[BettingWizard]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1W40LiNyd


Bush gets more blame by 20 pts



so yes, we can keep saying "blame bush"


Obama is a lock to win.

[DrStale]

Somebody at Fox News just got fired for including that statistic.

[jarvol]

This argument will go on for year and decades......however if Obama can't correct Bush's issues then why give him 4 more years? He extended the Bush tax cuts. He spent $800 billion on stimulus that was a joke. He has continued Bush's wars of aggression and this failed foreign policy of the last 60 years.

What exactly has he done any differently than Bush other pass an unconstitutional healthcare bill that puts even more burden on the economy?

[DwightShrute]

too many people don't understand enough about politics but still feel the need to give an opinion. Obama is 100X worse than Bush which is a fact. He double the debt in 2 years what Bush created in 8 years. Support failure all you want.

[BettingWizard]

This argument will go on for year and decades......however if Obama can't correct Bush's issues then why give him 4 more years? He extended the Bush tax cuts. He spent $800 billion on stimulus that was a joke. He has continued Bush's wars of aggression and this failed foreign policy of the last 60 years.

What exactly has he done any differently than Bush other pass an unconstitutional healthcare bill that puts even more burden on the economy?

The republicans don't have a candidate that the mainstream can trust will do any better. It's the weakest field of candidates in US history

[rsnnh12]

too many people don't understand enough about politics but still feel the need to give an opinion. Obama is 100X worse than Bush which is a fact. He double the debt in 2 years what Bush created in 8 years. Support failure all you want.

Government spending does not get us out of recessions or depressions on its own. Keynesians who support this are living in a fantasy world, where their 'perfect world' theories actually work... in real life not so much.

[BettingWizard]

At least the debt Obama has had was done here at home. What of Bush's spending do we have to show for anything? Nothing.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

This argument will go on for year and decades...

it's not really an argument; Bush is undoubtedly worse-and Bush being so bad led directly to Obama being elected.

the Keynesian stuff is as bad, if not worse, than being the 1st wartime president to ever cut taxes. 2 pointless wars that aren't over yet that we're still paying for, and will be for decades.

[jarvol]

it's not really an argument; Bush is undoubtedly worse-and Bush being so bad led directly to Obama being elected.

the Keynesian stuff is as bad, if not worse, than being the 1st wartime president to ever cut taxes. 2 pointless wars that aren't over yet that we're still paying for, and will be for decades.

Yet Senator Obama voted for the wars and their funding and after 2.5 years as President hasn't stopped them. Don't drink the koolaid. Bush and Obama's differences in actuality have been very, very little.

[rsnnh12]

At least the debt Obama has had was done here at home. What of Bush's spending do we have to show for anything? Nothing.

So our soldiers weren't being paid? Our defense and technology firms weren't being paid? Debt is debt, whether its through wars or welfare

[BettingWizard]

So our soldiers weren't being paid? Our defense and technology firms weren't being paid? Debt is debt, whether its through wars or welfare

Yeah he has debts that every president in history has had


let me know when trickle down economics works btw

[EmpireMaker]

Bush caused this disaster and Obama is having a hard time trying to figure out how to get us out of it.

[rsnnh12]

Yeah he has debts that every president in history has had


let me know when trickle down economics works btw

Except Obama has added more debt than any president in history. His own budget calls for no less than a $600 BILLION deficit per year over the next decade. Under Bush and the Republicans? Didn't even hit $450 billion, most years being around $300 billion. Yeah, Bush sure was worse than Obama

[RubberKettle]

Bush's spending will look like peanuts when we realize the costs of Obama Care.

Of course people still blame Bush. Lots of misinformation and slander out there on tv.
MSNBC talk hosts have to mention Bush 5x an hour, its in their contracts.

[DwightShrute]

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain

[crustyme]

Yet Senator Obama voted for the wars and their funding and after 2.5 years as President hasn't stopped them. Don't drink the koolaid. Bush and Obama's differences in actuality have been very, very little.

obama voted for the war in iraq? are you as sure about that as you are about everything else? clue: he wasnt even there at the time cause he wasnt even a us senator.



plus obama has halted the war in iraq by pulling out all the combat troops with complete pullout in dec. so obama has accomplished what bush couldnt in 7 years in just under 3.

as for afghanistan, he never opposed it as far as I know. in fact, his campaign promise was to send more troops there since they actually had connections to al qaeda and even flaunted it.

