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    Yankees LOCK OF THE YEAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddorts View Post
    Because they are betting on who they want to win instead of on who the smart play is. It's all emotional. Most of them are just groupies for their home teams. There is no such thing as a "lock," and anyone who "goes huge" on a single play is the true idiot. I've got Tigers +162.

    there's nothing here to really support the tigers



    Yanks have the better bullpen
    Yanks have the better offense
    Yanks have homefield game 5 advantage (which is HUGE)



    I think the people betting on detroit are just betting with their heart. How many times have the yanks lost a final game of a series at home?? not too often (except for that infamous red sox series but detroit is nowhere near as good as that sox team and they don't have the momentum in this series like boston did, all the momentum is on the yanks side)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    there's nothing here to really support the tigers Yanks have the better bullpen Yanks have the better offense Yanks have homefield game 5 advantage (which is HUGE) I think the people betting on detroit are just betting with their heart. How many times have the yanks lost a final game of a series at home?? not too often (except for that infamous red sox series but detroit is nowhere near as good as that sox team and they don't have the momentum in this series like boston did, all the momentum is on the yanks side)
    Vin Diesel beat the shit out that pussy Rock


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    Keep loading up on the Yankees and make that price juicier for me when I bet the Tigers later on. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    there's nothing here to really support the tigers


    Yanks have the better bullpen
    Yanks have the better offense
    Yanks have homefield game 5 advantage (which is HUGE)


    I think the people betting on detroit are just betting with their heart. How many times have the yanks lost a final game of a series at home?? not too often (except for that infamous red sox series but detroit is nowhere near as good as that sox team and they don't have the momentum in this series like boston did, all the momentum is on the yanks side)




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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Vin Diesel beat the shit out that pussy Rock


    just an effect for the movie


    the rock would lay the smack down all ALL over Vin Diesel's candy ass



    the only one who can come even close to beating up the Rock is that texas rattlesnake Stone Cold Steve Austin



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    yankees got this game. Nova isn't like the early regular season where hitters were getting to him 2nd and 3rd time around. Detriot pen can't handle the woken yankee bats. 7-3 final. yankees win

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    there's nothing here to really support the tigers



    Yanks have the better bullpen
    Yanks have the better offense
    Yanks have homefield game 5 advantage (which is HUGE)



    I think the people betting on detroit are just betting with their heart. How many times have the yanks lost a final game of a series at home?? not too often (except for that infamous red sox series but detroit is nowhere near as good as that sox team and they don't have the momentum in this series like boston did, all the momentum is on the yanks side)
    Actually, everything here points to the Tigers. The Yanks may have a better pen, but they're really going to need it. Nova is a big problem for them in this game. I expect him to be done by the 4th, and Fister will last a while. The Yanks' offense is not better by any stretch in this game. They just don't do as well against a good pitcher like Fister. Against a mediocre pitcher like Nova, though, the Tigers are going to light him up. As for homefield advantage, it really isn't huge in a game like this. Their stadium is always full and the fans loud, even during the most mundane of regular season games, so it won't be much different tonight. I'm giving them the same homefield advantage as I do during a regular season game. Granted, that advantage is significant, but it won't overcome the better bats of the Tigers. And if you care about subjective factors (I don't in my baseball handicapping), then the Tigers just want this more. This is shaping up to be a banner year for Detroit sports, and they want it bad. To beat the Yankees on their home turf in game 5 as such big underdogs would be huge for this Detroit team. But like I said, I don't factor in the subjective stuff. It's all about the cold, hard numbers for me.

    P.S. Betting with my heart? I had to work in Detroit for over 5 years. Emphasis on "had to." Can't stand the place, and don't care one bit about their teams. I just like money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddorts View Post
    Actually, everything here points to the Tigers. The Yanks may have a better pen, but they're really going to need it. Nova is a big problem for them in this game. I expect him to be done by the 4th, and Fister will last a while. The Yanks' offense is not better by any stretch in this game. They just don't do as well against a good pitcher like Fister. Against a mediocre pitcher like Nova, though, the Tigers are going to light him up. As for homefield advantage, it really isn't huge in a game like this. Their stadium is always full and the fans loud, even during the most mundane of regular season games, so it won't be much different tonight. I'm giving them the same homefield advantage as I do during a regular season game. Granted, that advantage is significant, but it won't overcome the better bats of the Tigers. And if you care about subjective factors (I don't in my baseball handicapping), then the Tigers just want this more. This is shaping up to be a banner year for Detroit sports, and they want it bad. To beat the Yankees on their home turf in game 5 as such big underdogs would be huge for this Detroit team. But like I said, I don't factor in the subjective stuff. It's all about the cold, hard numbers for me. P.S. Betting with my heart? I had to work in Detroit for over 5 years. Emphasis on "had to." Can't stand the place, and don't care one bit about their teams. I just like money.


    are you smoking crack??



