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    nonetheless dirk will outplay him in the finals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    LOL. Kobe has the best midrange jump shot in the HISTORY of the NBA. Kobe doesn't even rely on his drive anymore. Guys don't even give him air space- but have to give lebron air space- everyone knows kobe's going to pull up from the elbow for a midrange fadaway and he still nails it. Do you even realize that? Don't be so naive.




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    Got one word for you....Jordan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mexes View Post
    nonetheless dirk will outplay him in the finals
    People really desperately want someone to be better than LeBron...

    He might have been a real dikk to Cleveland after they gave him NO teammates the entire time he was there, but he took that garbage team deep in the playoffs by himself.

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    Rose is great but of course Lebron is best overall player in NBA

    Not even a close second

    Heat would be nothing without him

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    Quote Originally Posted by icancount2one View Post
    People really desperately want someone to be better than LeBron...

    He might have been a real dikk to Cleveland after they gave him NO teammates the entire time he was there, but he took that garbage team deep in the playoffs by himself.
    and averaged 60 wins a year

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    he is. haters say he left ohio like a looser b/c he can't win by himself. oh REALLY? please tell me what did Kobe or MJ won by themselves? i would LOVE to see kobe or mj winning titles with mo williams, jamison, varejao as teammates. stop hating just to hate. you hate the fact that miami is living up to all that hype last summer. they have no PG, a mediocre coach, no bench whatsoever. There are 3 guys that do ALL the work. and don't worry, there is still A LOT of time left for LeBron to get several rings. What did you want? Him to stay in Cleveland to play with who? he stayed there for 7 years ffs. remember Kobe after 5 years as a Laker and 3 titles requested a trade? Yes, he has no rings (he will have one next month) but open your eyes and start think.

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    He does so much to make a team better unlike many players ever to play

    Is he best offensive player in league?? No

    He is best all around player in league though and by far

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    lebron james is the true king of crybabies....he stole that crown from derrick coleman

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    If Lebron plays bad in one game there are a lot of threads that he is overrated if he plays good then there are threads like this

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    just imagine if lebron would've had Roses shot at the end, that airball. the whole world would've said he is LeBrick again. But no one has great expectations from Rose. You can easily see his IQ: has no job with the 3's, but still he is like 26-95 in the playoffs this year.

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    no shit lebron is better than rose. rose got mvp because people have a lot of respect for his poise/maturity/humbleness.. and they gave it to rose because of the way the bulls really turned their season around this year.

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    No doubt Lebron and Dirk are playing like true MVP's

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    Sure.


    But D Rose was the best player on the best REGULAR SEASON team. Bulls wouldn't do shit without Rose.


    I'm Sure Lebron will be ok with not winning a league MVP when he takes down the finals MVP.

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    need to see what dirk does tonight

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    Well MVP is not the BEST player(although it can be), its the Most Valuable Player. So based on that I would put Dwight Howard as my MVP.

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    After watching Lebron play some amazing defense on Rose in the 4th quarter-- am revising my feelings about him upward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheThreeKings View Post
    It's not like I'm making this up.

    16-23 Feet: Lebron 45%, Kobe 38%
    3-point eFG %: Lebron 49.5%, Kobe 48.5%

    He's also become a more efficient post scorer than Kobe, Carmelo, and Joe Johnson.
    All right this wins the 2nd most retarded post of the day right behind the guy in this thread that claimed LeBron's jump shot was better than Kobe's.......Oh wait that was you too.
    Last edited by upscope; 05-25-11 at 09:11 AM.

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    Oh i see now....one look @ your avatar & I should have known??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    LOL. Kobe has the best midrange jump shot in the HISTORY of the NBA. Kobe doesn't even rely on his drive anymore. Guys don't even give him air space- but have to give lebron air space- everyone knows kobe's going to pull up from the elbow for a midrange fadaway and he still nails it. Do you even realize that? Don't be so naive.

    Crack is not good for you...Lebron and Kobe are both average shooters....Dirk, Larry Bird, Ray Allen, Reggie miller all put them to shame...kill yourself and make the world a better place

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    Yeah Lebron as a role player on a team of superstars is the best player in the NBA....give me a break.

    Lebron is barely a top 3 player in the NBA

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    Wow I love the fact that people hide behind these forums to acts like idiots. You have no ground to stand on by saying Lebron is not even a top 3 player...REALLY?

    Bottom line is Lebron is very good you cannot deny that. But to say he should be the MVP this year is ridiculous.

    Cont loving the HEAT if you do but if they move on the MAVS will be able to handle them

    We had a hell of a run this year BULLS
    TO BIG TO STRONG TO FAST TO GOOD

    BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by upscope View Post

    All right this wins the 2nd most retarded post of the day right behind the guy in this thread that claimed LeBron's jump shot was better than Kobe's.......Oh wait that was you too.
    Please explain, oh wise one, why my post was retarded? I posted the shooting percentages for each player form this year. Lebron shoots a higher percentage from 16-23 feet and from 3 point land. I don't know what else you want me to tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post

    LOL. Kobe has the best midrange jump shot in the HISTORY of the NBA. Kobe doesn't even rely on his drive anymore. Guys don't even give him air space- but have to give lebron air space- everyone knows kobe's going to pull up from the elbow for a midrange fadaway and he still nails it. Do you even realize that? Don't be so naive.
    First off, best in history is just exaggerating way too far.