[KKoz9]

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

too many people don't understand enough about politics but still feel the need to give an opinion. Obama is 100X worse than Bush which is a fact. He double the debt in 2 years what Bush created in 8 years. Support failure all you want.

funny how your second statement completely and totally contradicts your first statement. so much so that it seems like sarcasm-if you actually knew anything, you'd never say any of the above. embarrassing, really.

Yet Senator Obama voted for the wars and their funding and after 2.5 years as President hasn't stopped them. Don't drink the koolaid. Bush and Obama's differences in actuality have been very, very little.

your last statement is quite accurate, your first, however...

[King Mayan]

These charts make retards feel happy.

[DwightShrute]

funny how your second statement completely and totally contradicts your first statement. so much so that it seems like sarcasm-if you actually knew anything, you'd never say any of the above. embarrassing, really.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

[KKoz9]

These charts make retards feel happy.

truth stings don't it

[King Mayan]

truth stings don't it

Yes, dopie.. You really got me there.

[crustyme]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1W40LiNyd


Bush gets more blame by 20 pts



so yes, we can keep saying "blame bush"


Obama is a lock to win.

seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.

but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...

1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!

not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.



2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.

2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.

3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.

gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.

4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.

5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.

6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.

7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.

8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.

9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.

10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!

so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml

[rsnnh12]

^^ hey crustyretard, please explain where it said the memo was "urgent". It was part of his daily briefing, that he and every other president has had every single day, no matter where they are... how is that "urgent"?

I've already explained the surveillance of NYC thing to you, but you just don't listen. The FBI had already investigated it, and found it was 2 tourists taking pictures. You're right though, how didn't retard Bush stop it

[DwightShrute]

seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.

but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...

1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!

not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.



2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.

2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.

3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.

gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.

4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.

5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.

6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.

7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.

8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.

9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.

10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!

so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml

obviously people will believe anything if it suites their political ideology. No sane person believes what you posted.

[KKoz9]

seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.

but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...

1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!

not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.



2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.

2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.

3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.

gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.

4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.

5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.

6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.

7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.

8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.

9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.

10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!

so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml

Everything besides that opinion poll (with which Obama is catching up quickly) is bullsh1t propaganda or merely opinions...could make a list of the same just as long for the current admin but what's the point?

Bush had his faults and made mistakes as do all Presidents, but why the hell are we even talking about him? Couldn't possibly be to deflect attention from the sorry a$$ position THIS administration has put us in? What else is new.

Whoever's fault current conditions are (which I believe is both), there can be no solution by blaming anyone.

Unfortunately, the Republicans don't have anyone impressive at this point to offer over the current talking head cheerleader.

[rkelly110]

It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be next year. Bush almost lost his 2nd term
bid. It was funny how it was the deciding state that his brother was gov in.

Really can't call it funny since he set the motion of the ocean.

[FuzzyDunlop]

Obama Goes All Out For Dirty Banker Deal

From one of the most liberal publications in this country. Ironic that Buffett invests about how much this bullshit fine will probably be into BkofAma today.

[jarvol]

obama voted for the war in iraq? are you as sure about that as you are about everything else? clue: he wasnt even there at the time cause he wasnt even a us senator.

He voted for the war's funding therefore he voted for the war and he is still leading the war-mongering machine 2.5 years into his presidency. It ain't that hard to figure out.

March 22, 2007
Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war.....

[crustyme]

He voted for the war's funding therefore he voted for the war and he is still leading the war-mongering machine 2.5 years into his presidency. It ain't that hard to figure out.

March 22, 2007
Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war.....

so supporting soldiers that are already there for the long haul and who would otherwise be wiped out without funding is supporting bush's decision to invade?



so i guess all the anti-war people that sent care packages, letters and even body armour to soldiers stationed in iraq, must also be war mongerers.