    1)Nova is 13-0 his last 14 or 15 starts with a 3.22 ERA and he dominated detroit in the first game, you really think that all of a sudden he's gonna start pitching like a scrub??


    2)Detroit offense better than NY offense??? The yanks average 5.5 runs a game compared to 4.8 for Detroit. That's nearly a full run difference


    I would take the yanks bats at home any day of the week over detroit's bats on the road. You might also see robertson and rivera for 1-2 innings each in this game which would cut the game down to a 6 inning game

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Yankees LOCK OF THE YEAR


    Paco are you trying to jinx the Yankees? You made a thread saying the Yankees were a lock last game too....

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    There are certain rules in the game of baseball gentelmen. Teams from Detroit that play baseball do not beat the Yankees in game sevens at Yankee Stadium

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    Toddorts write up was comical. 6 inning game tonight. I love the 'Nova is due to get hit' reasoning. Y'all need to stop thinking so much. Yankees 6-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SASH View Post
    There are certain rules in the game of baseball gentelmen. Teams from Detroit that play baseball do not beat the Yankees in game sevens at Yankee Stadium


    this is game 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce0 View Post
    You have to admit he's telling everyone they're an idiot for not blindly taking his advice, then he can't even properly write a sentence.
    What's with these threads anyway? You're an idiot and no explanation? The guy took the time to declare this for some reason?

    "Your" an idiot if you blindly follow these posts.

    Its the fuc*kin Yankees in a game 7 at Yankee Stadium genius. Nothing more needs to be said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    this is game 5.
    Ya, I know its a game 5 Icehouse, thanks. For a more dramatic feel I went with calling it a game 7. For all intents and purposes its the same thing, is it not? If I called it an elimination game would that make you happy?

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    I agree that Yankees are the play here

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    Det will hang around and make a game of it then the famous ghosts of yankee lore will come out late in the game and the yanks will pull out a late win. Sure det has value. Line has gone right back to where it started. Books were just trying to keep people of new york. Those same "sharps" that got value with the early line can go ahead and get it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by SASH View Post
    Its the fuc*kin Yankees in a game 7 at Yankee Stadium genius. Nothing more needs to be said
    That means nothing

    Out of the last 14 ALDS game 5's, the away team has won 8 of them. Plus, that list includes the yanks losing at home. Kind of throws your whole "its the yankees" argument in the trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Det will hang around and make a game of it then the famous ghosts of yankee lore will come out late in the game and the yanks will pull out a late win. Sure det has value. Line has gone right back to where it started. Books were just trying to keep people of new york. Those same "sharps" that got value with the early line can go ahead and get it again
    The ghosts will get em....

    Tigers shouldn't even waste their time and show up huh

    This is not a slam dunk win....

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    Lta det is done. Only time is stopping that right now. Check back in around 11pm.

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    Lta just take det rrl +223 as well.

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    I have already placed a wager on the Yankees tonight. But with all these Yankees are a lock threads I'm starting to get nervous.


    I've seen it soo many times where everybody bets on the favorite and the Sportsbook ends up winning big and everybody is burried.

    Hope that is not the case tonight. I'm not even a Yankees fan but when the Yankees are still in the playoffs it just seems like the games become bigger and everybody is tuned in.


    If it ends up being the Tigers vs D-Backs in the world series ... i doubt many people outside of those cities will even watch the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Lta det is done. Only time is stopping that right now. Check back in around 11pm.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    I have already placed a wager on the Yankees tonight. But with all these Yankees are a lock threads I'm starting to get nervous.


    I've seen it soo many times where everybody bets on the favorite and the Sportsbook ends up winning big and everybody is burried.

    Hope that is not the case tonight. I'm not even a Yankees fan but when the Yankees are still in the playoffs it just seems like the games become bigger and everybody is tuned in.


    If it ends up being the Tigers vs D-Backs in the world series ... i doubt many people outside of those cities will even watch the game.


    Tonight the Sportsbook gets burried

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    Going Yanks for this game.

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    yankee no brainer... but not going to put money since everyone including their mother and grandmother will be on Yankees today.... just going to put $100 on Tigers and enjoy the game.