    Second, I have no doubt Kobe would beat Lebron in a shooting contest in practice, but on the floor Lebron has dramatically improved his outside shot and now shoots a higher percentage than Kobe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheThreeKings View Post
    First off, best in history is just exaggerating way too far. Second, I have no doubt Kobe would beat Lebron in a shooting contest in practice, but on the floor Lebron has dramatically improved his outside shot and now shoots a higher percentage than Kobe.
    There's a guy named Dirk whose jump shot puts Lequit and the rapist to shame

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    There's also this guy named Nick Diaz who smoked 1 too many blunts and is a fukkin retard.

    ohh and theres a guy just as stupid with the same exact name posting on a forum.

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    Rose's game does have some limits

    James game does not

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDiaz209 View Post
    Yeah Lebron as a role player on a team of superstars is the best player in the NBA....give me a break.

    Lebron is barely a top 3 player in the NBA
    You just start watching hoops this year? What is your excuse when Lebron played for the Cavs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    There's also this guy named Nick Diaz who smoked 1 too many blunts and is a fukkin retard. ohh and theres a guy just as stupid with the same exact name posting on a forum.
    that retard is gonna be champ by the end of the year and...nice avatar...and I'm the retard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    You just start watching hoops this year? What is your excuse when Lebron played for the Cavs?
    Your post makes no sense at all...kill yourself

    You're implying that I have excuses in defense of Lebron when he wasn't able to win the championship? wow just wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDiaz209 View Post
    that retard is gonna be champ by the end of the year and...nice avatar...and I'm the retard?
    Quote Originally Posted by NickDiaz209 View Post
    Yeah Lebron as a role player on a team of superstars is the best player in the NBA....give me a break. Lebron is barely a top 3 player in the NBA

    Never said Diaz wasn't a good fighter. Yes I said he's a retard and Yes I said how convenient for you to have the same name on here, matches you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    Never said Diaz wasn't a good fighter. Yes I said he's a retard and Yes I said how convenient for you to have the same name on here, matches you well.
    '

    Don't be mad because guys like me and Diaz picked on you in high school...cry some more

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheThreeKings View Post
    Please explain, oh wise one, why my post was retarded? I posted the shooting percentages for each player form this year. Lebron shoots a higher percentage from 16-23 feet and from 3 point land. I don't know what else you want me to tell you.

    Ok wise one.....First things first.....You claimed LeBron had a better post game than Kobe & Carmelo?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. are you fuggin' joking here?? The next time you see LeBron post UP will be the first. He has absolutely ZERO post game whatsoever. LeBron has few weaknesses but post play may be his biggest. Kobe on the other hand post's UP regularly. It's been one of his strengths his entire career. Kobe is as effective @ posting as any guard in the league. LeBron has ZERO back to the basket game.

    As far as the 3 point shooting, well......Neither is exactly stellar here. LeBron has nudged Kobe over the last two seasons & in 04-05. Kobe has buried him every other year. Career wise kobe 33.9, LeBron 32.9. three point shooting is arguably equal. NBA 3-point shooting is mostly left for specialist anyhow & neither is a specialist in this department.

    Now for the mid range game. It is renowned that Kobe is regarded as one of the best mid range shooters in the history of the league. I challenge you to dig UP LeBron's career shooting % from 15 feet & beyond. You will find a number in the 30-32% range. Do the same for Kobe & report back. LeBron actually shoots a better % from 3 than he does from 15 & beyond.
    Furthermore, Kobe relies on tough contested jumpers where LeBron gets the benefit of teams laying off him baiting him to shoot his mid range jumper. For a guy that shoots 50% from the field yet is 2nd in the league in lay-UP'S & dunks what does that tell you about his jump shooting %?? One season does not make a career.

    LeBron does a lot of good things but post play & mid range game are possibly his biggest weaknesses. I will admit that leBron's jumper has improved w/ age but if you honestly believe LeBron is a better jump shooter than Kobe then you're kidding yourself. Like I said, one look @ your avatar makes me understand where you're coming from.

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    LeBron haters will never quit

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mar View Post
    LeBron haters will never quit
    Yeah we are so angry because he has so many rings

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    Rose was most certainly the MVP this season! But what some people fail to see is that the MVP does NOT mean you are the best player in the league. And if Rose is overrated, it's because all his fans put him there. They basically put him in the championship, fitted him for a ring, and declared him the Finals MVP. And this was before the season even ended. If it's one thing we have learned from Lebron since 2003, it's to never take credit for something you haven't earned. In Lebron's case it was the title of King, in Rose case it's that he can single-handily take the Bulls to win the championship, sweeping the Heat in the process.. Let him earn it first!!!

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