergo you are betting these for much smaller amounts and/or you are losing your shirt.

[Roxxyfish]

yes buddy go to william hill ,its not asian handicap,no pushes

Cambuur Leeuwarden -200 Cambuur Leuuwarden-1 +160 this cannot be true. 1 goal shouln't make such a big difference

[ngates815]

When you bet the "spread" at 5dimes does it push if it is -1 and the team wins by 1?

[Roxxyfish]

gator you dumbfuuk 5dimes have a ASIAN Handicap, I have a normal handicap thats why the odds are higher, pushes dont count they have to win by 2,

is 5dimes a book that on the spread pushes?

[ngates815]

No need to call me a dumbfukk, I was just asking.

you dumbfukk.

[Roxxyfish]

and i was just kidding pal, why so sensitive ?

No need to call me a dumbfukk, I was just asking. you dumbfukk.

[noober]

I assumed it was an Asian handicap.

[ngates815]

and i was just kidding pal, why so sensitive ?

You don't think I know you were kidding?

you dumbfukk.

[FindTheLock]

I like his holland 2nd division pick!! The over should win in that match up too!

[FourLengthsClear]

bullshit, yes William Hill cut my limits just this month but they are still worth to play there believe me,and now stop talking bullshit and care about your own business, ny limits are def not cut to cents OH and believe me most people wish they had my soccer skills, how old are you kid ??

I am 40, I live in the UK and have been betting for over 20 years and betting/trading 'professionally' for the last 8 years.

You posted a bet yesterday at odds which were 5% worse (-163 versus -131) because "I am low on funds at Pinnacle". Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? On the basis that you calculate -163 to be a +EV proposition, you would move heaven an earth to get your money (and a lot more of it) on at +131 in order to extract that value.

Your bets today show the same thing. There are much better odds available at Pinnacle, on Betfair and at SBOBet for the Moneylines and near market Asian Handicaps. Why are you not taking these odds and (if you must) using William Hill for the -2 and -3 bets? It makes NO SENSE if you are a serious bettor.

Bet365 are known as Bet$3.65 for a reason, William Hill is a recreational book as are ALL other European books.
They limit winners quickly and aggressively.

[FindTheLock]

roxy when you lay so many goals why don't you also play the 1H and 1H/FT lines? To win both halves pays +200 and to win 1H pays +125 on your favorite pick.

[FourLengthsClear]

When you bet the "spread" at 5dimes does it push if it is -1 and the team wins by 1?

If it is an Asian Handicap (two-way line) then, yes it is a push.

[FindTheLock]

I am 40, I live in the UK and have been betting for over 20 years and betting/trading 'professionally' for the last 8 years.

You posted a bet yesterday at odds which were 5% worse (-163 versus -131) because "I am low on funds at Pinnacle". Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? On the basis that you calculate -163 to be a +EV proposition, you would move heaven an earth to get your money (and a lot more of it) on at +131 in order to extract that value.

Your bets today show the same thing. There are much better odds available at Pinnacle, on Betfair and at SBOBet for the Moneylines and near market Asian Handicaps. Why are you not taking these markets and (if you must) using William Hill for the -2 and -3 bets? It makes NO SENSE if you are a serious bettor.

Bet365 are known as Bet$3.65 for a reason, William Hill is a recreational book as are ALL other European books.
They limit winners quickly and aggressively.

when you trade how much commission do they take out of your winnings? Is it reasonable compared to paying the vig?

[Tech N9ne]

you could use a win or two or three

[FourLengthsClear]

when you trade how much commission do they take out of your winnings? Is it reasonable compared to paying the vig?

It is very close between Pinnacle and Betfair usually, same with SBOBet (only for soccer though).

Other books have much higher vig so you will generally only find a 'bargain' if they post an off-market number early or if they are slow to move.

In terms of trading, more often than not I am trading without a lean so the objective is to lock in a profit regardless out the outcome. Unlike Matchbook, you pay commission on the net market winnings at Betfair so even if I lay 100k of bets on both sides I will only pay around 3% on the net amount 'scalped'.

[showtiime]

Wow, that ain't pretty.

[FindTheLock]

It is very close between Pinnacle and Betfair usually, same with SBOBet (only for soccer though).

Other books have much higher vig so you will generally only find a 'bargain' if they post an off-market number early or if they are slow to move.

I'm in the US so I am limited on my options. I think paying the fees to withdrawal on a trading exchange will put me back further than just eating the juice. Thanks for your input though, and GL...

[FindTheLock]

It is very close between Pinnacle and Betfair usually, same with SBOBet (only for soccer though).

Other books have much higher vig so you will generally only find a 'bargain' if they post an off-market number early or if they are slow to move.

In terms of trading, more often than not I am trading without a lean so the objective is to lock in a profit regardless out the outcome. Unlike Matchbook, you pay commission on the net market winnings at Betfair so even if I lay 100k of bets on both sides I will only pay around 3% on the net amount 'scalped'.

I was curious about that. Scalping is a great idea on a trading site, but I always wondered what kind of fee they tacked on to it. I figured it couldn't be that easy to scalp, but I guess it is...

[FourLengthsClear]

I was curious about that. Scalping is a great idea on a trading site, but I always wondered what kind of fee they tacked on to it. I figured it couldn't be that easy to scalp, but I guess it is...

It's not easy, it is a grind, mainly because so many people are doing/trying it now.

Things are always changing and what worked 3 years ago doesn't work now. It is a matter of always trying to be a step ahead with strategies and software.

[FindTheLock]

It's not easy, it is a grind, mainly because so many people are doing/trying it now.

Things are always changing and what worked 3 years ago doesn't work now. It is a matter of always trying to be a step ahead with strategies and software.

not to say it doesn't take time and work. What I meant was that the commission is easy on you. Only 3 percent of winnings regardless of the stake. I thought they would tax your stake so that both sides got hit with the 3 percent. Which would obviously be double the fee. I am just learning about this sports trading option. I prefer to avoid the vig as much as possible, but being in the US I have a lot of obstacles.

[Gee]

Lmao dirty lying roxybitch up to her nonsense again.

[FourLengthsClear]

not to say it doesn't take time and work. What I meant was that the commission is easy on you. Only 3 percent of winnings regardless of the stake. I thought they would tax your stake so that both sides got hit with the 3 percent. Which would obviously be double the fee. I am just learning about this sports trading option. I prefer to avoid the vig as much as possible, but being in the US I have a lot of obstacles.

That's the way Matchbook went and it hurts liquidity due to the lack or market makers/traders.

Betfair introduced what they call 'Premium Charge' in 2008 which acts like a tax on your weekly net winnings but there are ways of avoiding/minimising that.