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    Small play,Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmabull117 View Post
    1)Nova is 13-0 his last 14 or 15 starts with a 3.22 ERA and he dominated detroit in the first game, you really think that all of a sudden he's gonna start pitching like a scrub??
    Win-loss records and ERAs mean little when taking such a small slice of their record. They mean even less if you're not paying attention to who the opposing teams were and who they were pitching in those games. You're looking at 14 games, and he's started 27 this season. How does it look over the season? Win-loss is pretty good, and even the ERA is ok. But take a look at his WHIP. The guy is in the bottom 47% of all starting pitchers this season on this key stat. Against a team like Detroit with such good offense, that's trouble. Fister, on the other hand, is in the top 15% of starting pitchers with his WHIP, and the top 13% for his ERA. Now, does that make him a great pitcher? No, but it does make him pretty good. The same can't be said for Nova. People pay too much attention to streaks. It doesn't pay over the long haul.

    2)Detroit offense better than NY offense??? The yanks average 5.5 runs a game compared to 4.8 for Detroit. That's nearly a full run difference
    Those are simplistic stats. You need to take a look at their average hits and runs against pitchers of a comparable quality. The Yanks only average about 4.4 runs against good pitching, but the Tigers average about 5.2 runs against an average guy like Nova. Now, the Yankees do have the homefield advantage, which closes that gap, but it doesn't make them the offensive favorite.

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    Can't see the yanks losing this at home, don't know if I'd put the house on it though....

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    Det has scored 14 runs in 4 games vs a team with no starting pitching. That's 3.5 runs pg. Meanwhile they have allowed 26. I'm not saying det can't win but yanks to me is a no brainer play. Sometimes u just gotta make the obvious play and trust me I bet more dogs than anyone.

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    I agree, Nova at home, the yanks at home in a game 5. at yankee stadium. I know det. is a good story, but without verlander on the mound, they are a different team. He gives them so much confidence. I think Yanks score a ton of runs and move on to the ALCS. I think they are in the W.S beat texas in 7. Been on the Yanks all year no reason to get off of them now.

    But if there is an 'all in' game, ever. It would be tomorrow Gallardo pitching at home vs. D-bags. Again I will repeat this stat. 28-3 when gallardo or greinke pitches at home this season. 28-3. That is some killa stats. Gallardo has been great his last three outtings, d-bags are a very aggresive team. Gallardo has a good change up, and curve ball, which he has been locating very well. If he does, Brewers got this. He can't hang his curves right down the middle like dumbass wolf did. I could of hit a grand slam off of that ball shit. He really disppointed me last night, he had the perfect stuff to do good vs the d-bags. He is a control, slow pitch pitcher. For an aggressive home-run hitter team you would think wolf should do well. He just looked lost couldn't control a thing.

    To me, this is a HUGE disapointment. ALL season long, macrum, wolf, greinke, and gallardo have all been great. They carried our team all year. And had a 3 era in the 2nd half of the season. Macrum at times before september looked like he was our best pitcher, then september comes and he just losses his shit. Wolf was really over-preforming, but i thought he could be a 4.3 ish guy we would win. Nope, sucked it up.
    Greinke has been great in the 2nd half, i think our best overall pitcher. He has a worse game then Gallardo kind of shocking esp. at home.
    Gallardo has been up and down all year, and in september he had up and downs. But the last three innings he has been great. He could reall make a name for himself for the brewers if he carreis us, he already signed a long term deal.

    This is the game, that will make these brewers players Legends in every milwaukee brewers fans hearts, or losers.

    D-bag fans probably couldn't care less what happens, seriously how do they even support a major league team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Lta det is done. Only time is stopping that right now. Check back in around 11pm.
    I will check back in and congratulate yanks backers if they win...i know you will do the same if the tigers win...i wonder if any other yankees backers will check in if detroit wins though?

    My point in all this is that people are overstating the yanks true probability of winning this game simply "because its the yankees." To me, that is silly because the tigers have a comparable offense and a MUCH better starting pitcher going tonight. I give the bullpen advantage to the yanks, but that may never come into play.

    Who do you think wins the first five?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Det has scored 14 runs in 4 games vs a team with no starting pitching. That's 3.5 runs pg. Meanwhile they have allowed 26. I'm not saying det can't win but yanks to me is a no brainer play. Sometimes u just gotta make the obvious play and trust me I bet more dogs than anyone.
    And yet the series is tied....However, what in the world does any of that have to do with tonights game?

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    this is one of the times the books get burried and the squares win. it happens deal with it

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    I think the tigers might win the first five. Yanks might throw the books a bone there.

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