[jarvol]

seems like the neocons are the only ones surprised by this. it's difficult for them to admit bush was a colossal failure cause that would mean they are failures too since they put him in charge.

but bush is 100% at fault for our current crisis...

1. bush ignored 9/11 warnings....... a month prior to 9/11 he was sent an urgent presidential memo warning of an imminent attack. it specifically warned of hijackings by al qaeda members in the us, use of bombs and surveillance of buildings in nyc. so he was basically told where and how. so did bush act? nope, he went golfing and spent the next month on vacation! maybe it was a working vacation? nope, he didn't even discuss the threat with anyone!!!!!!

not surprising even the republican members of the 911 commission found that bush had the proverbial blue print to al qaeda's plans and did nothing.



2. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown......... bush passed the "american dream downpayment act of 2003" which practically gave homes to the poor with bad credit like candy on halloween. not surprising since his largest political donor at the time happened to be the largest subprime lender in the us. bush also removed anti-predatory lending laws which helped subprime lenders skirt any lending laws and prosecution.

2b. bush caused the subprime mortgage meltdown..... bush and sec deregulated banking laws in 2004 which allowed the top 5 us investment banks to put all their eggs in the subprime basket at the tune of $4 trillion in debt. they collapsed under this mountain of debt which caused the meltdown.

3. bush & cheney manipulated gas prices...... in 2002, bush & cheney purchased 50 million barrels of oil from private refineries which caused the price of barrel of oil to nearly double in price. then invaded iraq which put another 1.3 million barrels of oil per day offline.

gas prices reached $5/gal in some areas which cost an avg driver over $3000 in additional gas costs per year.

4. bush invaded iraq on fabricated lies..... the same lies cia warned bush was non-trustworthy and not to use in his speeches, a full year prior to his war speech!!!!!! bush used the devastation of 9/11 to invade iraq when he had told his biographer 3 years earlier that he intended to invade if he became president.

5. bush lost over 4 million jobs in 1 year..... from 2007-8.

6. us dollar lost 50% of its value under bush.

7. bush raided the social security funds in the tune of $1.3 trillion to pay for his war.

8. bush spied on his own citizens, trampling all over the us constitution.

9. bush & cheney orchestrated a $7 billion war contract to cheney's haliburton, using the law to bypass the bidding process and flat out lying and telling their competitors that no war was coming. even though they had been in negotiations with haliburton for a month!!!!!!!! a bidding process would have saved tax payers billions.

10. bush sat there like a coked up zombie when told america was under attack on 9/11. what a dumbfuk!

so is it any wonder bush received the lowest approval rating of any president in the last 70 years??????

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4728399.shtml

You need to study how the American government and capital markets works. A president can't raid Social Security funds, fund a war, deregulate the banking industry, etc.

I never heard anything about Obama being responsible for the doubling of gas prices during his time in office. Is this thru ignorance, hypocrisy, or has MSNBC not told you he is the cause?

I never hear "news" broadcasts sign off with xxxx days since Obama took office and he still hasn't stopped any of America's wars of aggression. Ignorance or hypocrisy?

I never hear about how Senator and President Obama twice extended the Patriot Act and the same Bush provisions of spying on his own citizens and trampling all over the US Constitution. Ignorance or hypocrisy?

[DwightShrute]

and you never will

[CarpeDime]

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

interesting theory

so if you think someone doesn't understand, and is impossible to give an explanation to, and someone else thinks that same thing about you, how do you know who is right?

[DwightShrute]

interesting theory

so if you think someone doesn't understand, and is impossible to give an explanation to, and someone else thinks that same thing about you, how do you know who is right?

not at all. Here's an example. If an Obama supporter says that Bush sucks because he spent way to much money while president ... but fails to mention Obama spent more already, in 1/4 of the time. Then my statement makes total sense. If you do not understand Carpe, no explanation is possible.

[CarpeDime]

Obama spent more already, in 1/4 of the time.

Is this true? How much did the govt spend in Bush's 8 years, and how much in Obama's 2.5?